Addressing root cause of male pattern baldness: a well known approach?

[2020]

loool i thought diet cant impact hair loss...

yeah we're talking about ALCOHOL here.... now show me a study where the same is achieved on a gluten free diet or something

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yeah but I don't want to block 5AR... your body will eventually adjust to it so that's a bad long term solution

finasteride is a good way to address the 5alpareductase imbalances, but the dosages/treatment frequency is overkill.

[gutted]

http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/6/903.full

alcoholism = hypo-androgenism

that explains why rock stars never lose hair

loool i thought diet cant impact hair loss...

[2020]

finasteride increased it in women...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10376445

yeah but I don't want to block 5AR... your body will eventually adjust to it so that's a bad long term solution

[2020]

http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/6/903.full

alcoholism = hypo-androgenism

that explains why rock stars never lose hair

[gutted]

what are you talking about?



so we're back on bad diet causes MPB? no...

okay green tea I'll go look for studies, what else?

finasteride increased it in women...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10376445

[2020]

use a pgd2 inhibitor?? lool

what are you talking about?

you cant do it without modifying your diet, try adding green tea. theres studies stating it raises sbhg.

so we're back on bad diet causes MPB? no...

okay green tea I'll go look for studies, what else?

[gutted]

insulin is not the only thing that controls SHBG levels and even so how would I fix it without going on a diet?

use a pgd2 inhibitor?? lool

you cant do it without modifying your diet, try adding green tea. theres studies stating it raises sbhg.

[2020]

looooooool

hes told you 10 million times yet you still ask the same question.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7962291

insulin is not the only thing that controls SHBG levels and even so how would I fix it without going on a diet?

dude, just stick to your pgd2 inhibition or finastride.

[gutted]

all right so since SHBG is low what could be the most common causes for it?

looooooool

hes told you 10 million times yet you still ask the same question.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7962291

dude, just stick to your pgd2 inhibition or finastride.

[2020]

You can't. Hormonal balance is tightly regulated in the organism. The best you can do is either raise or decrease metabolic rates, or correct imbalances.

all right so since SHBG is low what could be the most common causes for it?

Probably trying to forcefully increase your metabolic rate with the same treatment i have been advocating since the start of the thread... pregnenolone, T replacement, cortisol replacement, Thyroid hormone replacement. For starters, the only way to increase resting metabolism is to get the thyroid to allow for a higher metabolic rate, despite the pituitary telling it to "lay low". As i said before, just trying increase your SHBG to useful levels would be a disaster and create a metabolic imbalance.

ugh is that really the best way? Taking T3 pills for the rest of your life? That can't be good

Are you kidding? Paying thousands of dollars for a transplant which is simply groctesque and barely covers what you lost, or taking dangerous meds like finasteride is better than adopting a healthier diet?

did I suggest transplants and DHT blockers? I said I'd rather just give up and go bald gracefully rather than going on crazy diets(which never work for MPB) for the rest of my life...

I know people who would gladly kill if it stopped their balding.

no one has ever ever ever in the history of mankind stopped their MPB by changing diet.

[Aston]

I didn't say I have a low SHBG.... I said it would be wise to keep it high though.

You can't. Hormonal balance is tightly regulated in the organism. The best you can do is either raise or decrease metabolic rates, or correct imbalances.

right right... low SHBG = insulin problems. I know that. Question now: what would be the best way to raise it without changing diet?

Probably trying to forcefully increase your metabolic rate with the same treatment i have been advocating since the start of the thread... pregnenolone, T replacement, cortisol replacement, Thyroid hormone replacement. For starters, the only way to increase resting metabolism is to get the thyroid to allow for a higher metabolic rate, despite the pituitary telling it to "lay low". As i said before, just trying increase your SHBG to useful levels would be a disaster and create a metabolic imbalance.

no one here will change their diet purely for male pattern baldness.... I'd rather go bald actually. Don't reduce this forum to IH where they talk about which potatoes are better for hair ffs why are they so crazy?

Are you kidding? Paying thousands of dollars for a transplant which is simply groctesque and barely covers what you lost, or taking dangerous meds like finasteride is better than adopting a healthier diet? I know people who would gladly kill if it stopped their balding.

That said, i don't plan to discuss diet in detail in this thread and forum. There are specific forums for that.

[2020]

2020, you always have tunnel vision. Okay, you have low SHBG. Ask yourself why.
Can't answer? Then shush and listen.

I didn't say I have a low SHBG.... I said it would be wise to keep it high though.

Study examining the japanese case (sorry, need access for article): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14527633

right right... low SHBG = insulin problems. I know that. Question now: what would be the best way to raise it without changing diet?

Overlook:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/31...iet-hair-loss/

no one here will change their diet purely for male pattern baldness.... I'd rather go bald actually. Don't reduce this forum to IH where they talk about which potatoes are better for hair ffs why are they so crazy?

[Aston]

2020, you always have tunnel vision. Okay, you have low SHBG. Ask yourself why.
Can't answer? Then shush and listen.

Study examining the japanese case (sorry, need access for article): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14527633

Overlook:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/319942-the-paleo-diet-hair-loss/

[2020]

I have no time to go look for what is common knowledge in balding communities. Use google, you will find it.

nope! There hasn't been ANY STUDIES that even tried proving this WW2 japanese balding theory... people like you mention it a lot but there is no actual source for that.

Yes, men with AR sensitivity genes WILL go bald at some point.

it's not as simple as sensitive vs nonsensitive, there is a wide range with that. Some people have sensitivity 50x higher than non-balding people..

What i'm trying to figure out is whether going bald at 20 should be as common as it is and whether it can be fought at its roots. No matter the way you look at it, it evolutionarily makes no sense for a man to go bald at 20 when his first worry is reproduction and women across all races consider baldness unattractive.
Couple this with the hormonal "imperfections" of balding men and a clear pattern emerges. A pattern many others are starting to see. A metabolic one.

it isn't that common dude... do you know what an average diet of a college aged student consists of yet I don't see many people my age balding.


Hormonal imperfections right which is why I suggested treating it by raising SHBG(good if it was low) and lowering DHT... what's wrong with that?