Taking .05mg finasteride effective with fewer side effects?

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  • thechamp
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1763

    #46
    Just googled it

    From what I have been reading most people say from 5 to 8 proscar pills in to 60mls of minoxidil, I just googled it and read heaps and thought **** it, spectral dnc has nansomes I'm going for it!

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    • dex89
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 808

      #47
      Originally posted by thechamp
      From what I have been reading most people say from 5 to 8 proscar pills in to 60mls of minoxidil, I just googled it and read heaps and thought **** it, spectral dnc has nansomes I'm going for it!
      Please keep us posted

      are you using this method because of sides?

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      • thechamp
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1763

        #48
        Yep

        Weight gain on propecia http://yupb.com/hair-regrowth/hair-regrowth-1884.html here's a link

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        • dex89
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 808

          #49
          Originally posted by thechamp
          Weight gain on propecia http://yupb.com/hair-regrowth/hair-regrowth-1884.html here's a link
          Thanks mate.

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          • thechamp
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1763

            #50
            Another link

            http://www.hairsite2.com/waseda/anti...m23summary.htm another link I mean its worth a shot

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            • ChrisM
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 299

              #51
              Unless you are a chemist or have a degree in pharmacology there is no way you can know for certain what crushing pills and putting them in a solution of other chemicals or fluids will do. The finasteride in question is not designed in soluble liquid form but was instead meant for ingestion and an internal delivery to the bloodstream and not by design made for a topical absorption through the scalp. So to make or create such a solution you are rolling the dice with your health taking an even larger risk in addition to the potential side effects that finasteride might display. As an individual you will have to determine if you wish to do that or not.

              Next to answer a previous question pills of finasteride are not sold at .05 mg you will need a pill cutter you can purchase at your local pharmacy for that.

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              • thechamp
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1763

                #52
                Stop panicking

                I mean I don't smoke I'm gambling this I think I'll be fine I'm Norwood 1 not shedding so ill see I'm going for it

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                • rdawg
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 996

                  #53
                  Originally posted by ChrisM

                  Next to answer a previous question pills of finasteride are not sold at .05 mg you will need a pill cutter you can purchase at your local pharmacy for that.
                  Is it even possible to cut the pill that small? I definitely cant do that with Proscar.

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                  • unk
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 68

                    #54
                    You sound like evel knievel about to jump the grand canyon, hardly sound and calm I can't say i'm not curious, but it's not a good idea to rush into it in my opinion the champ.

                    I want to try 0.05 mg too for the reported reduction in serum DHT, but following the ethanol route, even with a modest background studying pharmacology as a biomedic, I have many concerns with the idea. A chemist/pharmacist would greatly aid the mission. Here is just a couple of things to illustrate why the laymen shouldn't go nuts on nuts ideas, prefacing that these are coming from a laymen himself.

                    1) solubility/dissolution are not the same thing. Just because it dissolves, is not to say it has solubilized. How soluble the two solutes are will be determined by how molecularly similar finasteride (C23H36N2O2) and ethanol (C2H6O) are. To me they both look polar, and reasonably similar, which is good news for solubility. I am however not a chemist, and I do not know how to draw Lewis structures or how to determine a molecule's geometry using VSEPR theory. This isn't taking into account temperature, which effects each compounds stability differently.

                    2) Do we have any idea how alcohol effects finasterides pharmacokinetics (including bioavailability or distribution), like it does so many other drugs?

                    3) My main queries yet to be answered are: Is it backed by sound chemistry? Is it safe? Can it be used to accurately administer 0.05mg, remembering that it's probably not going to have even distribution in the ethanol when you are pipetting your dose? Proving you can get 0.05mg of finasteride in your solution (remembering that 0.01mg is entirely ineffective), is the ethanol altering the pharmacokinetics of the drug?

                    Unk

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                    • Person
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 104

                      #55
                      I take 10 mg of finasteride a day. JK I would never trade my dick for my hair.

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                      • thechamp
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1763

                        #56
                        O well

                        If I die too bad I have tried it

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                        • thechamp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1763

                          #57
                          Talk about panic attacks

                          Your giving me a panic attack I well it's not going to kill me trying topical fin

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                          • unk
                            Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 68

                            #58
                            sorry thechamp, it was not my intention to cause you ill feelings, instead I hoped you would think it over. As a NW1 as you say, it will be pretty hard to evaluate the effectiveness I imagine, and I can understand that your hair loss situation might be the reason you are willing to offer yourself as a martyr. I actually don't think it will be dangerous, but if you decide to do it, please monitor your health situation, and keep us posted.

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                            • ChrisM
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 299

                              #59
                              Originally posted by rdawg
                              Is it even possible to cut the pill that small? I definitely cant do that with Proscar.
                              I know that for the Proscar 5mg you can use a pill cutter to trim it down to 1mg.. though I am not certain it can be used to cut down to .05 mg.. though I have heard of people cutting down to .5 or .25 mg respectively. Only way to know for sure is to stop by your local pharmacy upon looking to purchase it and asking the pharmacist if he has pill cutter that can measure a pill to that degree to be cut exactly that size.

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                              • ChrisM
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 299

                                #60
                                Originally posted by unk
                                sorry thechamp, it was not my intention to cause you ill feelings, instead I hoped you would think it over. As a NW1 as you say, it will be pretty hard to evaluate the effectiveness I imagine, and I can understand that your hair loss situation might be the reason you are willing to offer yourself as a martyr. I actually don't think it will be dangerous, but if you decide to do it, please monitor your health situation, and keep us posted.

                                Agreed. No disrespect to you the champ but you are not a pharmacist by your own admission or an advanced chemist to know what the interactions of finasteride and ethanol alcohol will cause to your body chemistry particularly when by design it was not meant to be delivered that way but internally in the bloodstream by digestion. It may at the least simply do nothing and at the worst have extreme side effects.

                                So you are taking a conceivable risk..a dice roll to your health here without comprehensive data to back it up and using yourself as a guinea pig is not wise though it is your body and your choice to do what you wish even though it is not advisable.

                                That would be to me the same logic as injecting the pill version of finasteride with ethanol straight into your testicles so it hits the prostrate immediately.. which is... pun intended.. quite nuts.

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