S-equol again

[PinotQ]

Hey guys,

I've been taking 54mg equol daily for about a month now and I would like to share what I have experienced so far.

Observation List
1. Scalp itch was reduced significantly
2. Soreness/pimples on my scalp disappeared within a few days
3. Slight tingling sensation on testicle every now and then (no other sides, everything else is functioning just fine)
4. Noticed significant increase in hair shedding about 2 weeks in (from 7 hairs in bathroom sink to 100+)

I have taken .25mg propecia once at the start of the year and I was impacted by massive sides within 8 hours so I think I'm hypersensitive to that stuff and didn't fully recover until 6 weeks after. What's interesting with equol is that I haven't had any sides from it. My hair is a lot thinner due to the ongoing hair shed.

Hopefully other people find this useful. I'll post updates if I notice any changes.

Please keep us posted. I think the shedding is a great sign and I find this very useful. I will do the same. Are you taking your equol 2 or 3 times per day?

[PinotQ]

Hi PinotQ,
Have you noticed any effect from taking Equol? I noticed that you have been taking it for more than 6 months since you started in February this year.

I just passed the 4 month mark....not 6. I cannot confirm one way or the other just yet. As I mentioned above, the doctor I consult with says that shedding should subside in 3 to 4 months and that any thickening would likely not be visible for 6 to 9 months. My hair is thinner now than when I started but that could either be b/c it is working or b/c it is not working. I have not experienced any noticeable side effects.

[NeedHairASAP]

Hey guys,


Observation List
3. Slight tingling sensation on testicle every now and then (no other sides, everything else is functioning just fine)
4. Noticed significant increase in hair shedding about 2 weeks in (from 7 hairs in bathroom sink to 100+)

same here on 3 and 4.. and I only take one pill in am and one at night. Possible some effects on the prostate too

[ItchForTheCure]

Hey guys,

I've been taking 54mg equol daily for about a month now and I would like to share what I have experienced so far.

Observation List
1. Scalp itch was reduced significantly
2. Soreness/pimples on my scalp disappeared within a few days
3. Slight tingling sensation on testicle every now and then (no other sides, everything else is functioning just fine)
4. Noticed significant increase in hair shedding about 2 weeks in (from 7 hairs in bathroom sink to 100+)

I have taken .25mg propecia once at the start of the year and I was impacted by massive sides within 8 hours so I think I'm hypersensitive to that stuff and didn't fully recover until 6 weeks after. What's interesting with equol is that I haven't had any sides from it. My hair is a lot thinner due to the ongoing hair shed.

Hopefully other people find this useful. I'll post updates if I notice any changes.

[Artista]

Great info' PinotQ - thanks my friend!

[PinotQ]

Thanks for the info PinotQ. Unfortunately, I won't have an option to test for serum equol or free DHT with the tests that I'm using (LifeExtension, ~$130/each), but the results should be valid. Finasteride users usually notice a total DHT difference between tests, so I expect the same of equol.

I've got the second test purchased, so I'll be scheduling an appoint for either this coming Friday or the next. Results should be in a week following the blood draw date. I'll update once I've taken the blood draw.

Great! After the issue was raised about free vs. total DHT, I have been looking into it a little more and decided I may as well do some testing myself. I could not find anyone that tested for serum equol but I tested yesterday for Free DHT (not cheap) and Free and Total Testosterone and SHBG. I should have the results early this week and will update once I know.

[Adaku]

Thanks for the info PinotQ. Unfortunately, I won't have an option to test for serum equol or free DHT with the tests that I'm using (LifeExtension, ~$130/each), but the results should be valid. Finasteride users usually notice a total DHT difference between tests, so I expect the same of equol.

I've got the second test purchased, so I'll be scheduling an appoint for either this coming Friday or the next. Results should be in a week following the blood draw date. I'll update once I've taken the blood draw.

[balding1983]

Hi PinotQ,
Have you noticed any effect from taking Equol? I noticed that you have been taking it for more than 6 months since you started in February this year.

[PinotQ]

FYI DHT levels: http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/...erone_Free.pdf

Also, here is a place that tests for free DHT as opposed to total DHT: http://www.anylabtestnow.com/tests/d...rone-dht-test/

[PinotQ]

First results are back (no equol): DHT 44 ng/dL. That looks like it's in the normal range, but I can't get anything about specifics for age. I'm in my early 20s. Does anyone have a reference range?

I'll be taking the next test within a couple of weeks.

FYI DHT levels: http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/...erone_Free.pdf

[bananana]

Hi Guys (again).
I'll be ordering 100+ grams of equol shortly. Chinese company sent me a scan of Certificate of Analysis showing all green lights,
but of course - I need to run it by some independent lab (hard to find, unfortunately).

Another question - how do you take the powder? They say it's safe mixing it with water and drinking, but is there a more efficient way?
How do I know what amount will be absorbed by the body?
Or should I just take a shitload of it (like 0.5-1 grams daily) and hope at least 0.01 pushes through?

Your opinions?

Tnx

[PinotQ]

FYI The doctor I consult with on hairloss who has 20 years of experience says that if equol works it will likely follow a timeline similar to finesteride. He says that in his experience, most patients notice a cessation in shedding by 3-4 months. Any thickening would show up by 6-9 months. He says that areas with more hair will likely show thinning as hairs that are being affected by DHT will shed. So you will likely take a step back in cosmetic appearance first. He also said that very thin areas where you can see thru to the scalp will likely show improvement first b/c the newer thicker hairs will not be hidden as much by surrounding hair.

[PinotQ]

First results are back (no equol): DHT 44 ng/dL. That looks like it's in the normal range, but I can't get anything about specifics for age. I'm in my early 20s. Does anyone have a reference range?

I'll be taking the next test within a couple of weeks.

I found this link stating that the normal male serum range of dht is between 29 and 90 ng/dl.....but it is not age specific. So you are below the average. http://www.gdx.net/core/sample-repor...ple-Report.pdf

I wonder when you take your follow up test if there is an option to test for serum levels of equol?

[balding1983]

Getting a hold of 'Equolibrium' in Europe will be a problem.

[cthulhu2]

First results are back (in lo equol): DHT 44 ng/dL. That llike it's in the normal range, but I can't get anything about specifics for age. I'm in my early 20s. Does anyone have a reference range?

I'll be taking the next test within a couple of weeks.

I recall reading that dht levels are higher in our 20's, which is why finasteride is typically more effective for ppl in their late thirties and early 40's. I too couldnt find age groups and average dht levels unfortunately.