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  • doke
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1464

    The lady that asked about dht blockers for woman i have heard that propecia has been presribed to some and that it can help with minox as well in combo.
    As to the Latisse hair loss trials hair was regrown back on stumptail monkeys as they and other species suffer mpb.
    This thread seems to go on and as to the mas causes hair loss i do not think so,although in semen there is a lot of zinc and that combined with sea kelp and minox i was at six months getting some hair regrowth.
    Its worth taking 15mgs a day of zinc+some 400mgs two a day of kelp tablets which are quite cheap and combine with topical minox and propecia for at least six to twelve months.

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    • doke
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1464

      By the way we all swear and get angry with people,i do not think it is a good idea to do this to posters on the bald truth forum and many forums have mods to stop this,we are lucky here that you can say things so lets stop the swearing please?

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      • auglen
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 41

        While not directly related I'm posting a study that I know some of you would be interested in.

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        • JV3
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 3

          Please read this if you are concerned about finasteride/propecia/proscar side effects

          I was on Proscar for only two months and it has DESTROYED my life. The side effects came upon me after only a week of use and, after having been off the drug for months, they have not subsided but have STEADILY GROWN WORSE! This is NOT "just in my head" as I wasn't even aware of the possible side effects until I lost all sexual desire and was unable to get an erection. They have discovered as of last Match that the side effects are likely permanent for a percentage of men who take the drug. If you don't believe me go here: http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/

          BEWARE OF FINASTERIDE IN ANY FORM YOU MAY BE TRADING YOUR LIFE FOR HAIR REGROWTH IT IS NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!

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          • doke
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1464

            Well i have tried finasteride and dutasteride and it was the latter that did not regrow any hair and made the sides you talk of with me.
            But i have returned to 2mg a day proscar or finas as its called and i have no problems that you have with it,so it seems we are all different as to sides.

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            • crowningglory
              Inactive
              • Feb 2011
              • 52

              Originally posted by JV3
              I was on Proscar for only two months and it has DESTROYED my life. The side effects came upon me after only a week of use and, after having been off the drug for months, they have not subsided but have STEADILY GROWN WORSE! This is NOT "just in my head" as I wasn't even aware of the possible side effects until I lost all sexual desire and was unable to get an erection. They have discovered as of last Match that the side effects are likely permanent for a percentage of men who take the drug. If you don't believe me go here: http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/

              BEWARE OF FINASTERIDE IN ANY FORM YOU MAY BE TRADING YOUR LIFE FOR HAIR REGROWTH IT IS NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!
              Agreed! this is why i switched to trx2 with good results so far

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              • HairTalk
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 252

                Originally posted by crowningglory
                Agreed! this is why i switched to trx2 with good results so far
                ...Really?

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  Definition of cure:

                  Eliminate (a disease or condition) with medical treatment:


                  Originally posted by top
                  This is probably a language issue (I'm assuming English is not the OP's first language), and depends on one's definition of a 'cure'.
                  Sorry but what other language would cure mean .... "not a cure, but slightly a cure?" lol.

                  Are you rewriting the dictionary here? How many copies do you plan to sell?....

                  Originally posted by top
                  I'm not going by the title of the thread, just by the content/ideas in it. Whatever you want to call it, if someone tells you to do these specific exercises, consume these nutrients, and don't do too much of these exercises, or consume too much of this type of food, and your problem will go away, or drastically reduce, as much if not more so than taking a drug..
                  Your problem might go away or be prevented, but that's a long distance from a cure lol - intensive exercise may make a fat person light but it wont cure the genetic timebomb that has their destiny lined up with cancer, heart disease or a stroke.

                  Originally posted by top
                  I'm not going to suddenly say to them, "Sorry, but since your regime doesn't come with a pill, I'm not going to follow it to sort my problem out"..
                  See why did you use the word "sort" in that statement? I think your subconscious mind actually realised how stupid the original statement by the OP was, your conscious mind however is still tied up in this pointless debate, trying desperately to string together a coherent point, however the strings are tied here, clearly; you are wrong.

                  - if your subconscious mind actually believed in the OP's comment, you would have used the term "cure" in-place of "sort"... lol

                  Are you suggesting that smoking DOES NOT cause lung cancer?
                  LOL heavens no.

                  Your argument is saying, "I'm gonna pick up a gun and shoot myself in the face, because guns are not the only thing that kill people. There is a link between death and knives".
                  I hope you now understand this whole "conversation" boils down to the OP's use of the word "cure" and your purposefully imposed disparity of it's actual meaning is truly laughable. Whether you are perpetuating this idiocy as some sort of plan to prove yourself here, or whether you simply lack a basic understanding of herbal/natural medicine - I honestly don't know, your last post indicates the former but I also believe the latter to be true.

                  If we take a dictionary, we know exactly what cure means, even if we take a dictionary from every language on the planet it means the same thing, now when we take that definition into the context of this conversation, we know the OP's statement is entirely false.

                  I was merely pointing this out.

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                  • RichardDawkins
                    Inactive
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 895

                    Its funny, people think about masturbation and sudokus while Dr Cooley transplanted a huge amount of plucked hairs which grow..... Man this is a crazy and stupid world

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                    • top
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 28

                      Look up the definition of Pedantic

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                      • UK_
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2691

                        Originally posted by top
                        Look up the definition of Pedantic
                        I am fully aware of the definition of the word pedantic, to call me pedantic in this context is to allow you to bend the rules of the english language to your benefit, sorry, you were wrong from the outset, you're wrong now.

                        Hows your controlled anti-wanking study going by the way?

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                        • mothernature
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 134

                          Originally posted by BaldingBackwards
                          Top,

                          I wanted to clarify what is happening at the top of your head that is allowing DHT to build-up in the follicle. Also I will tell you all why the man started balding at 40 worse then earlier years with decreased sexual activity and why these two things really go hand and hand. The key to DHT being able to bind to the dermal papilla and collect over time is decreased blood flow. This is why you do not experience male pattern baldness anywhere else on your body because the blood flow will simply not allow it. If you drop a leaf in a current it will flow away if you drop a leaf on a small stream that is barely moving it will get stuck. TOP, it is very important you understand the variety of one persons arteries in there head to the next which easily explains why balding patterns vary so much but all end the same way if they go all the way through the Norwood diagram. Equally important is to understand what happens to arteries as they get closer to the ends at the top of your head which are predetermined at birth, those arteries get smaller and smaller closer to the ends. Its also important to understand the benefits of increased blood flow for your hair a good example of this is the high number of athletes who have better heads of hair then not active couch potatoes. However, if DHT is slightly sticking to the dermal papilla and you just keep adding more blood flow simply can not keep up. I found one study that measured blood flow to the head and they found a huge reduction over the years as people age. This is why with normal circulating levels of DHT you will still experience MPB as you get older because your circulation simply can not keep up without something increasing it. For humans it's almost unavoidable for blood flow to decrease to the head without preventative measures. With life becoming physically easier and easier some people can manage not even to bend over to pick anything up for years added in with no physical exercise what do you think is going happen? You think your head which is sitting on the only body walking vertical on two feet directly above the heart will just pump harder as you get older against gravity with no physical exercise or anything to increase it? Just bend over for one second or get on all four like any animal you will see what gravity does to your blood flow.




                          ONCE AGAIN THIS IS THE OP SPEAKING ORIGINAL ACCOUNT STILL IS BLOCKED SO I AM FORCED TO POST ON THIS ACCOUNT. IF THE ADMIN COULD VARIFY THIS IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          then why isnt the cure to add topical vasodilators to the scalp? This would dilate the arteries increasing the blood flow to the scalp according to your theory will flush DHT away and therefore regression of MPB. Minoxidil is a known vasodilator yet does not halt MPB. People who do scalp excercises have not shown any decent results. I think your being a little optimistic in this entire thread

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2691

                            ....a little? lol

                            Perhaps like us, the admin doesn't wish to hear about bogus methods to stop hair loss... lmfao@ "flush out DHT"... as if it gets stuck in the follicles or something.

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                            • Kamui85
                              Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 40

                              Originally posted by mothernature
                              then why isnt the cure to add topical vasodilators to the scalp? This would dilate the arteries increasing the blood flow to the scalp according to your theory will flush DHT away and therefore regression of MPB. Minoxidil is a known vasodilator yet does not halt MPB. People who do scalp excercises have not shown any decent results. I think your being a little optimistic in this entire thread
                              Yes but according to him, it would have to be increased blood flow PLUS abstinence, since ejaculation makes DHT peak, as he showed with his test results.

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                              • mothernature
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 134

                                Originally posted by Kamui85
                                Yes but according to him, it would have to be increased blood flow PLUS abstinence, since ejaculation makes DHT peak, as he showed with his test results.
                                oh right, and the top guy showed how even thinking about sex or watching porn increases test by alot. So cant even look at girls. I'm actually going 3 weeks strong

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