0.3mg Finasteride, & 1mg Melanotan II no side effects

[lovechoo]

This is my first time post, and i wanted to share my experiences with Finasteride.

I started taking Finasteride 1mg 5 days a week 2 years ago, within 1 month i had problems getting an erection, an literaly no sexual drive! this was very worrying since i was only 25 at the time.

6 Months ago after noticing my hair beginning to really thin i decided to start taking it again at a much lower dose (0.33mg), at first i didn't notice any side effects but after 2 months i did notice less sexual drive and some erectile problems.

I had previously taken Melanotan II (the barbie doll drug) to give me a nice tan and the side effects of that drug is spontaneous erections and increased libido, (as well as a glowing tan).

So i stated taking Melanotan II with the Finasteride, to offset the side effects, and it seams to be working, My libido is throught the roof, i have an permeant semi everyday, and rock hard erections.

Its been 6 months now and my hair is looking alot better too

I am taking 0.33mg Fin 5 days an weeks for 3 weeks, then 1 week off, and 1mg Melanotan II every other day for 3 weeks an 1 weeks off.

I am not a doctor and i dont have any medical training! and i am not sure of the long term effects are of combining these 2 drugs however i am very pleased with the results so far

[diffuseloser]

Do you inject this shit or can you buy it in pill form? Do you think you would have sides without taking melanotan?

[lovechoo]

I injected it using a small insulin needle, about 5mm under the skin, however you can get it as a nasal spray, but its less effective.

And defiantly!! without it i struggle having sex, but when taking melanotan, and sorry to sound blunt but im horny as F**k,

Melanotan was orginaly developed as an erectile dysfunction drug, the side effects are the tanning.

[35YrsAfter]

This is my first time post, and i wanted to share my experiences with Finasteride.

I started taking Finasteride 1mg 5 days a week 2 years ago, within 1 month i had problems getting an erection, an literaly no sexual drive! this was very worrying since i was only 25 at the time.

6 Months ago after noticing my hair beginning to really thin i decided to start taking it again at a much lower dose (0.33mg), at first i didn't notice any side effects but after 2 months i did notice less sexual drive and some erectile problems.

I had previously taken Melanotan II (the barbie doll drug) to give me a nice tan and the side effects of that drug is spontaneous erections and increased libido, (as well as a glowing tan).

So i stated taking Melanotan II with the Finasteride, to offset the side effects, and it seams to be working, My libido is throught the roof, i have an permeant semi everyday, and rock hard erections.

Its been 6 months now and my hair is looking alot better too

I am taking 0.33mg Fin 5 days an weeks for 3 weeks, then 1 week off, and 1mg Melanotan II every other day for 3 weeks an 1 weeks off.

I am not a doctor and i dont have any medical training! and i am not sure of the long term effects are of combining these 2 drugs however i am very pleased with the results so far

A good tan can improve the appearance of hair density. Sounds like you may have found a winning combination. Now hopefully, Melanotan II won't decrease the effectiveness of finasteride. Is Melanotan II expensive? From what I've read it's an injectable. Do you have any photos to post?

Thanks for posting by the way. Adds value to the forum.

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[lovechoo]

I dont think the MT2 is interfering with the FIN as my hair looks thicker but also feels thicker too , i will try and post some pic's in the next few days,

I pay £20.50 ($30) for 10mg so its not too expensive.

Like is said in my OP im not sure how these to drugs will react together but results are excellent!!

Forgot to add to also you should be aware off is hair color changes, this is a side effect of the increase Melanin in you system, my stuble has changed from brown to jet black also my hair color is starting to change from light brown to jet black.

[35YrsAfter]

Forgot to add to also you should be aware off is hair color changes, this is a side effect of the increase Melanin in you system, my stuble has changed from brown to jet black also my hair color is starting to change from light brown to jet black.

When I was preteen, my hair was a very dark brown, nearly black. As hair miniaturization developed due to MPB, my hair color changed to a medium brown.

Wonder if Melanotan II can do anything for gray hair?

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[Illusion]

The FDA advises against using Melanotan II as it has not been approved for use in humans. But ofcourse, on forums like these we don't care that much about things like that . But I don't really know, battling the side effect of a drug with the side effect of another drug never seems like a good idea to me. I've read a few things about melanotan II (what's the difference between I and II anyway?) but I didn't come across something very negative besides a few links that stated that some users developped rapidly growing moles, which might or might not have been skin cancer. But that information was not everywhere, so who knows...

[35YrsAfter]

The FDA advises against using Melanotan II as it has not been approved for use in humans. But ofcourse, on forums like these we don't care that much about things like that . But I don't really know, battling the side effect of a drug with the side effect of another drug never seems like a good idea to me. I've read a few things about melanotan II (what's the difference between I and II anyway?) but I didn't come across something very negative besides a few links that stated that some users developped rapidly growing moles, which might or might not have been skin cancer. But that information was not everywhere, so who knows...

Excellent post. An American Website, gencopeptide.com sells Melanotan II. One would think this is going to eventually attract the attention of the FDA.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
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[Illusion]

Excellent post. An American Website, gencopeptide.com sells Melanotan II. One would think this is going to eventually attract the attention of the FDA.

I don't know, I wouldn't count on it... Here's why:

A pilot Phase I clinical trial conducted on three males by the College of Medicine, Pharmacology Department, University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona published in 1996 reported that, "Melanotan II has tanning activity in humans given only 5 low doses every other day by subcutaneous injection." The side effects reported were mild nausea and a "stretching and yawning complex" that correlated with spontaneous penile erections.[12] In addition to this, "tanning-in" of cuts, bruises and other skin damage has also been reported by some users in online bodybuilding forums.[13][14][unreliable source?]

The Department of Pharmacology, University of Arizona College of Medicine published a study in 1998 that involved ten men who suffered from psychogenic erectile dysfunction. Their trial concluded that, "Melanotan-II is a potent initiator of erections in men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction and has manageable side effects at a dose of 0.025 mg./kg." [15]

A clinical study published in 2000 of 20 men with psychogenic and organic erectile dysfunction conducted at the Section of Urology of The University of Arizona College of Medicine concluded, "that Melanotan II is a potent initiator of penile erection in men with erectile dysfunction." [16]


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II


Do you see those dates? Those studies took place a pretty long time ago and while I'm sure there are more studies that have been done on this subject, I think these studies are the most important ones. The fact that it has been a while since these studies were performed, is telling me that the interest from companies (or at least from those that are trying to seek FDA-approval for melanotan II) has died.


But who knows, my source probably sucks anyway (wikipedia in this case... lol)

[Illusion]

Melanotan was orginaly developed as an erectile dysfunction drug, the side effects are the tanning.

This is actually not true I believe. Melanotan appears to be originally developped as a drug to reduce the rate of skin cancer in humans. Researchers thought that they could let the skin produce a protective tan before being exposed to UV light (the sun).

[Justinian]

I know a lot about Melanotan so if people have questions I can probably answer it.

There is Melanotan I and II. II is more potent and is the one most commonly used because it is more expensive to achieve the same effect. If somebody just says "Melanotan" they probably mean II.

They were both originally developed to prevent skin cancer. Melanotan II only underwent a few clinical trials, but Melanotan I has underwent many and was just approved (in implant form) for use in Europe for a rare skin disease called EPP (Italy and Switzerland have actually had it approved for several years now). It's called Scenesse if you want to google it. The trials have shown that it is safe with minimal side effects. The most serious side effect may be that it darkens moles, which is a sign of melanoma. This is just correlation and it has not been proven to cause or prevent melanoma in vivo, although research points to it preventing it. There is tons of research pointing to it having benefits other than increased protection from the sun, such as being an anti-inflammatory.

[NeedHairASAP]

I don't know, I wouldn't count on it... Here's why:

A pilot Phase I clinical trial conducted on three males by the College of Medicine, Pharmacology Department, University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona published in 1996 reported that, "Melanotan II has tanning activity in humans given only 5 low doses every other day by subcutaneous injection." The side effects reported were mild nausea and a "stretching and yawning complex" that correlated with spontaneous penile erections.[12] In addition to this, "tanning-in" of cuts, bruises and other skin damage has also been reported by some users in online bodybuilding forums.[13][14][unreliable source?]

The Department of Pharmacology, University of Arizona College of Medicine published a study in 1998 that involved ten men who suffered from psychogenic erectile dysfunction. Their trial concluded that, "Melanotan-II is a potent initiator of erections in men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction and has manageable side effects at a dose of 0.025 mg./kg." [15]

A clinical study published in 2000 of 20 men with psychogenic and organic erectile dysfunction conducted at the Section of Urology of The University of Arizona College of Medicine concluded, "that Melanotan II is a potent initiator of penile erection in men with erectile dysfunction." [16]


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II


Do you see those dates? Those studies took place a pretty long time ago and while I'm sure there are more studies that have been done on this subject, I think these studies are the most important ones. The fact that it has been a while since these studies were performed, is telling me that the interest from companies (or at least from those that are trying to seek FDA-approval for melanotan II) has died.


But who knows, my source probably sucks anyway (wikipedia in this case... lol)

I e-mailed one of the AU researchers. He seemed to say its not under patent anymore, and he wasn't sure why nobody ever moved forward with it.

At this point, my guess is that with no patent, nobody wants to be the guy paying for clinical trials while others wait to just sell it when you're done paying for them.

Is it possible to crowdfund a clinical trial for melatonin II?

[Huckfinn]

Hi Justinian,
Do you have any more info concerning a possible correlation between Melanotan 2 and hair loss?
Thanks!
H.

[Not giving up]

If melatonin is an anti-inflammatory is that not a good thing? The MPB itch and burn is commonly considered an inflammatory response of DHT attacking the hair follicle. Isn't that the whole point behind topical certizine and similar approaches?

I could be way off with that but hey, if if it gives you a tan and counteracts the boner problems of fin then that can only be a good thing right?

[Not giving up]

If melatonin is an anti-inflammatory is that not a good thing? The MPB itch and burn is commonly considered an inflammatory response of DHT attacking the hair follicle. Isn't that the whole point behind topical certizine and similar approaches?

I could be way off with that but hey, if if it gives you a tan and counteracts the boner problems of fin then that can only be a good thing right?