I have reached NW3. Beginning of the end. Must Battle Now.

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  • fred970
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    I Suffered from drug-induced gyno in the space of a month at 22 here. I now have a normal-looking chest and I am currently 8 months after surgery to remove it. Sorry for sounding so pessimistic but once it's there, it doesn't subside magically. You had a chance to prevent it if you had stopped finasteride after feeling chest pain for the first time. I suggest you consult gynecomastia.org and start looking for a good surgeon. Insurance covers it if you live in France or in Belgium, elsewhere in the world, forget about it.

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by clandestine
    RU has worsened my gyne at periods.. Some of us are just really susceptible to aa's.
    Hate to say it but Andractim would obliterate your gyno (clinically proven to do so in 80% of 5AR-inhibitor induced gyno cases).

    Unfortunately its main side effect is hair loss.

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  • Conpecia
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    Hairline still getting worse after 2 months on minox foam. I'm losing this battle fast but the war will be won. Going to begin saving for a Rahal HT in summer of 2014. Entire frontal zone restored. Shouldn't take more than 3000 grafts max to do this at a decent density. Then I'll touch up every few years as needed with Gho or Nigam or whomever can regenerate donor hair. The tech will improve each year. By 2020 we'll have something that can stop further loss without sides and also give us good regrowth. I will beat this. Just gotta keep positive and save money.

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  • clandestine
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    I'm on minox, no way that effects estrogen levels. The gyno looks the same, but it hurts every now and then. If I start gaining weight it aches, if I eat clean it hurts less. Wondering if I should get surgery, maybe insurance will cover it since it's beyond just a cosmetic thing. But everything I've read suggests getting off fin will get rid of the fin-caused gyno. That's not the case right now, and it just dawned on me I haven't touched fin in months and nothing is changing.
    I'm thinking about surgery, but only after I've found a regimine that works, and doesn't cause gyne flares. Probably next year, around this time (end of Summer, rather).

    Personally I'm not so sure getting off fin will get rid of the medication induced gyne. I've read this too, but personal experience says otherwise.

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  • Conpecia
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    I'm on minox, no way that effects estrogen levels. The gyno looks the same, but it hurts every now and then. If I start gaining weight it aches, if I eat clean it hurts less. Wondering if I should get surgery, maybe insurance will cover it since it's beyond just a cosmetic thing. But everything I've read suggests getting off fin will get rid of the fin-caused gyno. That's not the case right now, and it just dawned on me I haven't touched fin in months and nothing is changing.

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  • clandestine
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    Originally posted by UK_
    I dont think the sides will be as bad as Fin from RU.

    There have been studies to suggest topical application does not result in severe systemic side effects.
    RU has worsened my gyne at periods.. Some of us are just really susceptible to aa's.

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  • clandestine
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    I'm sure you're right, but even at .2 mg fin a week I've had bad sides. However, I'm beginning to think this might be something else. I've been off fin for almost 4 months and I'm still having pain beneath each nipple, beyond just the added tissue. It still hurts, which doesn't make much sense to me. Probably need to go to the doc again.
    Are you on anything else at the moment? Is your gyne worsening, or becoming more noticeable?

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  • Conpecia
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    I'm sure you're right, but even at .2 mg fin a week I've had bad sides. However, I'm beginning to think this might be something else. I've been off fin for almost 4 months and I'm still having pain beneath each nipple, beyond just the added tissue. It still hurts, which doesn't make much sense to me. Probably need to go to the doc again.

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  • UK_
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    I dont think the sides will be as bad as Fin from RU.

    There have been studies to suggest topical application does not result in severe systemic side effects.

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  • Conpecia
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    Still battling gyno from propecia and I believe I would probably get it from RU as well. Once the gyno goes away ill try RU with an estrogen blocker or something.

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  • FearTheLoss
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    Conpecia, why don't you try RU?

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  • Conpecia
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    Originally posted by BigThinker
    Get your haircut every 3-4 weeks from a good barber. Get the back/sides (donor area?) cut extremely low. Have him cut your neck line and around the ears really sharp too. I posted pics of what I do a week back on Highlander's haircut thread.



    Good thinking. Expensive frames can pull attention, although it's nice to be able to rock the expensive frames + have hair. But yeah, you might as well start working out now. I'm trying to get into lifting and have decent mass gained by the time I'm at the point of shaving my head.

    Good advice on the haircut. As far as shaving the head I have a good shaped head and decent jaw, always complimented on my face. Unfortunately my ears are big and stick out. But can always get them surgically adjusted if necessary.

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  • Conpecia
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    Originally posted by Breaking Bald
    When did the minox shed begin to occur? And how long has it lasted for?
    Probably began about 3 weeks ago. Keep in mind I stopped fin for good after 6 years so that is causing loss as well.

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  • BigThinker
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    i'm nw3.5 plus diffuse thinning everywhere. with minox freshly applied the hair is so thin it's amazing. and since my donor region is so thick it looks more and more awkward each day.
    Get your haircut every 3-4 weeks from a good barber. Get the back/sides (donor area?) cut extremely low. Have him cut your neck line and around the ears really sharp too. I posted pics of what I do a week back on Highlander's haircut thread.

    Originally posted by Conpecia
    at this rate I've got another year tops to solve this or else i will have to shave the head and start wearing glasses, tanning and working out like crazy to compensate.
    Good thinking. Expensive frames can pull attention, although it's nice to be able to rock the expensive frames + have hair. But yeah, you might as well start working out now. I'm trying to get into lifting and have decent mass gained by the time I'm at the point of shaving my head.

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  • Breaking Bald
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    hell hath no fury like a minox shed. i hope the worst of it is over, shedding seems to have decreased the past couple days, itch is lower. man i had no idea you could bald so dramatically in 6 months. it's been insane. i'm nw3.5 plus diffuse thinning everywhere. with minox freshly applied the hair is so thin it's amazing. and since my donor region is so thick it looks more and more awkward each day. i have vowed to stick with minox every day for 6 months. if the hair just continues to decline i will add RU to the regimen and save up for gyno surgery. propecia worked wonders for me, at least i kept my hair for the most of my 20s. my hairline now is essentially like lebron's, except I'm white and can conceal it with my bangs grown longer and side swept. at this rate I've got another year tops to solve this or else i will have to shave the head and start wearing glasses, tanning and working out like crazy to compensate.
    When did the minox shed begin to occur? And how long has it lasted for?

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