GOD NO!!!! Hairdx response test came back

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

I tested "negative" for the short allele CAG>22


I have a CAG allele of 27

according to their literature i have a "70% change of only a SLIGHT response to finisteride"



its one worst thing after another in my life. First I lose my job, now this sh**

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

I've been on propecia for a year and it did nothing.

Currently, I am on both propecia and avodart. I dont care about the side affects of combining them. But let me tell you, they do nothing. My hair continues to fall out at a constant rate.

I count 20-25 in the shower daily.

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

my blood DHT is 14 low (normal is 25-75)

[Refuse2GoBald]

Most doctor's would say that it is normal to lose up to 100 hairs a day, even if you are not going bald. I would say that losing 20-25 hairs in the shower is below the average amount that someone loses.

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

Most doctor's would say that it is normal to lose up to 100 hairs a day, even if you are not going bald. I would say that losing 20-25 hairs in the shower is below the average amount that someone loses.

I really dont believe in the 100 day hair loss. If this was true, my whole house would be filled with hair every where as I live with 7 people!! I lose 25 in the shower...this is what I count on my hands when shampooing my hair for 5 minutes. I lose 2 more when combing my hair afterwards, and maybe 3 more when first wetting my hair. So 30 that I count total.........I doubt there is another 70 that I lost out there to make a 100, because believe me, I'm very vigilant when I lose some hair and I would def have noticed losing 70 more hairs.


My rule of thumb for everyone: If your losing less than 10 hairs in the shower, your golden. Any more, I would worry like crazy.

[KeepTheHair]

You can always add something like fluridil/spironolactone to your regimen. It really should do a lot of good.

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

You can always add something like fluridil/spironolactone to your regimen. It really should do a lot of good.

Ok just bought 2 boxes. Hopefully I will see results in the next 2 months. I'm so desperate.

[KeepTheHair]

I'd be wise not to jump into any medication that fast but yeah... I use it and it's great in my opinion. My shedding is very low and my hair looks decent.


If you have a finasteride + fluridil regimen you should have good results. An unlucky minority might not get sufficient results with finasteride alone.

Let us know how it goes, though 2 months is probably not enough to judge.

[ThinFast]

Hair DX test results are damn near meaningless

I've posted this in a thread before, but don't get too worked up about the results. I got mine done last year, I was positive for the short allele and my CAG score was 19. After a year of propecia and over a year of varied amounts of avodart (.5mg up to 2.5mg per day), guess what? Nothing worked. My hair loss has continued at an extremely fast rate and I'm down to minimal coverage in the crown. Actually you can see through what's left of my hair now, my scalp is just not totally barren. Still, DX test results suggest that those medications would have a great effect on me. I quote, "A man that tested positive for the "SHORT" CAG allele of the AR gene had approximately a 70% chance of great response (ie. hair re-growth) using 1 mg daily dosage of Finasteride for 48 weeks."

As I wrote before, it's a waste of money. Maybe they do indicate whether or not your receptors react well with decreased dht, however if you have 10 receptors per follicle vs. 1 receptor, it's still going to be too much for any dht inhibitor to counter. That's just one other factor that the DX test does not account for.

[imbaldinglikeamofo]

My hair loss has continued at an extremely fast rate and I'm down to minimal coverage in the crown. Actually you can see through what's left of my hair now, my scalp is just not totally barren.

Like the rate my hair falling out now...that exactly what I'm predicting!! 1 year from now I will be considered bald. I'm so incredibly desperate right now, that I'm willing to try anything to stop it. Please, if you have any tips send it my way. I need something extraordinary that will hit it hard. I'm currently on BOTH finesteride and dutas. I just started minox 2% and building by way up to 5%.

[ThinFast]

I'm sorry, but I don't have any positive results to report to you. Here's everything I've tried.

Propecia 1mg/day for 1 year
Avodart - .5mg-2.5mg/day varied over 18 consecutive months
5% Rogaine foam for 8 months
Laser for 6 months
Dr. Lee's ******* 15% plus (at night) and minoxidil 6% plus (during the day) for 10 months
Dr. Lee's regrowth shampoo every other day, every other day Nioxin System 2cleanser with system 2 scalp therapy (conditioner everyday) for 18 months
Vitamin D 1000 IU/day (I'm low on Vitamin D and this more or less helps support that defficiency)
Biotin 5000mcg/day for 3 months
and a few months ago PRP w/protein matrix (Greco)

I first started to notice some hair loss around my 28th birthday, I'll be 31 in 4 weeks. My hair was fairly full and thicker when I first noticed it, so I definitely caught it early enough to have some sort of a chance to fight it, but nothing has worked.

I just deal with it now. I'm not happy about it, but truthfully I've learned to accept it for the most part. Sure, there are days that I get pissed off and declare I'm not done fighting it! Just 18 months ago I was in Vegas and girls would come up to me and tell me how hot I was and how cool my hair was. I remember looking over at my buddy and saying, "yeah, for now, give me a year". Right now though, the right "weapons" just aren't out there to fight this. So what do you do?

You prepare yourself on a couple of different fronts. First, you must realize that having hair on your head does not define who you are. Whether or not I have truly accomplished this, I really don't know. Maybe I'm lying to myself to the point that I actually believe that. Either way, it does relieve stress from my life. Again, this fluctuates for me at times.

Second, I'm kicking ass at work, getting promoted up the ladder quickly so that when something new and very promising does come out to treat hair loss, my ass is liquid enough to do something about it. And I do believe that with all of the R&D happening, we're close to getting something way beyond anything that's currently out there. Nothing else has worked for me, so really what are my options?

So I'll just say, hang in there man. I know it's rough, but no matter how you look at it, it's not the end.

[kanyon]

Hey ThinFast how do you wear your hair now? Did you shave your head?

Have you considered a transplant?

I think I will end up getting a transplant in 4 or 5 months.

[ThinFast]

Kanyon, I still wear hair my hair the same way as I did before I noticed I was losing it. Kind of combed/blown forward with the front spiked up. I haven't shaved it yet, although I go week to week on that decisison. I began using this nick chavez hair plumpening spray that makes it look much more full, along with some toppik when I feel I need it. I'm not trying to pass my hair off as completely full, but more of the appearance that I've just had some minor loss.

I really don't consider a transplant a viable option. First reason is because I can't retain anything that I have, so I figure that by the time transplanted hair grows in, I'll be needing another to fill in a new area. The second and main reason is because I believe the my loss will eventually be too great. I base this off of how my uncles on my mom's side look as I seem to resemble them more than my dad's side who still have all of their hair now into their 50's. I also base it off of the thinning areas I've seen on my own. My hair loss is diffuse but has courteously given away the outline of horse shoe it is hastily carving into my dome. Based on those 2 reasons, I feel there will not be enough hair left for any transplant to meet my expectations.