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[Jcm800]

I'm thinking the best way for me to decide whether to take Fin or not is to buzz my hair, see if i like my look that way. If not, i'll take it and run the risks, if i like the buzzed look, then i'll leave the forum for some time.


...second thoughts i know ill look a tit with a buzzed head, damn it.

[UK_]

I'm thinking the best way for me to decide whether to take Fin or not is to buzz my hair, see if i like my look that way. If not, i'll take it and run the risks, if i like the buzzed look, then i'll leave the forum for some time.


...second thoughts i know ill look a tit with a buzzed head, damn it.

I hate to say it JCM, but we dont have a choice in the matter - we're going to go bald - I think after reading about how 5AR maintains the elasticity and repair of motor neurons in the spine I'm going to run a God damn mile from Finasteride.

Seriously, screw it, to hell with it - I think the reason people end up with erectile dysfunction has more to do with the central nervous system than just a decline in testosterone after using propecia. We all know how long nerves take to recover (1- 2 years) - it's also a similar timeframe for finasteride syndrome to partially recover.

The thing is, if they can find out a way to prevent/cure the horrid side effects of finasteride we could have a solid treatment for hair loss.

No matter what way anyone wants to look at it, the PFS foundation is working in the favor of people suffering from hair loss and those suffering from post finasteride syndrome.

http://www.pfsfoundation.org/

[Jcm800]

You're right UK, it's too damn dangerous. But having said that, why do many men benefit and appear to get away with side effects, someone like Spex for example?

It's all too confusing and frustrating, the more I read, like yourself the more I feel I should deal with what I've got without Fin.

My delivery is due today, what an arse.

Hope the pfs foundation gets a lot of support, and can make headway into finding reasons and cures for people with sides. I'd be more wiling to take it if their was a safety net in place.

[UK_]

The symptoms mostly manifest days or weeks after the drug is discontinued, when people are on the drug, sex drive is through the roof, people feel great b/c of reflex hyperandrogenicity.

The drug is based off the hormonal profile of someone born with pseudohermaphroditism, that's essentially what you become.

I have to say though, I really cant believe ANY of these guys are the same as someone who is fully amped with a decent natural Test/DHT ratio, I think some of these guys must go through spells of side effects that we never hear about, or they're denying are even associated with the drug.

Mind you, I think I've heard enough stories about side effects to last me a lifetime - I know, the appeal & lure of popping a single measly pill EOD to save all your hair is just immense, but lifes a bitch. I have a few full boxes of Fin, I wont be touching the stuff, I'm actually having second thoughts about my RU too.

[Jcm800]

Yep, you're right and talking sense as usual dude. I think some must be in denial, choosing to ignore or perhaps not realising subtle sides.

I actually know a guy, ok he's from an old forum, but we stay in touch via email - we've been in touch around five years. We were both toying with fin back then, he started it, I didn't.

When he gets in touch, it's never good or to praise his hair. It's to complain about how shit his life is, or how bad he feels. I never rub it in, but believe Fin has done that to him.

I think I need to try RU perhaps, any advice on that mate? Is the premixed any good do you know?

Might even try Keretene, just desperate now, hate the feeling, but I know you relate too..

[UK_]

Thanks man, I think I know what you mean regarding your friend.

To sum it up, a man needs androgens pumping through his blood for his own personal feelings of well-being and happiness, the relationship between the happiness/well-being and the androgenic compounds in your blood is astronomically complex.

Personally, my happiest moments were [quite obviously] when I was in my teens, the highest levels of [natural] testosterone my body had experienced, the key part here was that it was natural, and everything was in balance, i.e I cant simply pump myself full of exogenous testosterone today and expect the same outcome (you & I know it wont be the same). That state of me will never be achieved in the lab and ill never experience it again, but I must say, science and research is still young, one day, many many years from now we'll have in our hands the power to quite literally turn back the clock physiologically, I see finasteride as the very very first form of this type technology, i.e. it works in a sense, but it's shit.

[Jcm800]

Double post sorry.

[Jcm800]

Yeah my teens were my best years I agree with that. Re my mate, yeah wasn't long before his girlfriend left him, I recall him saying he totally lost interest. Also had blisters on his scrotum, erection issues, bad lower back, memory issues, depression, he went to the Dr, had many tests, found nothing, so now he's on Fin and anti depressants. Poor sod, he and I both know the root causeof his woes, oh and he has a metallic taste in his mouth, classic signs eh?

Still, I've been tempted by that little pill still, somehow a buzz cut might have some appeal, slightly
now.

What's hard for me, is I come from a family of piss takers, none of which are bald, it fcks me off mate.

[Jcm800]

And what about the guys taking Duasteride on here? What do you make of that UK? It seems to be working very well, but at what cost eventually?

[Jcm800]

Yeah my teens were my best years I agree with that. Re my mate, yeah wasn't long before his girlfriend left him, I recall him saying he totally lost interest. Also had blisters on his scrotum, erection issues, bad lower back, memory issues, depression, he went to the Dr, had many tests, found nothing, so now he's on Fin and anti depressants. Poor sod, he and I both know the root causeof his woes, oh and he has a metallic taste in his mouth, classic signs eh?

Still, I've been tempted by that little pill still, somehow a buzz cut might have some appeal, slightly
now.

What's hard for me, is I come from a family of piss takers, none of which are bald, it fcks me off.

[UK_]

And what about the guys taking Duasteride on here? What do you make of that UK? It seems to be working very well, but at what cost eventually?

I dont even want to know what post dutasteride syndrome looks like.

Probably end up pregnant.

[Jcm800]

Yeah not a nice thought, good luck to them anyhow.

[swingline747]

god Im freaked now.
I told my GF I was stopping and she was like why, if Ive not concluded the pain.
I told her there was the onset of the symptoms. I already feel strts of ED syptoms but hopefully Il bounce back fast and not deal with the long withdrawl issues.
Last time after about a month or two I was back in hyper drive. But its also tough when you have that sex drive and dont feel attractive enough to go out and pursue anything. Its such a double edged issue.

[swingline747]

sorry I cant figure out how to edit a message but have any of you guys with sides (or anyone youve talked with) experienced testicle shrinkage?
Ive always have semi "larger" ones and lately even since the first time on fin it seems they havent been as weighty to say it politley.

[Jcm800]

god Im freaked now.
I told my GF I was stopping and she was like why, if Ive not concluded the pain.
I told her there was the onset of the symptoms. I already feel strts of ED syptoms but hopefully Il bounce back fast and not deal with the long withdrawl issues.
Last time after about a month or two I was back in hyper drive. But its also tough when you have that sex drive and dont feel attractive enough to go out and pursue anything. Its such a double edged issue.

Sounds like you're lucky to have a supportive GF mate? I guess she already see's you as attractive..myself, i'm single early 40's, tho i'm told i'm handsome, but inside due to thinning hair feel very un-attractive, It's all bullshit - i'm just thinking of buzzing and accepting my fate, but even at my age - it's hard.

Regarding you're swinger's, i can't comment on that, perhaps you should throw that one out in the general forum, i'm sure someone could shed light on it dude.