Need Help Developing a Regimen Without Fin

[25 going on 65]

It's weird because I was on fin forever with no sides then 5 years in they came outta nowhere!

What sides did you get besides gyno? Did they go away after you quit fin?

I ask because gyno is actually surprisingly common even if you don't use fin.

[Maradona]

I'm adding some items to my regimen lol . I got a haircut and I'm pissed. Adding proxiphen and buying some bimatoprost.

That's why I don't get hair cuts.

[lilpauly]

I'm adding some items to my regimen lol . I got a haircut and I'm pissed. Adding proxiphen and buying some bimatoprost.

[Conpecia]

Good point about the absorption into the bloodstream. I'll explore the vehicles.

[Conpecia]

It's weird because I was on fin forever with no sides then 5 years in they came outta nowhere!

[Maradona]

Hey man, I'm kinda sketched about RU because I asked on the RU thread about potential sides and the first response was it can give you man breasts, which is one of the reasons I got off fin. Is there any reason to think RU will cause me less severe sides than Fin? I was totally going to try it but bailed out after I heard it could give me gyno again. I'll keep it in mind though.

It can if your scalp absorbs and goes to your bloodstream. That's why you need to be careful and choose the right vehicle, like the KB solution.

If you see any nipple tenderness then you know bitch-tits are coming to get ya.
But you can always drop the RU and the sides go away and are not permanent like fin.

Tough choices, looks like you are super sensitive to anti-androgens.

[Conpecia]

Bro, I would highly recommend trying in RU. If you had such great results with fin, there is no reason as to why RU wouldn't work on you.

You just have to find a good source of fresh and pure RU and learn how to apply it.


I might have just saved your life. Just follow the RU thread if you have any questions.

Hey man, I'm kinda sketched about RU because I asked on the RU thread about potential sides and the first response was it can give you man breasts, which is one of the reasons I got off fin. Is there any reason to think RU will cause me less severe sides than Fin? I was totally going to try it but bailed out after I heard it could give me gyno again. I'll keep it in mind though.

[Maradona]

Neversaynever, I would def get on fin. It worked for me for about 5 years, stopped my baldness dead in its tracks and even grew back most of my thin spot up top. That's why I'm so crushed that out of nowhere I got nailed with these sides. If all else fails I might go to .25 mg a week of fin combined with 2% minox and of course Nizoral. I'm literally getting desperate, looking thinner and thinner by the week. It's so true that a receding hairline and thinning hair makes you look so much older. Suddenly people call me "Sir" everywhere I go; that wasn't happening this time last year...

I've bitched about this a million times but it just sucks that we're right at the edge of some really good treatments, possibly a cure, and we have absolutely no clue when anything will be released. Kids born after 2000 will probably never know baldness. I'm really starting to fear that without drastic measures I'm going to be slick bald by the time Histogen or whatever arrives in 2017, possibly beyond help. And sorry, I'm not gonna go down like that. I have a very thick donor region of dark hair and I will use every bit of it I can before I go slick. I pray to the gods that Gho is legit and his technique gets picked up in the U.S. by 2015. Or OC and prostaglandin inhibition works. Or Equol at high doses works. There are so many ****ing options. Something is gonna work in the next two or three years. Those of you who are in my position: all we need to do is god damn maintain!

(sorry for the rant; really getting pissed about this)

Bro, I would highly recommend trying in RU. If you had such great results with fin, there is no reason as to why RU wouldn't work on you.

You just have to find a good source of fresh and pure RU and learn how to apply it.


I might have just saved your life. Just follow the RU thread if you have any questions.

[Conpecia]

Neversaynever, I would def get on fin. It worked for me for about 5 years, stopped my baldness dead in its tracks and even grew back most of my thin spot up top. That's why I'm so crushed that out of nowhere I got nailed with these sides. If all else fails I might go to .25 mg a week of fin combined with 2% minox and of course Nizoral. I'm literally getting desperate, looking thinner and thinner by the week. It's so true that a receding hairline and thinning hair makes you look so much older. Suddenly people call me "Sir" everywhere I go; that wasn't happening this time last year...

I've bitched about this a million times but it just sucks that we're right at the edge of some really good treatments, possibly a cure, and we have absolutely no clue when anything will be released. Kids born after 2000 will probably never know baldness. I'm really starting to fear that without drastic measures I'm going to be slick bald by the time Histogen or whatever arrives in 2017, possibly beyond help. And sorry, I'm not gonna go down like that. I have a very thick donor region of dark hair and I will use every bit of it I can before I go slick. I pray to the gods that Gho is legit and his technique gets picked up in the U.S. by 2015. Or OC and prostaglandin inhibition works. Or Equol at high doses works. There are so many ****ing options. Something is gonna work in the next two or three years. Those of you who are in my position: all we need to do is god damn maintain!

(sorry for the rant; really getting pissed about this)

[worried]

God help us.

Dnt you u think emu oil is good for hairs ?

[25 going on 65]

By diet i mean just a very healthy diet. Zero junk food. It will probably make no difference at all, because the MPB mechanism has already started. But what harm can it do?

I agree diet probably makes no real impact on the MPB process, but I do think it can have a noticeable cosmetic impact on your existing hairs. Healthier, more lustrous looking hair can sometimes help disguise MPB a bit.

[Jcm800]

God help us.

^^^^Pmsl

[UK_]

what do you think abt EMU Oil ?

God help us.

[neversaynever]

What type of diet do u suggest?
Dont you think minox and AHK are only growth stimulants and the hairs grown by them would be only for short period of time

By diet i mean just a very healthy diet. Zero junk food. It will probably make no difference at all, because the MPB mechanism has already started. But what harm can it do?

People say that as soon as your stop minox, you lose the hair. If I grow hair, i wont change anything until someone like histogen hit the market...

SO, a short period of time, might just be enough. Problem is everyone is so different. Some people see no improvement, some people lose hair, some people maintain, others regrow vellus hairs, others manage to turn those vellus hairs into full terminal hairs, especially in the vertex and back. Im quite happy if just save the vertex and back.Regrowth is a bonus.

[worried]

I think the chances of major side effects on fin are exagerrated on forums, because of the very nature of forums. Though they are higher than what merck claims.

However, you simply dont understand how scary it is almost decide between your sex life and hair. Fin was tested properly for safety and to this day we are still learning new things.

I dont think RU will leave many guys very sorry they did it, though there are other substances that make me think people shouldnt be using high doses and taking orally.

If histogen launch into phase 3 with fire in their bellies next year, we know exactly how long we have to stay on these chemicals. Whether it is fin, RU or whatever.

These are calculated risks, but desperate guys, and I am one of them

1. Keep your scalp clean (shampoo)
2. Lower DHT levels and keep DHT away from receptors
3. Add stimulants such as minox and AHK (NOT past 5%).
4. Complete diet change, and include things like Biotin.
5. Stay positive. I have a feeling that worrying about sides endlessly might bring them on. In a minority of users.
6. Address inflammation with oils.

What type of diet do u suggest?
Dont you think minox and AHK are only growth stimulants and the hairs grown by them would be only for short period of time