Male Pattern Baldness Cured

[clandestine]

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[VulcanLogic]

Read all of the following.

OK I have read quite a bit of your material and certainly enough to get the gist of your proposition. You are quite correct on one point androgenic alopecia should not be considered a 'desease' nor should it be considered a disease.

As to the rest of your material I would say this is a perfect example of dicto simpliciter (look it up) and a healthy infusion of misinformation.

Your initial preamble (ramblings) are full of inaccuracies, here are a few examples to correct you.

* Not all androgenic alopecia (AA) starts at the temples or crown.

* Not all AA progresses to a full crown (bald head) loss.

* Contrary to 'your' belief science actually knows only a small fraction of the complex mechanism that results in AA.

* We don't know for certain that DHT is the main cause of hair loss, we do know that it appears that DHT is part of the mechanism involved. However even if DHT is integral it could for example be more to do with receptor site rather than DHT.

* We don't know if DHT is excessive in both the scalp and the blood stream in the majority of cases of AA and in fact there is no hard evidence to draw a cause and effect relationship as DHT levels can be identical in those with and those without AA, in fact it could be that the enzyme 5α-reductase is the culprit rather than DHT.

* Other mammals do have plenty of incidences of AA, notably the male Tsavo lions, dogs, macaques, and even our closest primate species the chimpanzee.

* Both the big cats, domesticated cats and host of other species will suffer from alopecia and a host of other health issues related to a nutrient deficient diet.

* We do not know that AA is caused by a hormonal 'in balance' (imbalance) in fact there is very little to support that those with men with AA have significantly different hormonal levels to those without AA.

* Some women do suffer with AA this appears to occur as oestrogen levels decline with age which has lead to the hypothesis that oestrogen has a protective role and as it declines women hair follicles are exposed to DHT leading to AA in a similar way to men. Though I stress this is unproven.

* Logically women and men are not exposed to the same gene pool, as a result of the 'XY' chromosomes vs 'XX', hence the reason we have sex linked diseases.

* There is absolutely no evidence that the prostate is the 'single cause for hair loss' nor have I seen any credible evidence to make such an assumption, the prostate is however regulated by DHT which is synthesized in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands by the enzyme 5α-reductase.

* There is no credible evidence to suggest that ejaculation has anything other than a transitory effect on DHT, in fact if we take your own results on face value your DHT level actually fell below the pre ejaculation level a short time after. And once again I stress that there is no credible evidence that those with AA have significantly different serum DHT levels to those without it.

* There is evidence of a potential increase in both benign prostatic hyperplasia and cancer of the prostate in those with low levels of sexual activity (ejaculation), you may like to think of this as clearing the pipes if you like.

Overwhelmingly the evidence is that AA is a genetically determined outcome, we can see evidence of this all around us in our groups of family and friends. The mere fact that such a high percentage of men will experience AA is sufficient to conclude that it is a natural process that most will experience to a greater or lesser degree.

Whilst we all may like to delay the loss of a youthful appearance lets not lose perspective and engage in silly and potentially unhealthy self abuse.

[Kamui85]

Well, for those interested I would like to clarify that it’s not absolute abstention for six months; but ejaculating 2 to 4 times, between 2 or so days, and then back to another month of abstention and so on.

[clandestine]

Please go masturbate. I say this for concern over your health. Probably not good to abstain for a period of 6 months or longer, you may be hurting yourself. Do some real research. And above all, please ejaculate sometime soon. Thanks.

[Kamui85]

Did you notice any difference in the length or thickness of the hair that's fallen out? I've noticed my length to be the same. Some hairs are thicker, while others thinner. For the most part, it has thinned out.

Much the same also... If I took something out of this maybe its self control, although physically I feel exactly the same as before abstention.

[Bald Dude]

I don’t know if he’ll answer because last time I e-mail him, he told me he was banned. As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended and although I felt like the falling had halted in the second month I’m not so sure right now. Anyway I’m going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos (that would be in February).

Did you notice any difference in the length or thickness of the hair that's fallen out? I've noticed my length to be the same. Some hairs are thicker, while others thinner. For the most part, it has thinned out.

[clandestine]

As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended [...]I’m going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos.

This is hilarious, frankly. You seriously bought into this dude? He's trolling, hard. Go masturbate or something.

[Kamui85]

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I don’t know if he’ll answer because last time I e-mail him, he told me he was banned. As for me, today I reach my fourth month of abstention. I been doing everything he recommended and although I felt like the falling had halted in the second month I’m not so sure right now. Anyway I’m going to keep this going till I reach the sixth month to compare before and after photos (that would be in February).

[Bald Dude]

its about 2 months since, any updates on real pictures of progress?

[BackwardsBalding]

Should I PM you? Or what not? i'm just trying to find more hope and support in pics. thats all.

just email me *****************************, baldingbackwards at hotmail dot com.

I have some really good pics but I really didn't see any big improvments on the growing back untill improving laxity of the scalp. I can explain this better if you email me a picture with your eyebrows lifted up so i can see how loose your hair line skin is.

[RegainingHealth]

I would recommend Simon Levay's 'The Science of Sexual Orientation' IF you showed to be an intelligent individual, but since you’re just a Christian Neanderthal go read some ancient fantasy story!

You animal. Actually lower than an animal! I told you I wasn't a Christian. I won't read that book, only because you've misunderstood sexuality. If I read the book I would refute all the BULLSHIT that was in it because that's all it is; a bunch of man made BS. FYI i'm an intelligent individual, not like you who believes homosexuality is all due to 'hormones'.

Now its official this forum/thread is hijacked by trolls.

First of all they call themselves Bro all the time, strangly no one else does. Also those NEWLY registered posters are of course only in this whole masturbation thing RIGHT.

Of course i am agressive when i see such Bullshit performed by morons. If i would be the admin here, this thread would be locked, and everyone involved get a free time card.

I mean whats next? Racisms towards other people like " If you breath the air a balding afro american has, you get bald because thats what God said"

I hereby say on the behalf of all people with an intact brain **** YOU and your stupid useless non proven threads and claims which are Bullshit

LMFAO. You're such a retard. So i'm a troll because I keep saying bro? Just go back to your cellar and wank off to the baldy in Star Trek.

If I had my own court, judge and jury, i'd sit back and let history tell the story and then have you locked up you IDIOT.

You wankers are dumb, you've never thought why people are making a connection between the two subjects; it's all over the web. You just can't accept it.

Honestly I LOL'd at your post. Baldy

[Bald Dude]

Yes but it takes time to see witht the naked eye a few more months and I will have some great before afters that I would be willing to email individuals.

Should I PM you? Or what not? i'm just trying to find more hope and support in pics. thats all.

[Zoidberg]

LOL, I found the thread quite entertaining too... blatant false accounts and funny banter with it.
But not completely useless, I researched the zinc issue and it does seem that you can deplete zinc if you overdo things... so just remember to add a zinc capsule to your diet to avoid any thinning hair!
In a "full load" the zinc level is about 135±40 micrograms/ml for healthy men*, so consider a potentially big 10ml load to be .175x10= 1.75mg of zinc.
Minimum loads would be a carefree 2ml resuling in .095 x 2= .19mg of zinc
This could possibly be significant if you are not supplementing and at it like a mad man lol

*according to Wikipedia

[krewel]

This thread made my day. It's so stupid that I find it funny again. Hairloss cured by stopping mastrubating, epic. We would have way other problems than hairloss if mastrubating would raise DHT-levels significantly..

close this thread, please. It's nonsense.

[RichardDawkins]

Now its official this forum/thread is hijacked by trolls.

First of all they call themselves Bro all the time, strangly no one else does. Also those NEWLY registered posters are of course only in this whole masturbation thing RIGHT.

Of course i am agressive when i see such Bullshit performed by morons. If i would be the admin here, this thread would be locked, and everyone involved get a free time card.

I mean whats next? Racisms towards other people like " If you breath the air a balding afro american has, you get bald because thats what God said"

I hereby say on the behalf of all people with an intact brain **** YOU and your stupid useless non proven threads and claims which are Bullshit