The last time I went to a bar/club

[Trimmed]

Fred is right, the difference between an NW2 and an NW6 is like the difference between night and day. No one will make fun of an NW2 because you can barely even notice their hair loss. Yet some one with a totally bald crown, whose hair loss is much more obvious and pronounced, will unfortunately become the target of jokes and ridicule. No amount of positive thinking will ever change this.

I've been razor shaving my head for probably 6 years and I've never once been made fun of or ridiculed... nobody makes fun of baldness... because its just not funny... and so common to see everywhere... every other guy these days is bald to some degree..

Now if you were talking about a female walking around bald then ya I could see that... but definitely not for a man.

[Trimmed]

25 year old norwood 7 shaved horseshoe looks like a creeper to women in their 20's.

go tell that to the girls in their 20's who still find me hot with a shaven head at 35 years old.

A handsome face is all you need. Hair does not make a person attractive... your facial features do. Even when I had my full head of hair I never once got a compliment on my hair.. only about my facial features.

[fred970]

Thank you for the realism DepressedByHairLoss. /thread

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Fred is right, the difference between an NW2 and an NW6 is like the difference between night and day. No one will make fun of an NW2 because you can barely even notice their hair loss. Yet some one with a totally bald crown, whose hair loss is much more obvious and pronounced, will unfortunately become the target of jokes and ridicule. No amount of positive thinking will ever change this.

I was the same way when my hair loss was barely noticeable. I would spout cliched sayings like "confidence is what it's all about", "oh, if I lost my hair, I would just simply move on", or "there is more to me than my hair". But my attitude changed once my hair loss became more pronounced. The fact is that talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words. Having a full head of hair is an absolutely integral part of a person's good looks and is especially important in today's image-driven society.

A central point of Spencer's radio show is that those who have not experienced true baldness will never truly understand it for themselves. And some guys on here essentially have full heads of hair so how can they understand something like true hair loss if they've never experienced it for themselves. Again, feeling and experiencing is believing and actions speak louder than words.

Just like that "take it on the chin" advice. No one likes to be mocked constantly and guys do not mock other guys for just about anything. Not to mention that hair loss is something that cuts much much deeper than anything else. So you have big ears, a bit of acne, or packed on some extra weight. Big deal.

I also used to tell stories about people I know who despite their baldness, have led successful lives. I know people like that too. Yet I cannot bring myself to completely let my hair go and neither can anyone else in this thread.

[noquierosercalvo]

and i ask... why the **** dont just use a hair prothesis ? i mean if you are so ***ed and sad etc why dont use it ? i will do it in a few weeks for the try and im sure it will be awesome.

[Not giving up]

Attention all. I was wrong, Fred is right.

Abandon all hope. Fred had a bad time and you will too. Life is over. Quit your job. Live in a cave. Kill yourself. Do whatever. None of it matters, you're balding, it's all over.

Wow. That felt great. I see why you do it Fred. Thank God you got your hair back and became a perfect human being again immune from all forms of persecution and mockery.

You're right, it is magical.

[fred970]

For one guy like your friend, there are 100 that will be f-cked. Hope is a dangerous thing.

You know what gave me hope? Getting some of my hair back thanks to a hair transplant.

Not being an overcompensating try-hard (that's how women will see it) who thought he could compensate for his ugly bald head with big muscles.

Since I have some hair on m head again (thin NW2.5), the mockeries have magically stopped. Life is much more pleasant to live all of a sudden.

[Not giving up]

Guys will try to remind you of your place, and it doesn't matter if you put them back at theirs.

The fact will be: they already disrespected you because you were bald, it wouldn't have happened in the first place if you were "one of them".

Oh, did I mention I was only talking about actual baldness. LOL at NW1-3 who think they have any idea of what it's like to be bald in your early 20's.

Live your social life with a slick shiny NW5 at the age of 22, and come back to tell me how strong you are. Tough NW2 guys...

Fantastic attitude yet again pal! 'Your baldness isn't as bad as my baldness.'
Tell you what bro, let's just slap our dicks on the table and we'll see who is bigger if you're just interested in having a pointless competition.

The sad thing is people come to these sites looking for two things: answers, and equally as important, hope, something you seem so hellbent on removing from this topic.

So I'm going to ignore your point scoring. Yes I wasn't bald at 22 like you apparently were, I'm sorry that happened to you and you had to deal with it, but as you had 'dreamy blue eyes' (lol, who the hell even says that about themselves bro) I shall instead just share the story of my best friend, and hopefully to any impressionable Young desperate guy who will lose the fight against baldness at a young age might actually restore some hope into their lives.

My best friend started losing his hair at 18. He's always been overweight so losing his hair at a young age was probably the last thing he needed. He got ripped by our buds (not so much myself as I didn't want to kick the guy when he was down.)
His hairline was more or less gone by the time he hit 21. He was still overweight, the small amount of hair he had left on top was thin and awful. He had a girlfriend but she was nothing to brag about and treat him like he was nothing, telling him how he was fat constantly (ironically never mentioning his hair.)

Fast forward to january 2014. He started to come to the gym with me. He trained hard until the summer of that year and he lost a good amount of weight, still a big guy, but he carried it better, more in his shoulders and arms and chest.
That summer he finally braved the shave. He only had hair left on his crown by this point.
His life changed. He continued in the gym, he broke up with the girl that treated him like dirt and met a girl he now lives with that I'd be proud to be banging. He's got a good job and works hard in life. He's a NW6 now but he's never let it hold him back.

This isn't a story about his appearance despite the content thus far, because the point is, not once did my friend ever give up, even when our friends tried to rip on him for balding, or being overweight, he just threw an insult back at them and laughed. Guys will try to put each other down no matter what. It's what they do. If you have hairloss, yes, they'll probabbly mock you, but if you had acne they'll mock you for that, guys will mock each other for just about anything, the important thing isn't to feel all butt hurt about it like our friend Fred here. Take it on the chin, if they weren't mocking you about that, they'd mock you about something else, I've been a topless butler and modelled yet my friends still rip me to shreds for a number of things. No one is immune from banter. Be a lad, they'll be mocking you because they're insecure about something themselves, if you're getting a hard time, try not to show it, think of something witty to say and throw it the hell back at them. See how quick they are to mock you if you shine a big old spot light on something theyre so insecure about. Fight fire with Fire. Don't just accept you're balding and therefore deserve to be less than them. Be an alpha male and don't take any crap.

Hope is a fragile thing, coming to this forum you'd think there is none but that's not true. There is hope for young bald guys out there. Your attitude towards life shall create the life you have, and clearly Fred's victim attitude stunk.

Life does not end at NW6 and my best friend is living proof.

[JSmith120]

Wow this forum has a completely different perspective than ***

[scorpiolove]

Freds opinion is blunt but honest!
This is mans talk!
I've been dating this really awesome woman for a month now and she's a great person! The friend,like most men would ask: Did you fvuck her yet?
That's how it is ladies and gentlemen, procreation rules the nation and to think otherwise is just foolish. How many men would say, are you in love? did you buy her a ring yet? lol. It's all a bunch of feminist lies that women want you to believe for the sake of indoctrinating their own twisted ways and propaganda.

[fred970]

And Fred, if you were so easily 'put in your place' when you were balding I have news for you bud, you're just not as strong as you like to tell everyone.

Guys will try to remind you of your place, and it doesn't matter if you put them back at theirs.

The fact will be: they already disrespected you because you were bald, it wouldn't have happened in the first place if you were "one of them".

Oh, did I mention I was only talking about actual baldness. LOL at NW1-3 who think they have any idea of what it's like to be bald in your early 20's.

Live your social life with a slick shiny NW5 at the age of 22, and come back to tell me how strong you are. Tough NW2 guys...

[GNX]

We've all heard of "that guy who is ugly but has women all over him because he's confident". Yet I've never seen that actually happen in the real world.

I have on numerous occasions. apparently ur not trying hard enough..... its usually that exact attitude from dudes like you who never hook up with hot chics simply because they don't think they have a chance.

law of averages..... the more hot women u hit on the better ur chances are. wen was the last time u actually hit on a HOT chic? have u asked urself that question lately.....

[Not giving up]

Well said Not Giving up. Well said.

And Fred, if you are confident in who you are then it doesn't matter what others think. If they "try to put me in my place" then I will 100% put them in theirs!

Oh and you are "Hilarious" Fred. I can't stop laughing at you

Spot on there, Vic. Spot on.

And Fred, if you were so easily 'put in your place' when you were balding I have news for you bud, you're just not as strong as you like to tell everyone.

In the meantime, feel free to look up what a narcissist is and go rethink your life

[Vic]

Well said Not Giving up. Well said.

And Fred, if you are confident in who you are then it doesn't matter what others think. If they "try to put me in my place" then I will 100% put them in theirs!

Oh and you are "Hilarious" Fred. I can't stop laughing at you

[fred970]

Well yeah obviously. I will always fight hairloss. I'm 24 and have my whole life ahead of me. I've always had thick hair and since I've been losing it has my confidence been knocked? At times yes. I don't debate this. I'm going through it like we all are.

My point is that reading through this site you'd think you lose your hair and life ends. By the end of reading this thread it appears I might as well not get married because my wife will leave me publicly over the Internet if I go bald. I might as well never leave the house after because the towns people will try to kill me with fire. Oh and never talk to any women ever again, because even if you're a nice, charismatic and funny person they'll just pitty you because of your hairless head?
No, frankly, just no.

You know who that guy is, the guy who people seem so convinced they'll become if they lose their hair? A victim. Someone who probably goes through life finding excuses not to talk to girls anyway.
I will fight hairloss until I either win or lose the battle, but If I lose, I won't give up on life. I'll work hard, I'll continue to hit the gym, I'll be a person of value with something interesting or funny to say.

Do I want to go bald? Hell no. But I'm not going to let it own me to the point where I don't live anymore if it happens.

A man is judged on what he produces in life, not how pretty his hair is. Sometimes I really do think we need to get a grip. Fight hair loss, but for God sake don't think your life ends with a buzz cut or a slik top.

You can do all that and think you haven't changed. But people and women will always make sure that you know your place.