Fin shed

[gutted]

Dont most people view the shed that the medicine is working. They say to stick it out and continue with the drug.

i think theres two types of sheds.

1) - it makes sense that for a thicker hair to grow, the old one needs to be released so a new hair can form. This is one type of sheds that fin users experience and possibly the majority. But it could also be due to a lack of androgen stimulation. No one realy report sheds until 1 to 2 month on fin.

2) - hyperandrogenicty sheds - this is the shed that is not a normal shed, it is an accelaration of mpb/damage being done to the hairs causing it to shed.

an indicator of the shed type you are experiencing, is your scalp itch/and sebum levels. If your scalp itches like mad and is oily that is mpb accelarating.

[Wonderdog]

Nothing unusual in the sex department. I have no other sides no acne no sebum. Jst itchiness bt its not ott, so cud jst because i am thinking abt ittoo much. What really shocks me and makes me feel it is not a fin shed is the shedding from all over, back sides etc. I am thnning and hav a bald patch on the side of my head where i never had problems before. Also this does not fall in line with my dads baldness. He has lost it at the font. The crown is absolutely fine and he receeded first. Grandparents both have hair. I am
Also losing hair at the back sides which are mesnt to be never affected. Eyelashes and eyebrows effected as well.

I cant see why cold turkey wud effect it as its meant to only stay in yre stsyem for 24 hrs hence the daily dosage so surely t
Cant be that much of a shock to the system as otherwise they wud insist u take it at the same time evryday otherwise u wud have a negative effect. That is nt widely publicised. And it is clearly the fin that is having this diffuse effect. Either eay what is happening is not normal mpb. Its a rapid decrease in density all over in patches that shudnt be effected.

[Wonderdog]

If i was to ween myself off it what shud i do?

[25 going on 65]

Wonderdog: It sounds like your hair loss is not from MPB or finasteride, but from another cause. Rapidly losing hair from the sides and top of your head (I assume you mean the horseshoe area that is normally unaffected by MPB) is not normal for genetic balding, and it is not a known finasteride side effect.

I'm not a doctor, but if I was you, I would make an appointment with one. There are many potential causes to hair loss other than genetics.

(Minoxidil and ketoconazole can also induce shedding, but again, not in the pattern you seem to have.)

Edit: This does not mean you don't have MPB, it more likely means that you have another condition on top of MPB that can likely be treated. It could even be something as simple as excessive stress.

[gutted]

If i was to ween myself off it what shud i do?

i think taking a pil every other day as a start and then chopping up the pill into smaller mg's would be what you would have to do. Do all this on 3 weeks to a month eventually stopping.

But again like the above post mentioned it could be something else, but have my own theory and have explained it, your better off going to a doctor and explaining this hyperandrogenicty to him and see what he says.

The sebum and itch should have been crazy if you were not on nizoral, the niz is keeping that under control for you.

[oOKawaiiOo]

I am shedding like crazy. Woke up today with 20 pieces of hair on my pillow!

been taking propecia for 10 months already and been on nuhair for month and a half. I wonder if nuhair is interfering with the propecia.

sigh

[alex82]

Seems like there's a few of us in the same position.
I'm currently on .5mg fin per day. Since starting fin last November my hair feels like it's been obliterated. Have read a bit on other forums about fin causing a hormonal imbalance resulting in telegen effluvium. I wonder if this can be the case.
Have you guys been to your docs to get any blood tests done? I'm scheduled to go this week. Want to see testosterone dht and thyroid tests ideally.

[alex82]

Kawai, have you seen any positive results on propecia in the 10 months or was it all downhill?

What is nuhair? Is that a herbal?

[Wonderdog]

Alex, we are in the same boat. My hair just isnt my hair anymore. Doesnt feel right, but this is around the sides and back as well. Parts that shud be unaffected and parts that were fine before. Please let us knw wht the test results come back with. Had a blood test for thyroid bt other than hairloss got no other problems so doubtful it will be an issue. 2 days off fin. Shed seems better bt still sme loss. Abt 5 to 10. Planning on taking an 8th tonight. So mch less. Bt part of me jst doesnt want to put this stuff in my body anymore.

[gutted]

Alex, we are in the same boat. My hair just isnt my hair anymore. Doesnt feel right, but this is around the sides and back as well. Parts that shud be unaffected and parts that were fine before. Please let us knw wht the test results come back with. Had a blood test for thyroid bt other than hairloss got no other problems so doubtful it will be an issue. 2 days off fin. Shed seems better bt still sme loss. Abt 5 to 10. Planning on taking an 8th tonight. So mch less. Bt part of me jst doesnt want to put this stuff in my body anymore.

have you stopped completeley? or are you going to slowly get off it?

[Wonderdog]

Skipped yesterday, then took an 8th today. Think i will take an 8th each day for nxt two weeks, see how the shed goes then will consuly my doctor before stopping completely. Or do you suggest something different? Still on minoxidil as i tried it before and never had an issue, jst once a day.

Still have the burning sensation with my scalp, dnt know if anyone has any suggestions. Its in certain patches. Not all over, no inflamation is visible and i am using nizoral. A constant reminder of the state of my hair.

[gutted]

Skipped yesterday, then took an 8th today. Think i will take an 8th each day for nxt two weeks, see how the shed goes then will consuly my doctor before stopping completely. Or do you suggest something different? Still on minoxidil as i tried it before and never had an issue, jst once a day.

Still have the burning sensation with my scalp, dnt know if anyone has any suggestions. Its in certain patches. Not all over, no inflamation is visible and i am using nizoral. A constant reminder of the state of my hair.

i think your overdoing it with the fin, niz and minox.
Side effect of overusing niz is hairloss too.

speak to your doc, but i still think you should get off fin asap.

[oOKawaiiOo]

Kawai, have you seen any positive results on propecia in the 10 months or was it all downhill?

What is nuhair? Is that a herbal?

Nuhair is a herbal supplement in treating hairlost. Man I really think the nuhair is interfering with the propecia. The active ingredient in nuhair that inhibits DHT is saw palmetto. I read in a scholar paper about saw palmetto interferes with finasteride.Is that why Im not seeing the negative side effects of propecia? At the same time, im seeing lots more shedding. My gf has also commented my balding is getting worse. I remember when I took propecia alone (16 months), my hair shedding was reduced and I actually seen thicker hair come in. I had side effects, which was also an indication that the medication did something to my body!

Im giving up on Nuhair starting tonight. Going straight propecia...... However on the good side with taking Nuhair.....my gf commented my *beep* was REAL good last night. Well say bye bye to good loving

[oOKawaiiOo]

Skipped yesterday, then took an 8th today. Think i will take an 8th each day for nxt two weeks, see how the shed goes then will consuly my doctor before stopping completely. Or do you suggest something different? Still on minoxidil as i tried it before and never had an issue, jst once a day.

Still have the burning sensation with my scalp, dnt know if anyone has any suggestions. Its in certain patches. Not all over, no inflamation is visible and i am using nizoral. A constant reminder of the state of my hair.

Your using the generic propecia right?

Well You have to be consistent with your dosage to maximize the best results. But yeah, consult with your doctor. Stay on the minoxidil, and nizoral because they are just topical treatments and shedding does occur when use initially. Your not going to see results with the minoxidil til like 4-6 months after using it daily. So cliche as it sounds...... Keep on using it!

[alex82]

Nuhair is a herbal supplement in treating hairlost. Man I really think the nuhair is interfering with the propecia. The active ingredient in nuhair that inhibits DHT is saw palmetto. I read in a scholar paper about saw palmetto interferes with finasteride.Is that why Im not seeing the negative side effects of propecia? At the same time, im seeing lots more shedding. My gf has also commented my balding is getting worse. I remember when I took propecia alone (16 months), my hair shedding was reduced and I actually seen thicker hair come in. I had side effects, which was also an indication that the medication did something to my body!

Im giving up on Nuhair starting tonight. Going straight propecia...... However on the good side with taking Nuhair.....my gf commented my *beep* was REAL good last night. Well say bye bye to good loving

sounds positive you had some result on propecia alone in the 16mths. Yeah mixing two 5 alpha reductase inhibitors (saw palmetto and fin) prob isn't good. The fact your gf commented on your **** may mean that body upregulated testosterone levels to compensate? Good for sex/bad for hair. Just a thought

the shedding/thinning of side and and back hair is really odd. I have definitely noticed this on fin / niz alone. Surely this is not dht related. Maybe testosterone.

Hopefully tests at the docs may shed some light. (excuse the pun!)