How does Dr. Wesley's Scarless Pilofocus work?

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  • StayThick
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 624

    Originally posted by hellouser
    If dermarolling and CB pull through, you may only need the hairline work
    True. But I don't have much faith in CB Hellouser.

    Nobody knows the correct vehicle and its just another experimental that I believe will also die down like RU.

    I was going to try it from Iron Dragon, but I don't even know how it will arrive (premade or powder form). I want a permanent fix and CB is way too unknown.

    Are you on CB currently? Would you buy it from ID?

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      Originally posted by Artista
      Your right Sausage,
      Dr Wesley will not withhold any training once it is all said and done.
      Hey man there is something that Id like to tell you about travel but not on this thread. If you have any way that I could contact you, let me know bro'
      For some reason your not allowed to pass on contact details on the forum. So I am not sure how we can get around that

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1063

        Originally posted by StayThick
        If I do Pilofocus, what from you gather and my current NW, would it be possible to have one large session under this technique or like standard FUE will I need to comeback for more grafts???
        To be honest I have no idea about how many grafts Pilofocus may be capable of doing in one session. I would like to think it is at least as much as current FUE, so around 3000-4000 grafts. If it's limited like Gho's technique, then I am pretty screwed.

        Artista knows more about it than me, he went to a conference about it. He can tell us small details......Hopefully he is able/aloud to tell us how many grafts are possible to transplant in one session?

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        • Westonci
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 251

          At my current hairloss level, Pilofocus+ CB-031 would cure my baldness.

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          • Sogeking
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 494

            Hey guys so the announcment is due in Octover?
            If this pulls through I am getting this done, and then I am travelling to Japan or South Korea to woo young beautiful Asian women. Well not treally I'm going to find one special .
            Man I would really like this to be something, but past experiences have thought me that life of MPB sufferers is a life of disappointments.

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            • sausage
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1063

              Originally posted by Sogeking
              Hey guys so the announcment is due in Octover?
              If this pulls through I am getting this done, and then I am travelling to Japan or South Korea to woo young beautiful Asian women. Well not treally I'm going to find one special .
              Man I would really like this to be something, but past experiences have thought me that life of MPB sufferers is a life of disappointments.
              Your off to get a Thai Bride?

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by sausage
                Your off to get a Thai Bride?
                Make sure its a woman.

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                • Artista
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2070

                  Originally posted by sausage
                  To be honest I have no idea about how many grafts Pilofocus may be capable of doing in one session. I would like to think it is at least as much as current FUE, so around 3000-4000 grafts. If it's limited like Gho's technique, then I am pretty screwed.

                  Artista knows more about it than me, he went to a conference about it. He can tell us small details......Hopefully he is able/aloud to tell us how many grafts are possible to transplant in one session?
                  My experience with Dr Wesley was specifically from his PowerPoint presentation. I didn't go to a conference Sausage. I have been in contact with him as well.
                  If you have heard Spencer Kobren's speak about his impressions of the same 'PowerPoint' presentation on his live show, I would say that I am in total agreement with Spencer.
                  I would suggest to everyone that you not speculate too much as yet.
                  Dr Wesley will be explaining it all at the conference in October.
                  I UNDERSTAND all of your frustrations brothers!
                  I do FEEL that Dr Wesley will offer something special to us all based on what I have witnessed.
                  (it would be great if the Finasteride did a great job to improve my scalp! Enough so that i wouldnt feel the need for surgery, but I will not speculate either-lol)

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                  • Sogeking
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 494

                    Originally posted by sausage
                    Your off to get a Thai Bride?
                    Nope. Japanese or South Korean. Please no follow up questions why not North Korean. Thats a stale joke .

                    @hellouser
                    Trust me if I get Japansese or South Korean bride it will definetly be a woman .

                    @Artista
                    I get it man. And honestly being a pessimist that I am, I am expecting a move forward but I am still expecting the problem with limited donor, and really small donor regen. I am sorry. But it is still a move forward. We'll see in October, till then good luck with your treatments. I am not taking Finasteride didn't want to risk it. But wish you all the luck with it.

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                    • Artista
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2070

                      Hi Sogeking I completely understand your point of view on this.
                      Regardless as to what degree it takes us all exactly, it certainly may be a positive move forward in hair restoration.

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                      • sausage
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1063

                        Yo Guys,

                        Dr Wesley got back to me:

                        "Thanks for your inquiry. While I do believe that piloscopy will ultimately enable patients to wear their hair even shorter than the current length that you have it, it will still be a few more months until we can even begin to use it for small sessions (50-100 grafts). I anticipate FDA clearance for the device at some point towards the end of this year. At that point, we will perform small sessions (50-100 grafts at most) to analyze the growth of transplanted hair and the possible regeneration in the donor area. During my initial trial in the fall of 2011 I was not able to look at donor regeneration. Since then, all work has been performed on cadaveric tissue. So, we haven't been able to gauge any donor regeneration. While there are other studies performed by other physicians that strongly suggest donor regeneration will work with this method, I'll only know when we have closely investigated it.

                        Finally, regarding price, I honestly haven't looked into that at all. I imagine that it will very closely reflect FUE prices currently charged. I can also tell you that any physician/surgeon who has demonstrated great competence in using this device will be able to perform surgical hair restoration with this method and device. My goal is not to restrict use of piloscopy to my practice, but rather allow patients to benefit from it in any doctor's practice they feel most comfortable with. "



                        My feelings about this:

                        1. Who are these other physicians he mentions, are they working for him, coincidently working on something similar or physicians who have tested something similar in the past? or maybe he means Dr Gho?.....the technique may be similar to his.


                        2. For me personally, seeing that I need to get something done asap, what worries me the most is the fact studies need to take place to see how much regeneration can be achieved, how long will that take? ......seeing as it supposedly takes 12 months to see the full result of a hair transplant, does that mean they will not know the regeneration possibilities until a year after these trials start?

                        Artista.....any idea how long you are going to be involved in the trial for?

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                        • Artista
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2070

                          Sausage, I do not know what the length of time will be for me..Ill be scheduled in a few months for the trial session but thats all I know right now. It was very nice of Dr Wesley to have sent you a response..thanks for sharing it.

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            Originally posted by Artista
                            Sausage, I do not know what the length of time will be for me..Ill be scheduled in a few months for the trial session but thats all I know right now. It was very nice of Dr Wesley to have sent you a response..thanks for sharing it.
                            How will Dr. Wesley speak on the regeneration aspect in October if the next trail session won't even be started yet?

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                            • sausage
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1063

                              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                              How will Dr. Wesley speak on the regeneration aspect in October if the next trail session won't even be started yet?
                              Based on what he wrote to me.......he obviously won't be announcing that Pilofocus can regenerate, unless they are planning on testing some people a few weeks before, and can somehow see regeneration within those few weeks, but that would be a bit of a rush......very unlikely.

                              I have a feeling we won't be told much more than we already know, I am guessing the only main thing we will learn is how Pilofocus works ie. How grafts are extracted.

                              It sounds like it won't be available until sometime next year. Depends on how long these trials for regeneration take or whether they are happy to start using Pilofocus earlier, and not wait for the regeneration results, so anyone who is not too fussed about regeneration can go and have scarless surgery.

                              From my point of view, I think it is pretty much certain that:

                              1. It is scarless.
                              2. The graft retention is good, better than FUT and current FUE.

                              Any other bonuses like surgery time, amount of grafts in a session, regeneration and yet to come to fruition.......

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                              • Joker
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 121

                                Hmmm.... Dr. Wesley's response suggests he hasn't looked into donor regeneration at all. Artista, are you sure you saw what you saw?

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