S-equol again

[thechamp]

Susan told me she can formulate anything, but all depends how legal the drugs and compounds are? As she won't formulate illegal compounds she's very by the book and strict.

http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/pr...capsules/3542/ It's natural can you ask her for us ?

[Jazz1]

Why don't we get the chemist that user jazz knows Tracy maybe she can mix some up for us ?

Susan told me she can formulate anything, but all depends how legal the drugs and compounds are? As she won't formulate illegal compounds she's very by the book and strict.

[thechamp]

Not that it's my responsibility but I did suggest a process in a post on 10/31 where I said that I looked up all of the filler ingredients in Nature's Sunshine and none of them are soluble in alcohol. I'm not a chemist but that would lead me to believe that if you dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol, you would be left with filler at the bottom and a solution that contains a certain % of equol. Also, I believe my % solution calculations were wrong in that post. According to the % solution calculator here: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html you would need to dissolve 443.6025 mg of equol in 1 oz of alcohol to obtain a 1.5% alcohol solution of equol. That's about 1 and 1/4 bottles of equol.

Why don't we get the chemist that user jazz knows Tracy maybe she can mix some up for us ?

[PinotQ]

Dude! why didn't you mention this. I just got my vesapro and don't feel like going all chemist with this

Not that it's my responsibility but I did suggest a process in a post on 10/31 where I said that I looked up all of the filler ingredients in Nature's Sunshine and none of them are soluble in alcohol. I'm not a chemist but that would lead me to believe that if you dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol, you would be left with filler at the bottom and a solution that contains a certain % of equol. Also, I believe my % solution calculations were wrong in that post. According to the % solution calculator here: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html you would need to dissolve 443.6025 mg of equol in 1 oz of alcohol to obtain a 1.5% alcohol solution of equol. That's about 1 and 1/4 bottles of equol.

[thechamp]

So we can't just drop a few pills in too minoxdill ??

[NeedHairASAP]

I think one thing everyone should be aware of if they want to make a topical is that the powder inside Nature's Sunshine capsules is substantially filler. You would need to open each capsule and dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol. Then you would need to filter the alcohol to remove the sediment. I suppose you could buy equol in quantity but unless you buy in huge bulk it is outrageously expensive. You could probably buy it in China at a cheap cost but I wouldn't trust anything coming from there.

Dude! why didn't you mention this. I just got my vesapro and don't feel like going all chemist with this

[PinotQ]

Can I add it to minoxdil to make a topical ??

I think one thing everyone should be aware of if they want to make a topical is that the powder inside Nature's Sunshine capsules is substantially filler. You would need to open each capsule and dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol. Then you would need to filter the alcohol to remove the sediment. I suppose you could buy equol in quantity but unless you buy in huge bulk it is outrageously expensive. You could probably buy it in China at a cheap cost but I wouldn't trust anything coming from there.

[thechamp]

Can I add it to minoxdil to make a topical ??

[PinotQ]

I got versapro

how many s equol pills should i put in 100mg of versapro?

I'mgoing to add zinc and ginger root too

This may help you out: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html Go to the bottom and there is a calculator to figure percentage concentrations. I am a little confused about the solubility of equol. If you go here: https://www.caymanchem.com/pdfs/10010173.pdf it says that equol is soluble at 15mg/ml. Here: https://www.lclabs.com/PRODFILE/D-F/E-5880.html at 200mg/ml Here: http://www.selleckchem.com/products/equol.html at 48mg/ml

So I'm not sure what the solubility is.....although since the research article says they used a 1.2% in DMSO, solubilty may be closer to the 15mg/ml.

[bananana]

are you using it as a topical?

Nope, orally.

[Adaku]

Where did you get VersaPro / what led to the decision use it? I haven't looked into it much.

I may try this as well, after I read the paper that pinotq posted.

[NeedHairASAP]

I got versapro

how many s equol pills should i put in 100mg of versapro?

I'mgoing to add zinc and ginger root too

[NeedHairASAP]

What about aloe vera as a vehicle?


Aloe vera, as a biological vehicle for hydrocortisone 21-acetate, was tested topically and systemically against acute inflammation. Systemically, the combination of A. vera and hydrocortisone produced a maximum 88.1% inhibition of edema. Polymorphonuclear leukocyte infiltration was reduced 91.1%. The topical inhibition of edema peaked at 97%. The possibility that A. vera has significant potential as a biologically active vehicle for steroids is discussed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1993971

[NeedHairASAP]

just one thing - I might be crazy, but I think I'm seeing less grey hair since I've started taking S-equol, could it be related?

are you using it as a topical?

[bananana]

just one thing - I might be crazy, but I think I'm seeing less grey hair since I've started taking S-equol, could it be related?