S-equol again

[FearTheLoss]

Says who? When has it been tested and failed?

exactly my point...if it were anything serious it would have been tested...researchers would be interested in this more than topical finasteride and other preventative treatments.

[ryan555]

Yeah guys, sorry to bust your bubble, as I would love this to work too..but it doesn't

Says who? When has it been tested and failed?

[FearTheLoss]

Yeah guys, sorry to bust your bubble, as I would love this to work too..but it doesn't

[yeahyeahyeah]

Valid point, BUT..

As far as I know, Nature Made is the first legit manufacturer of S Equol. As mentioned earlier, there were a couple shady outfits, but nothing professional. And that's not even including those supplements that tried to get your body to produce S Equol. Apparently the reason it has not been commercialized until now is that it is very expensive to manufacture.

This is the first time a pure S Equol supplement will be available from a reputable source. So as you say about testing for hair loss.. Here's our chance!!

There is solid science behind it's DHT neutralizing effects. And i'm talking directly, not through enzymatic suppression. Combine this with the fact that it is an anti inflammatory and can be applied topically and we potentially have the latest and greatest weapon.

IMO while it's nice to dream about treatments that may come out in the next 5 years, there's not much I can do about them except wait. What I can do is research and test what we have available NOW, who knows right? And S Equol very soon will be NOW. I believe the forums are perfect for things like this.

Here we go again...

S equol has been tried and tested.

[FearTheLoss]

Valid point, BUT..

As far as I know, Nature Made is the first legit manufacturer of S Equol. As mentioned earlier, there were a couple shady outfits, but nothing professional. And that's not even including those supplements that tried to get your body to produce S Equol. Apparently the reason it has not been commercialized until now is that it is very expensive to manufacture.

This is the first time a pure S Equol supplement will be available from a reputable source. So as you say about testing for hair loss.. Here's our chance!!

There is solid science behind it's DHT neutralizing effects. And i'm talking directly, not through enzymatic suppression. Combine this with the fact that it is an anti inflammatory and can be applied topically and we potentially have the latest and greatest weapon.

IMO while it's nice to dream about treatments that may come out in the next 5 years, there's not much I can do about them except wait. What I can do is research and test what we have available NOW, who knows right? And S Equol very soon will be NOW. I believe the forums are perfect for things like this.

It would be interesting to get a transplant doctor or dermatologist's perspective on this..

[vred]

Guys, I really feel like you are getting too hyped up over this supplement. I think if it were to be anything of meaning, it would have been tested for hair loss

and there would be doctors, and Spence, talking about it.

Valid point, BUT..

As far as I know, Nature Made is the first legit manufacturer of S Equol. As mentioned earlier, there were a couple shady outfits, but nothing professional. And that's not even including those supplements that tried to get your body to produce S Equol. Apparently the reason it has not been commercialized until now is that it is very expensive to manufacture.

This is the first time a pure S Equol supplement will be available from a reputable source. So as you say about testing for hair loss.. Here's our chance!!

There is solid science behind it's DHT neutralizing effects. And i'm talking directly, not through enzymatic suppression. Combine this with the fact that it is an anti inflammatory and can be applied topically and we potentially have the latest and greatest weapon.

IMO while it's nice to dream about treatments that may come out in the next 5 years, there's not much I can do about them except wait. What I can do is research and test what we have available NOW, who knows right? And S Equol very soon will be NOW. I believe the forums are perfect for things like this.

[FearTheLoss]

Guys, I really feel like you are getting too hyped up over this supplement. I think if it were to be anything of meaning, it would have been tested for hair loss and there would be doctors, and Spence, talking about it.

[Gjm127]

I believe equol would be sold as a supplement and not as a pharmaceutical product, so it would not require FDA clearance. Some companies have already been selling the stuff in the past, but they were all small outfits and who knows if it was legit or not.

suddenly I'm less excited..

[ryan555]

I don't get it, what phase are they in as of today?
We haven't heard anything concerning efficacy, safety, or wtv (like we do with Histogen, Aderans, etc...)

I believe equol would be sold as a supplement and not as a pharmaceutical product, so it would not require FDA clearance. Some companies have already been selling the stuff in the past, but they were all small outfits and who knows if it was legit or not.

[Gjm127]

I don't get it, what phase are they in as of today?
We haven't heard anything concerning efficacy, safety, or wtv (like we do with Histogen, Aderans, etc...)

[vred]

Yup, me too Hairi.

The reason i've been so excited about S Equol is it is THE next available potential treatment. I also thought I remember seeing somewhere about it's anti-inflammatory characteristics. Blocking DHT + Anti Inflam =

We will see.

[HARIRI]

If it really works, then I may use it together with Keratene alternatively. One day S-Equol and the other Keratene until I find solid concrete proof that it really works. Wishing all the best for cures that can replace the stupid FIN.

[vred]

Less than 6 months to go for the next commercial product that may actually work

[vred]

PinotQ

In theory, it seems S Equol would be superior to Fin and Ker as it directly goes after DHT, not indirectly by messing with enzymes which then effects DHT. Due to it's direct effects, and the fact that it appears to be readly absorbed as a topical, it seems the most effective treatment would be a S Equol application directly to the scalp DHT!! AWESOME

[PinotQ]

FearTheLoss, There are no studies to date that are specifically for MPB. But there are many many studies conclusively confirming that s-equol binds to and therefore inactivates DHT without causing systemic hormonal side effects. The major open question appears to be whether there is a practical dosage that would totally shut down DHT. There is a patent application suggesting that 50 mg per day for a 195 lb person might do the trick. Given that about 60% of Asians naturally produce s-equol in their intestines from the breakdown of soy, and further given that Asians have (according to some of the literature I have read) about a 50% less occurrence of MPB, there is some cause for optimism. Just the same, at this point, its in large part speculation.