Baldness cure still ten years away:(

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  • GiveMeStrength
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    Originally posted by burtandernie
    Not sure where you got this but they said CB 03 01 might be the first viable treatment for women. It gets turned into a completely harmless substance and competes against androgens for the receptors it does not directly change androgen levels although by blocking receptors there might be more free androgens. Who knows for sure, but CB 03 01 might turned out to be a cure for keeping hair.
    So best possible case this helps with acne, hair loss for women, unwanted hair growth, and MPB all at once. I hope it turns out this well, but realistically it might not. Getting the right vehicle is going be a huge part of whether CB works well or not.
    So CB could work for me?
    I know my hair thinning is linked to mpb, and I really don't know what I can use to try to stop my hair loss since I'm a female. And I know I'll lose so much ground waiting for histogen/aderans/tsuji/or any type of new treatment to come to market.

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  • HairBane
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    Where did CB come from? Has anyone actually demonstrated its efficacy yet? Is there a company taking it through clinical trials?

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  • moore
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    Originally posted by BaldinLikeBaldwin
    the amount of psychological suffering it causes
    Don't make me think about it..

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  • john2399
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    Anyone know when CB 03 01 will be out on market?

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  • burtandernie
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    CB blocks DHT, so it won't work for women.



    He should be, I'm willing to bet he still is but keeping things very low-key. I can't see him finding a major breakthrough and calling it a day without having his findings implemented into the real world.
    Not sure where you got this but they said CB 03 01 might be the first viable treatment for women. It gets turned into a completely harmless substance and competes against androgens for the receptors it does not directly change androgen levels although by blocking receptors there might be more free androgens. Who knows for sure, but CB 03 01 might turned out to be a cure for keeping hair.
    So best possible case this helps with acne, hair loss for women, unwanted hair growth, and MPB all at once. I hope it turns out this well, but realistically it might not. Getting the right vehicle is going be a huge part of whether CB works well or not.

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  • baldozer
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Lauster's already cracked it.
    If that indeed turns out to be true, let us all vote this great man for the Nobel Prize!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by GiveMeStrength
    Yea, I agree. How far is Lauster with his research, I mean he would have to go through all phases and has he even started anything that anyone knows of?

    Btw, I really appreciate your replies.
    I remember finding a very old article about Lauster doing work on stem cells some 10 years ago, but he only announced creating artificial skin, follicles with grown hair back in December of 2010. The last that anyone has officially heard from his was around that time when he said clinical (or pre-clinical?) trial preparations were already underway for hair loss. Thats all anyone know though... except maybe Dr. Nigam as he was caught in a photograph with him not long ago.

    I've heard about Team Tokyo but don't care about their work, Lauster's already cracked it. I've tried contacting him but haven't got a response. We really need an update from him but I'm afraid news is going to be disappointing considering there hasnt been anything mentioned about him in over 2 years. And if the news would be good... well, hats off to him keeping it secret better than Apple did with their jesus phone.

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  • GiveMeStrength
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    CB blocks DHT, so it won't work for women.



    He should be, I'm willing to bet he still is but keeping things very low-key. I can't see him finding a major breakthrough and calling it a day without having his findings implemented into the real world.

    Yea, I agree. How far is Lauster with his research, I mean he would have to go through all phases and has he even started anything that anyone knows of?

    Btw, I really appreciate your replies.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by GiveMeStrength
    Is CB-03-01 something only for males? Can females use it also?
    CB blocks DHT, so it won't work for women.

    I heard about Dr. Lauster and was really interested. Is he still working on a cure?
    He should be, I'm willing to bet he still is but keeping things very low-key. I can't see him finding a major breakthrough and calling it a day without having his findings implemented into the real world.

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  • baldozer
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    I donno, I think women mind baldness more than being short. Lacking identity, youth and a nicely framed face is far worse than missing a few inches (not talking about penis either).
    You can still look quite good bald if you have the right face and headshape, maybe not as good as with hair, but not that bad either. Some facial hair can compensate to some extent in framing the face. For example, I don't look good clean shaven, but look quite good with a goatee. On the other hand, if you are 5 ft 4, its really bad.

    The problem is that we men think beauty in terms of woman, and a bald woman is certainly not a very beautiful one, but for women, a bald head may not be that big of a turn off if it suits you. If it was, then we would all be sitting here happy with full heads of hair, as the baldness gene would have been long gone!

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  • GiveMeStrength
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Should be soon, I can't imagine them not giving a presentation after completing Phase II and moving into the final stage. When that is specifically, I don't know.




    Same for me, which is why I'm excited about using CB-03-01.



    Dr. Roland Lauster from Berlin, Germany already grew skin, a follicle and hair in a petri dish from stem cells. Dude already has the cure, there needs to be a strong push for his findings to come to the market. Whats also interesting is that his work was based on finding an alternative to animal testing, and since he did, the EU banned animal testing just recently. Which brings up the question; is Lauster's work now going to be implemented in labs for testing cosmetics, and if so, where is the cure for hair loss sufferers and why are we seen as irrelevant?

    Is CB-03-01 something only for males? Can females use it also?

    I heard about Dr. Lauster and was really interested. Is he still working on a cure? I heard people tried to contact him, but to no avail. Apparently, hair loss sufferers always have to take the back seat, even to things like wrinkles!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by baldozer
    My point was that baldness does not signal weakness or lack of strength. Many young men go bald. Its not like wrinkles, which only set in at old age. Secondly, the baldness gene has had a high survival rate, otherwise why so many men are bald/balding? On the other hand the shortness gene is slowly phased out with each passing generation, as men are getting taller. In other words, women don't mind baldness as much as they mind shortness.

    In animal world, males fight with each other to get access of the females, and you would notice that the bigger, more powerful male always win. I mean the females do not complain afterwards that the bigger or more powerful male is bald or something like that. They just mate with him.
    I donno, I think women mind baldness more than being short. Lacking identity, youth and a nicely framed face is far worse than missing a few inches (not talking about penis either).

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by GiveMeStrength
    Initially i was more interested in aderans because i felt it would give great density since that's what they were aiming for, but the recent talk about aderans has somewhat turned me away from them, (the whole 60% respond rate). Do you know if they will be giving an update anytime soon for all the phase II trials they conducted?
    Should be soon, I can't imagine them not giving a presentation after completing Phase II and moving into the final stage. When that is specifically, I don't know.


    I was scared of histogen because they were using all sorts of growth factors and chemicals, and it always takes years for tumors to develop and show up.
    But I'm getting more and more desperate with everyday so now i just ignore the growth factor part.
    Same for me, which is why I'm excited about using CB-03-01.

    Team tokyo is the one i'm really interested in, but they are soo far off, that i feel like it's waste of energy to think about them at the moment.

    Any treatment would be welcoming though.
    Dr. Roland Lauster from Berlin, Germany already grew skin, a follicle and hair in a petri dish from stem cells. Dude already has the cure, there needs to be a strong push for his findings to come to the market. Whats also interesting is that his work was based on finding an alternative to animal testing, and since he did, the EU banned animal testing just recently. Which brings up the question; is Lauster's work now going to be implemented in labs for testing cosmetics, and if so, where is the cure for hair loss sufferers and why are we seen as irrelevant?

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  • baldozer
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Correction:

    a 6ft 5, 250lb ripped, tanned AND GOOD LOOKING guy....

    The example is pretty poor. Thats like saying Roseanne Barr looks better than a bald woman.... yeah, I donno about that.
    My point was that baldness does not signal weakness or lack of strength. Many young men go bald. Its not like wrinkles, which only set in at old age. Secondly, the baldness gene has had a high survival rate, otherwise why so many men are bald/balding? On the other hand the shortness gene is slowly phased out with each passing generation, as men are getting taller. In other words, women don't mind baldness as much as they mind shortness.

    In animal world, males fight with each other to get access of the females, and you would notice that the bigger, more powerful male always win. I mean the females do not complain afterwards that the bigger or more powerful male is bald or something like that. They just mate with him.

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  • baldozer
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    No clue, but it doesnt look like it will. I have a gut feeling its going to work best for thinning hair, where vellus hair is still present and is turned into terminal.
    If that is indeed the case, then hair multiplication/cloning is the only hope for me and my bald brethrens! All my prayers are with you, Gho and Nigam !

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