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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    Originally posted by bananana
    just one thing - I might be crazy, but I think I'm seeing less grey hair since I've started taking S-equol, could it be related?
    are you using it as a topical?

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1408

      What about aloe vera as a vehicle?


      Aloe vera, as a biological vehicle for hydrocortisone 21-acetate, was tested topically and systemically against acute inflammation. Systemically, the combination of A. vera and hydrocortisone produced a maximum 88.1% inhibition of edema. Polymorphonuclear leukocyte infiltration was reduced 91.1%. The topical inhibition of edema peaked at 97%. The possibility that A. vera has significant potential as a biologically active vehicle for steroids is discussed.

      Aloe vera, as a biological vehicle for hydrocortisone 21-acetate, was tested topically and systemically against acute inflammation. Systemically, the combination of A. vera and hydrocortisone produced a maximum 88.1% inhibition of edema. Polymorphonuclear leukocyte infiltration was reduced 91.1%. Th …

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      • NeedHairASAP
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1408

        I got versapro

        how many s equol pills should i put in 100mg of versapro?

        I'mgoing to add zinc and ginger root too

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        • Adaku
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 19

          Where did you get VersaPro / what led to the decision use it? I haven't looked into it much.

          I may try this as well, after I read the paper that pinotq posted.

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          • bananana
            Inactive
            • Feb 2012
            • 524

            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
            are you using it as a topical?
            Nope, orally.

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            • PinotQ
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 186

              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              I got versapro

              how many s equol pills should i put in 100mg of versapro?

              I'mgoing to add zinc and ginger root too
              This may help you out: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html Go to the bottom and there is a calculator to figure percentage concentrations. I am a little confused about the solubility of equol. If you go here: https://www.caymanchem.com/pdfs/10010173.pdf it says that equol is soluble at 15mg/ml. Here: https://www.lclabs.com/PRODFILE/D-F/E-5880.html at 200mg/ml Here: http://www.selleckchem.com/products/equol.html at 48mg/ml

              So I'm not sure what the solubility is.....although since the research article says they used a 1.2% in DMSO, solubilty may be closer to the 15mg/ml.

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              • thechamp
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1763

                Can I add it to minoxdil to make a topical ??

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                • PinotQ
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 186

                  Originally posted by thechamp
                  Can I add it to minoxdil to make a topical ??
                  I think one thing everyone should be aware of if they want to make a topical is that the powder inside Nature's Sunshine capsules is substantially filler. You would need to open each capsule and dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol. Then you would need to filter the alcohol to remove the sediment. I suppose you could buy equol in quantity but unless you buy in huge bulk it is outrageously expensive. You could probably buy it in China at a cheap cost but I wouldn't trust anything coming from there.

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                  • NeedHairASAP
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1408

                    Originally posted by PinotQ
                    I think one thing everyone should be aware of if they want to make a topical is that the powder inside Nature's Sunshine capsules is substantially filler. You would need to open each capsule and dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol. Then you would need to filter the alcohol to remove the sediment. I suppose you could buy equol in quantity but unless you buy in huge bulk it is outrageously expensive. You could probably buy it in China at a cheap cost but I wouldn't trust anything coming from there.
                    Dude! why didn't you mention this. I just got my vesapro and don't feel like going all chemist with this

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                    • thechamp
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1763

                      So we can't just drop a few pills in too minoxdill ??

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                      • PinotQ
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 186

                        Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                        Dude! why didn't you mention this. I just got my vesapro and don't feel like going all chemist with this
                        Not that it's my responsibility but I did suggest a process in a post on 10/31 where I said that I looked up all of the filler ingredients in Nature's Sunshine and none of them are soluble in alcohol. I'm not a chemist but that would lead me to believe that if you dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol, you would be left with filler at the bottom and a solution that contains a certain % of equol. Also, I believe my % solution calculations were wrong in that post. According to the % solution calculator here: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html you would need to dissolve 443.6025 mg of equol in 1 oz of alcohol to obtain a 1.5% alcohol solution of equol. That's about 1 and 1/4 bottles of equol.

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                        • thechamp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1763

                          Originally posted by PinotQ
                          Not that it's my responsibility but I did suggest a process in a post on 10/31 where I said that I looked up all of the filler ingredients in Nature's Sunshine and none of them are soluble in alcohol. I'm not a chemist but that would lead me to believe that if you dissolve the powder in ethyl alcohol, you would be left with filler at the bottom and a solution that contains a certain % of equol. Also, I believe my % solution calculations were wrong in that post. According to the % solution calculator here: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calcula...alculator.html you would need to dissolve 443.6025 mg of equol in 1 oz of alcohol to obtain a 1.5% alcohol solution of equol. That's about 1 and 1/4 bottles of equol.
                          Why don't we get the chemist that user jazz knows Tracy maybe she can mix some up for us ?

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                          • Jazz1
                            Inactive
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1598

                            Originally posted by thechamp
                            Why don't we get the chemist that user jazz knows Tracy maybe she can mix some up for us ?
                            Susan told me she can formulate anything, but all depends how legal the drugs and compounds are? As she won't formulate illegal compounds she's very by the book and strict.

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                            • thechamp
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1763

                              Originally posted by Jazz1
                              Susan told me she can formulate anything, but all depends how legal the drugs and compounds are? As she won't formulate illegal compounds she's very by the book and strict.
                              http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/pr...capsules/3542/ It's natural can you ask her for us ?

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                              • Jazz1
                                Inactive
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1598

                                Originally posted by thechamp
                                http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/pr...capsules/3542/ It's natural can you ask her for us ?
                                I asked her before, she's always up for making anything so if that's legit legal than no problem. Who interested in trying it?

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