Hasson & Wong now prescribing topical Finasteride

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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    #16
    Thanks for the reply Joe. I wonder if they are reaching a compromise between the direct affect from using the drug topically, with minimal amounts reaching the blood stream where it's still beneficial for the patient.

    Or if the patients that have tried it all had placebo sides from it orally.

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    • luckyman70
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 11

      #17
      H, i with your experience at H&S , Do you find that topical works better than oral in most cases? I don't have any sides, but oral is losing effectiveness after over 15 years on it.

      Thanks again, for all your good work

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      • JoeTillman
        Moderator
        • Jul 2014
        • 1166

        #18
        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        Thanks for the reply Joe. I wonder if they are reaching a compromise between the direct affect from using the drug topically, with minimal amounts reaching the blood stream where it's still beneficial for the patient.

        Or if the patients that have tried it all had placebo sides from it orally.
        FTL,
        I think it was determined that indeed less medication is getting to the target areas of the scalp compared to what would be delivered orally but enough of it is apparently getting through to make a positive impact. I can't speak to the number of patients that had side effects for whatever reason. They all had them and I'm certain some were real.
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        • JoeTillman
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          • Jul 2014
          • 1166

          #19
          Originally posted by luckyman70
          H, i with your experience at H&S , Do you find that topical works better than oral in most cases? I don't have any sides, but oral is losing effectiveness after over 15 years on it.

          Thanks again, for all your good work
          For fighting hair loss? I would say no because you are getting more medication overall and the amount that the body metabolizes is constant. With any topical, no matter how exacting the dosages are, some will be wasted during delivery so the consistency I think would not be as reliable but no doubt it works. I think overall it is best to use oral, if anything, because it is easy and convenient and I feel it works best. The topical should be considered ONLY if one cannot work out the sides from the oral version.

          If you feel that the effects are wearing off, I have to ask if you have ever switched to and still using the generic? If you have/are, switch back to name brand and give that a go. If not, talk to your doctor about upping your dosage. There is evidence that results are dose dependant.
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          • Seuxin
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 223

            #20
            Originally posted by JoeTillman
            FTL,
            I think it was determined that indeed less medication is getting to the target areas of the scalp compared to what would be delivered orally but enough of it is apparently getting through to make a positive impact. I can't speak to the number of patients that had side effects for whatever reason. They all had them and I'm certain some were real.
            SO, you are telling that users who used this topical finasterid have side effects ???
            I hope we will have soon an other topical fina with a better price ! Because 60-65$ /days is high !

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            • burtandernie
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1563

              #21
              Why does merck not just reformulate finasteride as topical and sell it OTC? I mean they already have the drug,patent, and FDA approval practically since nothing is different but the vehicle. Seems silly. If they reformulate it as topical they get a new patent and men get the safer topical version. Makes no sense to me. It could probably be OTC because it probably has the same sides as propecia which isnt that much and the drug been around for like 30 years

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              • warner8
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 350

                #22
                I'm sure if merck could make a topical and make millions of desperate bald men they would, but there must be something to it that has prevented them.

                Originally posted by burtandernie
                Why does merck not just reformulate finasteride as topical and sell it OTC? I mean they already have the drug,patent, and FDA approval practically since nothing is different but the vehicle. Seems silly. If they reformulate it as topical they get a new patent and men get the safer topical version. Makes no sense to me. It could probably be OTC because it probably has the same sides as propecia which isnt that much and the drug been around for like 30 years

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                • burtandernie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1563

                  #23
                  Yeah or just poor sales of propecia in general makes it not worth doing. If they wanted to do it bad enough believe me they would get it done. Things are heating up though in the hair loss field so that might play into it as well. I wouldnt want to waste a lot of money making topical fin when CB or something else could be out in a few years rendering it pretty useless.

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                  • nohawk
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 13

                    #24
                    Why are people not talking about this... There are tons of people respond great to Fin but experience terrible side effects. If this is legit and it works with almost no sides, then it is by far the best thing we have; better than buying blackmarket CB, RU, massaging, poking, lasers, etc. Sooooo I don't get it: why is "I put Diane35 birth control on my head" a more active thread than "Fin without sides now available"...

                    Also, is H&W working towards eventually selling this without us having to go to Canada or what? How long is the merck patent going to control this unfortunate situation, I thought the patent expired already.

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                    • efedrez
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 168

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nohawk
                      Why are people not talking about this... There are tons of people respond great to Fin but experience terrible side effects. If this is legit and it works with almost no sides, then it is by far the best thing we have; better than buying blackmarket CB, RU, massaging, poking, lasers, etc. Sooooo I don't get it: why is "I put Diane35 birth control on my head" a more active thread than "Fin without sides now available"...

                      Also, is H&W working towards eventually selling this without us having to go to Canada or what? How long is the merck patent going to control this unfortunate situation, I thought the patent expired already.
                      It might be because it's very hard to buy it, if I could get some either online or without having to go to Canada I'll be more than willing to give it a try

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                      • warner8
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 350

                        #26
                        hanson and wong is probably like every other hairless company, trying to make money off desperate balding men. I'm sure if fin could be made into an effective topical and sold commercially at your local big chain pharmacy like reogaine, then it would be, but it has not.

                        now you can get a compounding pharmacy to make a topical fin for you like murray avenue apothecary in Pittsburgh PA, so you don't have to go to canada for what might just be some snake oil. hanson and wong asks compound pharmacists to make topical fin formulations for them, and then charge you double bc they are the middle man.

                        i think fin works best from within the body,and topical might be waste. those who i know using topical still take the oral form, bc no one is taking chances



                        Originally posted by efedrez
                        It might be because it's very hard to buy it, if I could get some either online or without having to go to Canada I'll be more than willing to give it a try

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                        • Seuxin
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 223

                          #27
                          Hello,

                          The problem is really we don't know if topical fina @ 2.5% in a liposomal cream has a good and real effect on hairs....

                          Fina is not a dht inhibitor...but a 5AR inhibitor....
                          It's the real problem, no ???

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                          • robodoc
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 199

                            #28
                            Without question the effects of Finasteride are dose dependent. Take 10mg a day and your hair will stop falling out and start to grow back but.............there are significant side effects so I would not recommend taking 10mg daily.

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                            • Blackrose
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 7

                              #29
                              H&W Topical Finastride

                              I have been taking Dr. Hassons topical Finastride for a month.

                              I spoke with him for an hour about this product. The cream has nano-silica particles that prevent systemic absorption. A minor amount gets absorbed which is 1/18 according to him. I had been on finastride years ago and I noticed side effects. With this cream I have not noticed any side effects yet. I am planning on testing my Serum level DHT soon but I highly doubt it will be much different. I haven't noticed major changes in hair growth yet but one month is too early. I am wondering if the cream is able to reach the hair follicle.

                              I will keep updating here as time goes by. Interested in hearing results from others on this cream. Currently I'm not taking an oral dose but I may add that if things dont change soon.

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                              • hyong
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 5

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blackrose
                                I have been taking Dr. Hassons topical Finastride for a month.

                                I spoke with him for an hour about this product. The cream has nano-silica particles that prevent systemic absorption. A minor amount gets absorbed which is 1/18 according to him. I had been on finastride years ago and I noticed side effects. With this cream I have not noticed any side effects yet. I am planning on testing my Serum level DHT soon but I highly doubt it will be much different. I haven't noticed major changes in hair growth yet but one month is too early. I am wondering if the cream is able to reach the hair follicle.

                                I will keep updating here as time goes by. Interested in hearing results from others on this cream. Currently I'm not taking an oral dose but I may add that if things dont change soon.


                                hi!!,
                                are you in vancouver?
                                i emailed the clinic but they told me they would only prescribe to their own patients, is this true?!

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