If finasteride doesnt work, does it mean Avodart also wont work??

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  • ChrisM
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    Ok.. you went overboard. Propecia is NOT an outdated drug. In terms of effectiveness in reversing MPB finasteride is probably one of the most effective treatments out there for balding men. That said dutasteride and finasteride only differ in the fact that dutasteride blocks a second type 5AR enzyme that fin does not block. Also if someone has side effects like low semen and ejaculation, flaccid penis and difficulty with erections, nut ache etcetera and finasteride is say at a 5 with those side effects. With Dutasteride dial it up to at 8 in terms of those same side effects as it is a powerful drug and therefore the sides also are the same but more pronounced. For either to show pronounced results to completely reverse out baldness you have to be on a linear time frame of over a year on either to see results that are substantial. No one I know of has seen results of Finasteride detailing a complete reverse or substantial regrowth in a 6 month or under that time frame. The required period for either would at least be over a year to see a completed result to see both retention of hair and return of thickness and hair density. Dutasteride is essentially the same in that you need to be on the drug for an extended period of time to see the results. To jump off one drug immediately to latch onto another is also not the wisest choice of action as the person suggesting such does not have live with the consequences of such a quick change. Do your research first and make an educated decision on your own before listening to such advice.

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  • WarLord
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    Originally posted by secrethero89
    Should i switch to avodart?
    If you really have MPB, and if you want to increase your chances close to 100%, then Avodart is the best choice. I don't see any reason, why people should start with finasteride. It is an outdated drug. Remember that mere 3 Avodart pills a week are stronger than whatever dose of finasteride! Yes, on finasteride you have close to 90% probability to keep your hair for years, but one thing that is not emphasized enough is the fact that in young men, this number is rather closer to 80%. And when you are young, your MPB proceeds fast. You don't have enough time to play with finasteride, to end up frustrated after 1 year of endless waiting for any results. You must jump on the most effective drug that is available.

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  • secrethero89
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    Originally posted by WarLord
    Your reasoning is completely incorrect. Finasteride blocks 70% of blood DHT. But this is only an average. You need to block 75-80% to be at the same level like Dominican pseudoherms, who never go bald. Dutasteride can block as much as 99% blood DHT, according to dosage. A simple math.
    Should i switch to avodart?

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  • WarLord
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    Originally posted by secrethero89
    I have been on Proscar/4 everyday for 6 months. I had no results and my hair is much worse than ever. Everybody says that I should stay at least 1 year but it didnt even slow my hair loss, if i saw a little good sign i would stay 1 year.

    I am really depressed now i spend 5+ hours a day in hair loss forums. I am thinking MPB beats me..following my dad's pattern ((

    I want to try avodart but i think it wont work because they work in the same mechanism. I didnt respond a DHT Inhibitor(finas) so that Avodart is also a DHT Inhibitor. Theoretically it shouldnt work.

    Is my assumption right? Or should i start avodart?
    Your reasoning is completely incorrect. Finasteride blocks 70% of blood DHT. But this is only an average. You need to block 75-80% to be at the same level like Dominican pseudoherms, who never go bald. Dutasteride can block as much as 99% blood DHT, according to dosage. A simple math.

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  • ChrisM
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    It is going to take at least over a year to determine whether Finasteride is working to reverse out the male pattern baldness you have inherited through genetics. MPB is a slow, gradual process as is the miniaturization of the hair follicles by DHT, sebum and being choked off as the 5AR enzyme types one and two attach themselves to the receptors of your follicles. Finasteride must be ingested daily to build up the internal chemistry of your body to offset the years of DHT to take down the levels of it and to knock out the 5AR enzyme to begin to let the hair that is dormant and in a rest phase to grow out. Combine that with Biotin at 5000mg and Ketoconazole shampoo( Regenepure or Nizoral) to strip out the DHT caked in the follicles themselves and over time past a year you should see some improvement.

    People think it is going to be instantaneous. When it is anything but that unfortunately the extent of the damage differs from person to person. A Norwood 2.5 is going to have different responsiveness than a Norwood 4 - 6 as the damage is more extensive going forward therefore more time for repairs is necessary.

    If going past a year and several months if you are not seeing the results at all you might opt for the 5mg Propecia brand or Dutasteride(Avodart) as the stronger alternative.

    Jumping off sooner from Finasteride in a way that is either abrupt and quick change and you will lose the hair that you have gained with Finasteride as a form of shedding.

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Maybe, you will not know unless you try it. I've seen your pictures in another hair loss forum which I post as JimmyNeutron with a 2009 join date/Vegeta avatar, ************, and you have thick hair and unnoticeable hair loss.

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  • If finasteride doesnt work, does it mean Avodart also wont work??

    I have been on Proscar/4 everyday for 6 months. I had no results and my hair is much worse than ever. Everybody says that I should stay at least 1 year but it didnt even slow my hair loss, if i saw a little good sign i would stay 1 year.

    I am really depressed now i spend 5+ hours a day in hair loss forums. I am thinking MPB beats me..following my dad's pattern ((

    I want to try avodart but i think it wont work because they work in the same mechanism. I didnt respond a DHT Inhibitor(finas) so that Avodart is also a DHT Inhibitor. Theoretically it shouldnt work.

    Is my assumption right? Or should i start avodart?
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