There are no hairloss treatments.

[Tracy C]

So if you have a NW6, you have a mature adult hairline?

It is painfully obvious that you are not paying attention. If you are not going to pay attention I cannot waste any more of my time on you. Go see a specialist.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Maybe neither of you actually knows what an adult male hair line looks like. Here is a clue. If your hair line looks like a girls hair line, you do not have a mature male hair line.

So if you have a NW6, you have a mature adult hairline?

[Tracy C]

i had a mature hairline 2 years ago and i looked like an old man .

Maybe neither of you actually knows what an adult male hair line looks like. Here is a clue. If your hair line looks like a girls hair line, you do not have a mature male hair line.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I did not tell you that you had an adult male hair line. You did not provide a picture before. So how could I tell you that without seeing you? Pay attention. If you are not going to pay attention, you are not going to get much help here. Go see a specialist - and pay attention while you are there. Do whatever you need to do to make sure you understand what you are being told.

Yes you did - here:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7256

2nd post:

"looks like a mature hairline"

I asked you questions then, and you was telling me the same thing. but now are telling me something different. This is precisely why I am confused.

This thread was created a while back.

****s sake, this shit is depressing. You know its bad, when tracy thinks you are balding.

[Jcm800]

Tracy C you make me smile with your posts, you remind me of a school teacher with your manner, no offence meant

[Tracy C]

You told me before it was a matrure hairline, now you are telling me it is beyond that - which is it?

I did not tell you that you had an adult male hair line. You did not provide a picture before. So how could I tell you that without seeing you? Pay attention. If you are not going to pay attention, you are not going to get much help here. Go see a specialist - and pay attention while you are there. Do whatever you need to do to make sure you understand what you are being told.

[Tracy C]

****'s sake.... there should be an automatic ban for anyone who even begins typing "mature hairline". No such thing.

Before you say another world of this nonsense. Get away from your computer, get out into the real world, open your eyes and look around. Men have a very different hair line than women. Women usually keep their juvenile hair lines, men usually don't. Open your eyes.

[yeahyeahyeah]

You are not paying attention.





This conflicts with what you said before.





Why are you not paying attention?





Again, why are you not paying attention?

Maybe it is best for you stop here and go talk to a specialist. Talk to a few specialists. Take a tape recorder with you - or at least write down what the doctor says word for word.

I can see from the poor quality pictures you have provided that you are beyond a normal adult male hair line. You are a Norwood 2. I cannot tell from these poor quality photos if you are thinning in the vertex or mid-anterior.

You told me before it was a matrure hairline, now you are telling me it is beyond that - which is it?

[lilpauly]

The vast majority of guys want to believe that this is a myth. It isn't a myth. This is one of those natural and normal male physical traits that differs from females like bigger hands, bigger feet, deeper voice, wider shoulders and so on.

Whether you wait to treat it or not is entirely up to you. It is your decision alone and no one can or should make it for you. You can only try to predict what will happen but you cannot know for sure what will happen. You need to look at your male relatives from both sides of your family to try to determine if it is likely to get worse or not.

i had a mature hairline 2 years ago and i looked like an old man .

[Tracy C]

Well then it is not a mature hairline, it is a slow form of MPB.

You are not paying attention.

They are NW6s.

This conflicts with what you said before.

Does it help with the hairline?

Read guys saying their hairline worsens after taking this.

Why are you not paying attention?

And will I shed?

Again, why are you not paying attention?

Maybe it is best for you stop here and go talk to a specialist. Talk to a few specialists. Take a tape recorder with you - or at least write down what the doctor says word for word.

I can see from the poor quality pictures you have provided that you are beyond a normal adult male hair line. You are a Norwood 2. I cannot tell from these poor quality photos if you are thinning in the vertex or mid-anterior.

[ryan555]

Was your grandad born with the norwood 2, or did he develop it?

And what was the shape of the norwood 2 like? Was it like ours?

And yes you are right, it makes more sense of a HT dr to just perform a HT - they make more cash that way.

Of course he developed it. Nobody is born with a Norwood 2. Teenage boys pretty much always have a low hairline like their female counterparts. Then in the late teens or twenties, a lot of guys start receding. Some of these men have aggressive MPB, which is generally apparent by their mid- to late-twenties when it is going to move to an advanced pattern of baldness. Some of them stay that way for many years and then advance in their hair loss slowly (usually to a less advanced balding pattern). Some others stay that way forever, or only experience very minor additional loss when they are much older (go look at Mitt Romney - do you think he's ever going to be bald?). Then there are a minority of men who are indeed lucky enough to keep the childhood hairline. People look at celebrities and say "look at those NW1 hairlines," but you don't know who has had work done. I can think of a few actors with NW1 hairlines (George Clooney and Sean Penn are examples) who have had their hairlines transplanted from NW2's to NW1's. The guys who refuse to accept the notion of a mature hairline are most likely guys with more severe baldness who want everyone to be as miserable as they are. Or, they are neurotic OCD types who get some sort of weird satisfaction out of freaking themselves and everyone else out completely.

[Kirby_]

Sorry, I wasn't calling you hysterical, just referring to the hysteria that is spread about these meds in general. They aren't perfect but they are much better than many on this forum would have you believe.

Well, I agree that there's a lot of negativity around the safety of the existing medications. I put off starting fin by three months as I was terrified to death by the stories I was coming across on hairloss forums.

[ryan555]

I didn't mean to come across as hysterical - I didn't mean that the existing treatments make you drop dead or lose your penis within a month or whatever, just that they have limited usefulness. Regrowth in even the best case scenarios is unfortunately not magnificent in terms of quantity of hair. The existing mass-market treatments are at best just to maintain, and only for a finite amount of time. That is better than nothing, yes, but there certainly needs to be advancements in treatment options.

Sorry, I wasn't calling you hysterical, just referring to the hysteria that is spread about these meds in general. They aren't perfect but they are much better than many on this forum would have you believe.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Yes, I'm sure there is a conspiracy where all the hair loss doctors in the world have decided to make this up even though they would all benefit financially were it not true. I am glad 2020 from the bald truth forums knows better than the medical community. By the way, my grandfather who died at 82 with a thick Norwood 2 hairline would disagree with your assessment.

After spending some time on this board, I'm starting to think that IQ and emotional stability are somehow contained within hair follicles.

Was your grandad born with the norwood 2, or did he develop it?

And what was the shape of the norwood 2 like? Was it like ours?

And yes you are right, it makes more sense of a HT dr to just perform a HT - they make more cash that way.

[Kirby_]

Where do you get your information? Millions of men are on Propecia and I would assume even more than that are on Minoxidil. I know of at least 10 of my friends who take Propecia and it has maintained their hair. I took it for 12 years and I kept the hair of a 12-year-old boy the entire time I was on it. These meds work well and for the vast majority of men they do not cause major issues. You would never know this by reading these boards because there is absolute hysteria being spread about them.

I didn't mean to come across as hysterical - I didn't mean that the existing treatments make you drop dead or lose your penis within a month or whatever, just that they have limited usefulness. Regrowth in even the best case scenarios is unfortunately not magnificent in terms of quantity of hair. The existing mass-market treatments are at best just to maintain, and only for a finite amount of time. That is better than nothing, yes, but there certainly needs to be advancements in treatment options.