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  • rbrown
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 61

    #91
    Not important news, but FDA approved iGrow. It costs $695.

    The machine that employs red light technology to promote hair growth in males was given the green light by the FDA last week for over the counter sales. iGrow Hair Growth System is intended for men…

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    • HairIsLife
      Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 96

      #92
      Originally posted by rbrown
      Not important news, but FDA approved iGrow. It costs $695.
      Now that's 2014 technology at it's finest. You see folks, you got nothing to worry about. Help is on the way !

      Speaking of progress, I found a couple of inspirational threads for you folks to feast your eyes on:

      2010 https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3922

      Originally posted by BoSox
      I've researched hair cloning and for the most part I am disappointed. Many experts believe cloning hair will never come in the near future... why is there such diversity on HM... they have had good results with clinical trails.
      Originally posted by Dutch_Dude
      Aderans has been making quite a lot of improvements. I've read that experts believe that HM will be available before 2018. Histogen is doing also pretty well, and we have trx2 coming up, and that Acell thing that I don't get.
      2011 https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=4527

      Originally posted by chewytorch
      Would they ever release a true CURE for MPB. People say "It won't happen because then there would be no market." Is there any truth to that. Makes me feel so damn helpless.
      Originally posted by BoSox
      Hair cloning (also known as Hair Multiplication, HM) will be the ultimate cure to MPB. I know people are pessimistic about this being released in the near future, but they are just use to promises that fail to deliver.


      The earliest release of HM will be sometime in 2012, by 2015 HM will be wide spread as the #1 treatment for MPB. I just hope what they say is true about the cost being less than a traditional Hair Transplant.

      Better start saving your money (:

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      • baldozer
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 752

        #93
        Originally posted by HairIsLife
        Now that's 2014 technology at it's finest. You see folks, you got nothing to worry about. Help is on the way !

        Speaking of progress, I found a couple of inspirational threads for you folks to feast your eyes on:
        The first successful Hair cloning experiment was done in 1970 on mices! After 44 years, we still have no solution for humans. Either the big pharmaceutical companies selling hair loss medications are bribing these research companies out, or the medical researchers are too incompetent. Screw you capitalism!

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #94
          Originally posted by baldozer
          The first successful Hair cloning experiment was done in 1970 on mices! After 44 years, we still have no solution for humans. Either the big pharmaceutical companies selling hair loss medications are bribing these research companies out, or the medical researchers are too incompetent. Screw you capitalism!
          There's a third possibility:

          Nobody cares enough to cure baldness.

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          • 2young2bald
            Junior Member
            • May 2014
            • 28

            #95
            Originally posted by hellouser
            There's a third possibility:

            Nobody cares enough to cure baldness.
            The one who will find a cure for baldness will probably become a BILLIONAIRE! Aaand they still don't care.

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            • hairbackpls
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 21

              #96
              Originally posted by 2young2bald
              The one who will find a cure for baldness will probably become a BILLIONAIRE! Aaand they still don't care.
              Yup.. ****ing gold mine just waiting there, but no one cares.
              How awesome it would be to accidentally find a Cure. So much fame and money :')

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #97
                Originally posted by hairbackpls
                Yup.. ****ing gold mine just waiting there, but no one cares.
                How awesome it would be to accidentally find a Cure. So much fame and money :')
                If it's not incompetence on the part of researchers and potential researchers, it's definitely stupidity;

                'Yah I suppose we could get a treatment for hair loss.... let's make one for acne instead'. <--- Cosmo Pharmaceuticals.

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                • HairIsLife
                  Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 96

                  #98
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  'Yah I suppose we could get a treatment for hair loss.... let's make one for acne instead'. <--- Cosmo Pharmaceuticals.
                  Kind of reminds me of RepliCel with their chronic tendinosis treatment. Although they haven't made it a priority, I's weird that they would treat something that affects 1/2 guys by age 50 and then have another treatment for something that I've never even heard of before, which affects like 2 out of every 1000. Whatever, as long as they don't make it a priority..

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    #99
                    Originally posted by HairIsLife
                    Kind of reminds me of RepliCel with their chronic tendinosis treatment. Although they haven't made it a priority, I's weird that they would treat something that affects 1/2 guys by age 50 and then have another treatment for something that I've never even heard of before, which affects like 2 out of every 1000. Whatever, as long as they don't make it a priority..
                    Unlike the idiots at Cosmo Pharmaceuticals, Replicel is definitely not being sluggish with their AGA treatment... hell, they got Shiseido to run their own trials, Phase II starting within the next couple of months. It took Aderans like a decade to get to that point. You HAVE to give Replicel some serious credit here.

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                    • HairIsLife
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 96

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      Unlike the idiots at Cosmo Pharmaceuticals, Replicel is definitely not being sluggish with their AGA treatment... hell, they got Shiseido to run their own trials, Phase II starting within the next couple of months. It took Aderans like a decade to get to that point. You HAVE to give Replicel some serious credit here.
                      Yes sir, they are definitely in a good position to make things happen, I really hope their results come through, because even with all the fast tracking and support from Shiseido, if the technology isn't their, we're still screwed. I'm honestly surprised Shiseido decided to do a deal with RepliCel considering their weak results, but as David Hall says, it was just for safety. I'm really crossing my fingers for them, they're really all that we have going for us right now.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by HairIsLife
                        Yes sir, they are definitely in a good position to make things happen, I really hope their results come through, because even with all the fast tracking and support from Shiseido, if the technology isn't their, we're still screwed. I'm honestly surprised Shiseido decided to do a deal with RepliCel considering their weak results, but as David Hall says, it was just for safety. I'm really crossing my fingers for them, they're really all that we have going for us right now.
                        You have to be skeptical though. Consider this: If a fully grown, in tact follicle that grows terminal hair takes UP TO 9 months (or more sometimes) for everything to jive well from a regular hair transplant, why are we assuming things would move quicker from cells where they essentially restore the follicles? Babies don't get full mane's of hair immediately... it takes time, the follicles develop slowly. But even with hair transplants, you don't see full results until almost a year in. I raised this question a long time ago that perhaps it takes quite a while for the follicles to form and existing ones to restore from the injections.

                        Who knows though... we're not in the lab with actual results.... god, I'd love to be a fly on the wall.

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                        • burtandernie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1563

                          Its funny because there are how many pages of products or new stories in this cutting edge forum? I mean with all the products out you would think its already cured or atleast preventable but its just proof how hard it really is to treat problems like this

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                          • SolarPowered Man
                            Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 56

                            Just for the record, my second came out with a full mane of hair.
                            Must of been all the fin beforehand. Lol.

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                            • deuce
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 209

                              Hellouser,

                              Hey man I am with you 100% that doctors play a big role in this still being a modern day problem. But I think what has done more damage to the progress of a cure is the way we as bald/balding men have accepted this crippling condition. I am sure all men who are bald or who have went bald were insecure about it at some point, but society teaches us not to care about it. Caring about baldness makes you look weak. Extremely weak or at least that is how people think. It happens to so many people and is so common that men did not want to look like they cared about it or make a fuss about it.

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                              • HairIsLife
                                Member
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 96

                                Why don't all these researchers stop f*cking around and start helping each other out ? Do you know what I see ? Greed ! No one is willing to say "hey, we might be able to solve the problem if we combine all of our knowledge." No, cause that might work, here's what we have: We have a group in Germany, a group in Japan, a group in the U.S and a group in the U.K. There's no partnership there whatsoever. The only group that's somewhat leading the way is the only one that has a small partnership (Jahoda and Christiano). They work TOGETHER to solve a problem, Duh, the way it should be ! RepliCel is now TWICE as likely to be successful because of their PARTNERSHIP with Shiseido.

                                Why the hell can't these guys just get together, preferably in Japan, and get this done within a year or two. Nothing gets done when everyone is greedy and keeping half the puzzle to themselves. This is going to take 10x as long as it would have if they just combined their efforts.

                                Why couldn't Shiseido (or anyone) give Histogen the funding to get them to the next trial ? They have a state of the art treatment with stellar results, but of course, like everything else, it gets shelved. Thanks for teasing us Gail. I'm sure you're on to more important things now anyway.

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