Laser Treatment -vs- Hair Transplant

[Dav7]

a) Anything past a NW1 is essentially considered hair loss. The "definition" of a mature hairline is very different from that of the Norwood Scale. The Norwood Scale represents a scale of Male Pattern Baldness. It can not be said that past NW3 is officially "hair loss". Anything past NW1 is hair loss by definition.

Mature hairlines are typically correlated with age and a lack of the typical M-shape present in people suffering from MPB. In other words, you'll often see very old people with hair that maybe would be considered NW2.5ish, but if you look at their actually hairline you'll notice that it's a lot more rounded than that of a NW3, where the recession is deep and pronounced. Theirs tends to bend around smoothly.

b) All hair restoration doctors will give a hair transplant on a NW1 or under. The eligibility of someone to undergo a HT is a combination of age, family history, aggressiveness of hair loss, the donor hair, and effectiveness of any current medication being taken by the patient.

Tracy is literally high on her own ignorance that she refuses to actually listen to what leading doctors are saying, nor does she read any of the studies relating to the subject (though she claims to do so).

Right now you need to look at how to stop hair loss. Then get on the appropriate meds and wait about 12-18 months to determine their effectiveness, whether you have sides, and whether this is something you'd be willing to continue for life. If all of that is fine then you are fine to get a hair transplant.

And I'll gladly prove Tracy wrong right now. Go and look on the website of Rahal, Feriduni, Feller, or Keser. Go and google them right now. I will bet you they all have examples of hair transplants on people lower than NW3.

Is Tracy really having us believe that these doctors are unethical?


Really Tracy, go **** yourself. You cause more harm than good on this forum. You come on here and tell a NW2.5, 18 year old kid that he "only has a mature hairline and to not do anything"... and lo and behold he's back six months later NW3, upset, and desperately trying to fix his situation.

You are cancer. Just leave this forum now. You're an uneducated fool.

I'm 27 btw, not 18

[Dav7]

I know that, but in I'm saying that she does this all the time to young guys coming on here. She tells them there's nothing to worry about, when they are obviously balding. Then they all come back after a while upset for not doing something earlier.

Have you used Rograine, and have you found it effective? I was advised by the Hair clinic that it wasn't too good, which is unfortunate because it seems to be very easy to come across.

[Tracy C]

But can't I just get a hair transplant sometime now for my Norwood 2.5, and use medications etc.

You need to discuss that with a hair restoration doctor. It's not about money, it's about ethics. Ethical hair restoration doctors typically will not perform hair transplant surgery for a male who is less than a Norwood 3, especially if you are younger than your 30's. There are exceptions - but very few.

You are over stating the cosmetic effect of a Norwood 2.5. I understand why but the truth is Norwoods less than 3 are really not that bad. Actually, Norwood 3 really isn't so bad even though it is pretty cosmetically significant. Depending on how old you are, treatment with medication might possibly give you some of your hair line back. Maybe enough that you won't feel that you need hair transplant surgery anymore. Surgery should always be the absolute last resort - and ethical doctors know that.

Get away from that clinic you went to that tried to sell you laser treatments and find a genuine dermatologist who specializes in treating hair loss.

[Tracy C]

Have you used Rograine, and have you found it effective?

It is in your best interest to ignore Highlander. He is not hooked up right in the head. He is also deeply wrong about me and he gets aggressive with me for no legitimate reasons. Mature intelligent people can easily see that in his texts - and the forum admins are well aware of it.

Rogaine is only appropriate if you have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior areas. Rogaine does not work in the hair line for most males. Some males have even found that attempting to use Rogaine on their hair lines had made the problem worsen. You need to know that before you decide to attempt to use Rogaine on your hair line. You need to decide if you can live with the possibility that using it on your hair line might make the problem worse.

[Dav7]

I'm confused as f*** right now, think I'll just try and find a clinic - anywhere, including somewhere like Turkey that would be willing to accommodate me.

[Dav7]

Jesus Christ.

I JUST TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO!

Look, if you want to do nothing and be told how to fix your hair loss then by all means go to a clinic and let them take your money and sell your shit that doesn't work.

Or, and the choice is yours, you can spend a little bit of time researching this.

Look at the top bar, it says "Search". Use that for a bit.

Look mate, I'm sorry but I'm still confused here - are you saying not to bother with hair transplants from a clinic, and seek other ways to regrow hair.........or are you just referring to clinics trying to take my money with bogus treatments like laser?

Thanks

[PatientlyWaiting]

Tracy is irrational and stupid as ****.

SMH. That's uncalled for.

[PatientlyWaiting]

Stay away from laser treatments.

Only do it if you have nothing else to do with your money. If you grow money from a tree, then go ahead and do it.

HT would be much better.

[StayThick]

It is in your best interest to ignore Highlander. He is not hooked up right in the head. He is also deeply wrong about me and he gets aggressive with me for no legitimate reasons. Mature intelligent people can easily see that in his texts - and the forum admins are well aware of it.

Rogaine is only appropriate if you have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior areas. Rogaine does not work in the hair line for most males. Some males have even found that attempting to use Rogaine on their hair lines had made the problem worsen. You need to know that before you decide to attempt to use Rogaine on your hair line. You need to decide if you can live with the possibility that using it on your hair line might make the problem worse.

Tracy I disagree 100% with your last paragraph. Although Rogaine states their product is not intended for the hairline (studies were conducted with application on vertex) that does not mean it is not effective at the hairline. I have personally had results by using minox at the hairline, just as a few may state they have experienced an acceleration of thinning by applying it at the hairline. Whose to say that's not just the normal progression of MPB?

It's not helpful to advise others to not try Rogaine at the hairline when the individual may benefit.

[chewytorch]

SMH. That's uncalled for.

it really wasn't, highLander gave the guy great advice while she spouted her ignorant BS,

[powersam]

Look mate, I'm sorry but I'm still confused here - are you saying not to bother with hair transplants from a clinic, and seek other ways to regrow hair.........or are you just referring to clinics trying to take my money with bogus treatments like laser?

Thanks

Hair loss clinics (not transplant clinics) will charge you huge amounts of money and put you on minoxidil, finasteride and sometimes useless things like lasercomb and saw palmetto. They will charge a huge mark up for these things and for every appointment you have.

Minoxidil DOES work on the hair line, it just works on around half as many men on the hair line as it does on the vertex. http://yupb.com/preventing/preventing-1355.html

You need to read up on minox and finasteride, educate yourself on the side effects, and make an informed decision as to whether you want to take them or not.