All Propecia users,,, come here please !!!

[Folly]

been spanking my monkey like mad

LOL.

Appropriate username...

Hahahaha !!

@Chrisis: Have your sides worn off yet mate ?

Guys, is there anything you can take along with propecia to increase libido ? I'm going to ask my dermatologist when i see him next.

[sausage]

Mr Spunky Sausage.

[chrisis]

Appropriate username...

[sausage]

A week on Propecia and I am fine so far. No symptoms. And been spanking my monkey like mad so no decrease in my randyness and my spunk is still the same.

[chrisis]

I've not say people shouldn't take it, I just feel like I need to be honest and tell people to be cautious.

But yeah, I probably won't take it again. I wanted to when I first came off it at a lower dose, but the prolonged side effects make me extremely wary.

Think I might have a drinking game listening to the show tonight. Every time someone says propecia side effects are in men's heads I'll have a shot. Problem is I'll be hungover for work tomorrow.

[bob13]

Chris I agree with your statement.
But I would be real surprised if you started taking propecia again.

This is because you just dont think anyone should take it according to your posts.
You know I went off and back on and I haven't looked back.

But you have talked yourself out of the propecia a number of times by your
posts.
Good luck

[chrisis]

Are Japanese men more resistent to sides effects from Propecia? I really don't know, but I would imagine even if there is a difference its not significant enough to go from being 100% permenant impotent american man to perfectly normal japenese man. I guess it could exist to some reasonable extent.

Japanese men have totally different characteristics to men from Europe and America.

I did a bit of Google research and found this:

http://www.abc.net.au/health/minutes/stories/2007/02/20/1852079.htm

"Your ethnicity may determine your risk of side effects from common medications.

The trouble with the way medications are trialled, is that the groups of people in trials are not necessarily representative of the general population and if they are, their background isn't mentioned."

So this Japanese trial isn't worth shit. People need to stop referring to it ...unless you're advising someone who is actually Japanese.

[khan]

It's ok, I just think some balance is badly needed on this topic.

Wasn't the 10 year study based on Japanese men? If so, it only proves that Japanese men have a low number of side effects. Also, if a drug is affecting your sexual health, would you stay on it? Were the men on the trial rewarded for completing it? Were they being honest that they kept taking it? Too many questions. We just don't know the truth and that's the most honest and sensible position.

Are Japanese men more resistent to sides effects from Propecia? I really don't know, but I would imagine even if there is a difference its not significant enough to go from being 100% permenant impotent american man to perfectly normal japenese man. I guess it could exist to some reasonable extent.

The questions you are raising are all valid, but these same questions can be made about any other drug on the market. Finasteride is no exception.

Chris this may sound stupid, but I have heard that applying pure VitaminE oil to that particular area increases blood flow. There are some people on p-help.com that swear to it. I tried it a few months ago just to see if there is some truth to it, and maybe its in my head, but it actually made a little difference then how I usually am. I didn't pursue it any further cause the stuff is expensive, and I feel fine otherwise.

But yea it could be all in my head, just thought I should mention it.

[chrisis]

And I am basing this on the fact that even the 10yr study failed to find the sort of oersistent sides often mentioned. I think they do exist but are blown way out of proportion.

It's ok, I just think some balance is badly needed on this topic.

Wasn't the 10 year study based on Japanese men? If so, it only proves that Japanese men have a low number of side effects. Also, if a drug is affecting your sexual health, would you stay on it? Were the men on the trial rewarded for completing it? Were they being honest that they kept taking it? Too many questions. We just don't know the truth and that's the most honest and sensible position.

[khan]

I'm gonna be blunt here: you guys actually believe that me visiting this forum has not only affected the sensitivity of my dick and how much I cum, despite the fact I stopped taking finasteride like 6 weeks ago? Gotta say, no other forum has ever had that affect on my dick! In fact, nothing in 28 years has ever had that affect on that part of my body! Maybe they should bottle up the essence of this forum and send it off to be looked at in a laboratory!

On a serious note, you really need to suspend whatever opinion you have about finasteride and think about this. It's nonsense and if you were honest you'd admit it. Finasteride is a drug that alters your hormonal system and an unknown number of men are adversely affected by it, some possibly irreversibly. That's how it is, either accept it or continue with these absurd theories about forums causing people's dicks to die.

Chrisis, I am sorry if I offended you man.
Maybe I should be more clear. I never said its all in your head. All I was saying was that being on these forums listening to people tell you about side (alot of them never took the drug) actually does more harm then good. Thats all!! You know best whats happening to you man. I have said it before that there is definitely truth to this persistent sides. But its blow out of proportion. Maybe I am wrong, but thats what I think. And I am basing this on the fact that even the 10yr study failed to find the sort of oersistent sides often mentioned. I think they do exist but are blown way out of proportion.

[chrisis]

I'm gonna be blunt here: you guys actually believe that me visiting this forum has not only affected the sensitivity of my dick and how much I cum, despite the fact I stopped taking finasteride like 6 weeks ago? Gotta say, no other forum has ever had that affect on my dick! In fact, nothing in 28 years has ever had that affect on that part of my body! Maybe they should bottle up the essence of this forum and send it off to be looked at in a laboratory!

On a serious note, you really need to suspend whatever opinion you have about finasteride and think about this. It's nonsense and if you were honest you'd admit it. Finasteride is a drug that alters your hormonal system and an unknown number of men are adversely affected by it, some possibly irreversibly. That's how it is, either accept it or continue with these absurd theories about forums causing people's dicks to die.

[khan]

Look at it this way: There are roughly 500,000 men taking finasteride worldwide. There are 2,224 registered users on Propecia Help forums. For the hell of it, let's double that number to an even 5,000. Let's say there are 5,000 men out there experiencing side effects from this drug. That is still only 1% of all men on it. Bottom line: There are a LOT of men taking this drug. Very few seem to experience side effects.

Again, I am NOT denying that side effects exist -- they clearly do. But there is a very loud minority who is great at perpetuating fear surrounding this drug. Also, chrisis, I don't think it was a great idea for you to be on this forum while being on fin. I would personally never do that. You should try it out again at a smaller dose (try 0.5 mg every other day). Just pop the pill, stay away from hair loss sites, and try to forget that you're on it at all.

Very well said. This is what Spencer has been saying on his show for so long. Its a small subset.
And I definitely agree about staying away from hairloss sites, specially during the first 3 months of using the drug.

[chrisis]

For the hell of it, let's double that number to an even 5,000.

Stop right there.

No one should bet their sexual health on guesswork.

[captainmoon]

The defence that the poll is skewed because people with sexual health problems flock to these forums is weak and desperate. I was using this board before I even started taking finasteride, so chalk me up as an exception to your theory professor!

Men come to this forum because it's called "bald truth talk", i.e. it's about issues pertaining to baldness. It's not called "my dick is broke talk.

Look, those on finasteride without side effects generally won't be spending their days on hair loss forums. They're going to be out living their lives and enjoying their hair. They've essentially found the "answer" to stopping their hair loss and have no real reason to be on here (unless of course they want to discuss MPB anyway, which is fine, but they're not the majority).

Look at it this way: There are roughly 500,000 men taking finasteride worldwide. There are 2,224 registered users on Propecia Help forums. For the hell of it, let's double that number to an even 5,000. Let's say there are 5,000 men out there experiencing side effects from this drug. That is still only 1% of all men on it. Bottom line: There are a LOT of men taking this drug. Very few seem to experience side effects.

Again, I am NOT denying that side effects exist -- they clearly do. But there is a very loud minority who is great at perpetuating fear surrounding this drug. Also, chrisis, I don't think it was a great idea for you to be on this forum while being on fin. I would personally never do that. You should try it out again at a smaller dose (try 0.5 mg every other day). Just pop the pill, stay away from hair loss sites, and try to forget that you're on it at all.

[chrisis]

Here is the study I was referring to although it was actually 6%. Still, nowhere near 0.7% or 2%.

the Japanese study is the largest and most recent study done on the drug.

The study was done on JAPANESE men? Not American or European men, with their rich and diverse genetic heritage, but a largely isolated indigenous population in the far East. Can you spot the flaw in methodology??? If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable.

As for your questions, yes I trust men who continue to post on these forums that they have been affected in similiar ways to me by a drug that works by changing the chemistry of their hormonal system. Seriously, it's not that hard to believe if you actually think about it what the drug is actually doing.