There are no hairloss treatments.

[Tracy C]

Well then it is not a mature hairline, it is a slow form of MPB.

You are not paying attention.

They are NW6s.

This conflicts with what you said before.

Does it help with the hairline?

Read guys saying their hairline worsens after taking this.

Why are you not paying attention?

And will I shed?

Again, why are you not paying attention?

Maybe it is best for you stop here and go talk to a specialist. Talk to a few specialists. Take a tape recorder with you - or at least write down what the doctor says word for word.

I can see from the poor quality pictures you have provided that you are beyond a normal adult male hair line. You are a Norwood 2. I cannot tell from these poor quality photos if you are thinning in the vertex or mid-anterior.

[lilpauly]

The vast majority of guys want to believe that this is a myth. It isn't a myth. This is one of those natural and normal male physical traits that differs from females like bigger hands, bigger feet, deeper voice, wider shoulders and so on.

Whether you wait to treat it or not is entirely up to you. It is your decision alone and no one can or should make it for you. You can only try to predict what will happen but you cannot know for sure what will happen. You need to look at your male relatives from both sides of your family to try to determine if it is likely to get worse or not.

i had a mature hairline 2 years ago and i looked like an old man .

[yeahyeahyeah]

You are not paying attention.





This conflicts with what you said before.





Why are you not paying attention?





Again, why are you not paying attention?

Maybe it is best for you stop here and go talk to a specialist. Talk to a few specialists. Take a tape recorder with you - or at least write down what the doctor says word for word.

I can see from the poor quality pictures you have provided that you are beyond a normal adult male hair line. You are a Norwood 2. I cannot tell from these poor quality photos if you are thinning in the vertex or mid-anterior.

You told me before it was a matrure hairline, now you are telling me it is beyond that - which is it?

[Tracy C]

****'s sake.... there should be an automatic ban for anyone who even begins typing "mature hairline". No such thing.

Before you say another world of this nonsense. Get away from your computer, get out into the real world, open your eyes and look around. Men have a very different hair line than women. Women usually keep their juvenile hair lines, men usually don't. Open your eyes.

[Tracy C]

You told me before it was a matrure hairline, now you are telling me it is beyond that - which is it?

I did not tell you that you had an adult male hair line. You did not provide a picture before. So how could I tell you that without seeing you? Pay attention. If you are not going to pay attention, you are not going to get much help here. Go see a specialist - and pay attention while you are there. Do whatever you need to do to make sure you understand what you are being told.

[Jcm800]

Tracy C you make me smile with your posts, you remind me of a school teacher with your manner, no offence meant

[yeahyeahyeah]

I did not tell you that you had an adult male hair line. You did not provide a picture before. So how could I tell you that without seeing you? Pay attention. If you are not going to pay attention, you are not going to get much help here. Go see a specialist - and pay attention while you are there. Do whatever you need to do to make sure you understand what you are being told.

Yes you did - here:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7256

2nd post:

"looks like a mature hairline"

I asked you questions then, and you was telling me the same thing. but now are telling me something different. This is precisely why I am confused.

This thread was created a while back.

****s sake, this shit is depressing. You know its bad, when tracy thinks you are balding.

[Tracy C]

i had a mature hairline 2 years ago and i looked like an old man .

Maybe neither of you actually knows what an adult male hair line looks like. Here is a clue. If your hair line looks like a girls hair line, you do not have a mature male hair line.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Maybe neither of you actually knows what an adult male hair line looks like. Here is a clue. If your hair line looks like a girls hair line, you do not have a mature male hair line.

So if you have a NW6, you have a mature adult hairline?

[Tracy C]

So if you have a NW6, you have a mature adult hairline?

It is painfully obvious that you are not paying attention. If you are not going to pay attention I cannot waste any more of my time on you. Go see a specialist.

[lilpauly]

Maybe neither of you actually knows what an adult male hair line looks like. Here is a clue. If your hair line looks like a girls hair line, you do not have a mature male hair line.

i'm working on restoring my hairline. i HAD a mature hairline and i looked terrible

[Tracy C]

Yes you did - here:

Different photos. Still poor quality. In that first photo from back then, it does look like a mature male hair line. In the additional photos you have provided today, I can see more. The quality of the photos you provide can make a very big difference.

Now really. You are not paying attention and as a result you are wasting my time. Go see a specialist.

[yeahyeahyeah]

It is painfully obvious that you are not paying attention. If you are not going to pay attention I cannot waste any more of my time on you. Go see a specialist.

You clearly didnt check my thread.

I will see a specialist, looks like very few people on here can accurately diagnose hairloss.

One minute mature hairline, the next minute, beyond the adult mature hairline. Can someone provide pics of how a mature hairline looks like?

Rahal turned me down because he thought it was a mature hairline based on photos. Anyway sent a pic to hasson and wong.

Also - be a lot nicer to people, I am clearly quite distressed over this whole thing, so its natural to feel a bit frustrated. I am potentially going to be taking propecia and ****ing around with my hormones, which isnt a beautiful thought.

[mpb47]

You guys are always arguing over semantics. You may not agree 100% but you are almost saying the same thing. My understanding (from Dr. Proctor) is that the mature hairline does in fact exist and is technically separate (for the moment) from mpb. In most(but not all) cases mpb does follow at some point in the future..though that can be many years down the road (for me it was around 20 years).

Also I was reading a F>M board this past weekend and saw them discussing this very issue. It was brought up that virtually all women who take testosterone get this same hairline change as well, even if they do not ever go bald. Just guessing but it sounds like it's more of a side effect of testosterone than DHT.

[mpb47]

Different photos. Still poor quality. In that first photo from back then, it does look like a mature male hair line. In the additional photos you have provided today, I can see more. The quality of the photos you provide can make a very big difference.

Now really. You are not paying attention and as a result you are wasting my time. Go see a specialist.

Tracy,
I think they are just trying to push your buttons..