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[Delphi]

Everyone has to make their own choice on what they decide to do and with whom they decide to choose. I really like Dr. Bisanga not only for his skill but something that is very important to me. You can sit down and talk to him man to man and he is never threatened by what I have to say to him as a patient. He is very good at what he does and I am very good at what I do for a living neither makes one of us better than the other. Most doctors on the other hand I have found to have this skewed view that they should be put up on some type of pedestal, sorry but that does not work well with me and over the years I’m sure many can see that. Some don’t have this requirement and good for them as they have not been burdened with some of my past experiences.

It’s up to each and every patient to become fully informed on the procedure itself and what to expect. If you are going to rely on posters that have never had a procedure in their life to help you along with the process than I really don’t know what to say. I have found over the years that this is a very dirty business and take this statement very seriously. I can also see from the postings on the various forums that business seems to have taken a drastic downturn so you can expect the rhetoric to start getting very viscous, so just sit back and watch before making any decisions.

Clinics and reps that were doing the right thing along the way have always been doing that and it’s not something that should be suddenly addressed because business has slowed down.

Topcat, once again you avoid the direct questions. You continue to speak out of both sides of your mouth and continue to throw up smokescreens to avoid providing a direct answer. We all know why that is, you're not fooling any of us!

Every time you're called on your bullshit you do the same thing, you fall back on more bullshit.

It's interesting that you bring up the viscousness on the forums. Here a great example of one of your heroes, Dr. Ray Woods, getting down and dirty with Dr. Umar for all to see. Talk about unethical and unprofessional! This behavior really highlights what you preach, yet you praise doctor Woods and refuse to admit that he doesn't fit into your small punch ethical criteria. This is very curious.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=102205&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

So what do you say about this Topcat or are you going to give us more YOUR "rhetoric"?

[topcat]

Well you seem to be a shill but if you are willing to post your story along with your photos right here into my thread I will answer your question. Otherwise you are just part of what is so disgusting about this industry.

If you are a prospective patient read this and other exchanges like it very closely. You are getting mixed up with very money grubbing people who could care less about what happens to you in the long run. Best run for you life.

And yes I have seen that exchange in the link everyone should read it as it is very enlightening.

[Delphi]

Well you seem to be a shill but if you are willing to post your story along with your photos right here into my thread I will answer your question. Otherwise you are just part of what is so disgusting about this industry.

If you are a prospective patient read this and other exchanges like it very closely. You are getting mixed up with very money grubbing people who could care less about what happens to you in the long run. Best run for you life.

And yes I have seen that exchange in the link everyone should read it as it is very enlightening.

OK topcat, it obvious that you refuse to answer a direct question and can only continue to throw up yet more smokescreens to avoid the truth and to cover your bullshit.

I'll be even more direct. You praise Dr. Woods for his ethics and results publicly, yet he uses large punches (according to your own criteria) and his online behavior is extremely unbecoming, and again according to your criteria, unethical. How can you give such high praise to a doctor who does not fit into your own publicly stated criteria of an ethical doctor who has the best interest of patients in mind?

[topcat]

Yes Delphi what you do is very normal. You’re not a patient, you don’t seem to be a prospective patient and you don’t work in the industry. You just randomly post to a message forum on baldness and only to particular threads.


First off I think you are an idiot shill and you sound exactly like that other poster that lives in his mom's basement probably the same made up person.

Shill posters have several jobs in the online world. To discredit those that are bad for business, to stimulate discussion and add to overall views which generates more revenue in one way or other for the site, or simply to make a complete jack ass out of themselves. Delphi you seem to have fallen into category number 3.

I have no need to answer or obligation to answer some imbecile and would rather to just tell you to get lost punk.

But I will entertain you. I have no problem with Dr. Woods and I will add that he is not my doctor. But if he was my doctor I would be sure that the punch range used on my head was .75-.85 because unlike you I have researched fue for the last 10 years. As far as his conservative approach and his outspoken voice against the crap in this industry including the likes of you and the reps that work the boards I respect it.

Regardless of which clinic someone chooses it is up to them to take personal responsibility for some of the decisions that are made. Only a complete fool would let a doctor dictate to them. Part of personal responsibility is also understanding the procedure and how long a final result takes and it certainly in not 5 months I shouldn't have to spell that out for anyone but obviously many simply do not do the necessary research.

Now go away son you’re bothering me.

[Delphi]

Yes Delphi what you do is very normal. You’re not a patient, you don’t seem to be a prospective patient and you don’t work in the industry. You just randomly post to a message forum on baldness and only to particular threads.


First off I think you are an idiot shill and you sound exactly like that other poster that lives in his mom's basement probably the same made up person.

Shill posters have several jobs in the online world. To discredit those that are bad for business, to stimulate discussion and add to overall views which generates more revenue in one way or other for the site, or simply to make a complete jack ass out of themselves. Delphi you seem to have fallen into category number 3.

I have no need to answer or obligation to answer some imbecile and would rather to just tell you to get lost punk.

But I will entertain you. I have no problem with Dr. Woods and I will add that he is not my doctor. But if he was my doctor I would be sure that the punch range used on my head was .75-.85 because unlike you I have researched fue for the last 10 years. As far as his conservative approach and his outspoken voice against the crap in this industry including the likes of you and the reps that work the boards I respect it.

Regardless of which clinic someone chooses it is up to them to take personal responsibility for some of the decisions that are made. Only a complete fool would let a doctor dictate to them. Part of personal responsibility is also understanding the procedure and how long a final result takes and it certainly in not 5 months I shouldn't have to spell that out for anyone but obviously many simply do not do the necessary research.

Now go away son you’re bothering me.

Another smokescreen Topcat??? I understand that it must be hard to admit that you're full of shit, but you have no idea how much research I've done or what my current circumstances are. Like you I don't feel the need or obligation to post my pictures or provide personal information about my self to satisfy your skepticism. I could care less what you think about me, but it's obvious that you will do anything not to be exposed as the true shill that you really are. You post a lot on these forums and it seems like you might the one who is hired to "stimulate discussion" since you start so many threads. Funny how you know so much about being shill.

Keep dancing around the Woods and Bisanga issue Topcat, it's good exercise

[topcat]

Here is my update of the lateral hump area on the scalp before the hair grows too long. I have had approximately 600 fue’s taken from this area over 3 procedures with the majority coming from this 18 sq cm area. The procedure was 2 weeks ago and the previous procedures were 2 and 3 years ago. The harvesting is probably higher than normal at my request and it looks very normal to me.

[534623]

Keep dancing around the Woods and Bisanga issue Topcat, it's good exercise

Don’t criticize Topcat! It took him more than 10 years of hardcore research to find out whether or not FUE is working, and finally, to be the winner of Bisanga’s pro bono offer for the final proof. This is not so easy!

[topcat]

I pay for my procedures but thanks for noting my first procedure was pro bono and when asked I gave half of it away to another patient because not only did I know the patient it was the right thing to do. I also plan on paying for that pro bono procedure some time very soon as it is a small amount of money and I feel that is the right thing to do along with doing my best to pay for the procedure of another repair patient.

Hey Ironman I speak to way too many patients sometimes. One patient on the Dutch forums seems to very displeased with his procedure and he had your main man working on him. I look forward to seeing your documentation in April including up close pictures at regular intervals.

Guys if you wonder why I do this ask a few repair patients. My hair is not much of an issue at this point and at this age but these guys in this industry are mostly scumbags and I don’t forget. Believe what you choose to believe.

[534623]

Hey Ironman I speak to way too many patients sometimes. One patient on the Dutch forums seems to very displeased with his procedure and he had your main man working on him. I look forward to seeing your documentation in April including up close pictures at regular intervals.

hmmm....

http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=31602

... this patient?

Seems he is very satisfied und documented his own donor regrowth with some photos today. Donor regrowth, you know, something YOU simply can't show with photos.

[topcat]

Donor regeneration can’t been shown through pictures.......hmmmm........hey I knew that.......lol......that’s why we don’t see any........must be the same with Acell and regenration........oh and plucking too

[534623]

Donor regeneration can’t been shown through pictures.......hmmmm........hey I knew that.......lol......that’s why we don’t see any........must be the same with Acell and regenration........oh and plucking too

hmmrm, google ` Dr. Cole on ACell - “That’s not science.” ´

… and you will know, that I know, what you’re talking about.

[topcat]

While in Brussels I got a really good book recommendation from another repair patient “Think Fast and Slow”. I have read in the past others stating that repair patients seem to analyze their thought process to greater extent than most due to the experience that they have gone through, overall I would agree but I would consider that something positive.

Some repair patients seem to move on while others stay hoping to help others. Many of them are labelled as having an agenda or some ulterior motives, I guess others just don’t get it. It actually feels good to help keep the industry as honest as possible while exposing some lies and half truths along the way. The book I was recommended puts it quite succinctly.

“Neuroeconomists have used MRI machines to examine the brains of people who are engaged in punishing one stranger for behaving unfairly to another stranger. Remarkably, altruistic punishment is accompanied by increased activity in the “pleasure centers” of the brain. It appears maintaining social order and the rules of fairness in this fashion is its own reward. Altruistic punishment could well be the glue that holds societies together.”

So if one considers not letting someone else bully or screw over another human being an agenda then so be it. Yes I do get some pleasure from pointing out much of what many in the industry would like to keep hidden or oh we don’t talk about that, that’s too negative. One only needs to Google hair transplant and white dotting, hair transplant and necrosis or hair transplant and repair, you will find the many whom have disappeared, what you see will shock you and this is only the tip of the iceberg. These are not cases from 10-20 years ago it is what’s still going on today. This is what happens when money becomes one’s prime motivator. But don’t be sad that greed does come with a price to be paid most often in health related issues as we are starting to see in some, yes greed has dreaded disease as it’s co-pilot so enjoy the ride. Unfortunately those that were willing to damage others in their quest will not be taking suitcases of money with them, the suitcases stay behind, sorry.

I’m guessing this is also why I have no need for alcohol or drugs as it’s not needed when compared to the feeling of truly helping another while many in this industry have that need to numb the pain they feel from maybe causing harm to others.

I will be updating my pictures in another week or so after I shave.

[inspects]

Good post Topcat...and Good Book my friend.

Kahneman.

The basis for his Nobel, Kahneman developed prospect theory to account for experimental errors he noticed in Daniel Bernoulli's traditional Utility theory. This theory makes logical assumptions that do not reflect people’s actual choices because it doesn't take into account behavioral biases.

Per Kahneman.

For example, one might reasonably assume that an individual would place twice as much value on a 20% chance of winning a prize as opposed to a 10% chance, but experiments show otherwise. As shown in the figure below, humans are more likely to act to avoid loss than to achieve a gain. For example, people generally ascribe a different absolute change in value to a 10% chance of a loss as opposed to a 10% chance of a gain. They also consider the reference point in deciding how much to value either one. Thus, a 10% change in probability has a greater value to most people if it changes the probability from 0% to 10% than if it changes the probability from 90% to 100%.

[topcat]

Thanks Inspects there was actually a quote in that book I wanted to post in regards to what Lounk proposed on doing but I didn’t want him to feel I was preaching to him. I could relate well to it as I have experienced it for myself.

"People who face very bad options take desperate gambles, accepting a high probability of making things worse in exchange for a small hope of avoiding a large loss. Risk taking of this kind often turns manageable failures into disasters. The thought of accepting the large loss is too painful, and the hope of complete relief too enticing to make the sensible decision........"

[topcat]

This is exactly why some repair patients will go for mega sessions and potentially end up with a bizarre results# and virgin patients will go for a mega session and end up with necrosis.