Had my first HT what next / NW6

[sausage]

Just to clarify , Dr Doganay accepted liability on this and offered me a free of charge HT on the same area to increase density .
At this point the idea is to use beard and chest hair in order not to use more head hair as I might need them later in life .

Would be nice to know what to do to avoid low yield this time

glad to hear it, that is great news. Good on him.

[kundun]

I started with minox 2 minox and have also suddenly much more grey hair. Hardly had them before. I read it can cause change in colour of hair.

Good that Doganay wants to make a correction.

I would not do to many changes just before and a year after the operation like stopping with fina or minox.

[vinnytr]

I started with minox 2 minox and have also suddenly much more grey hair. Hardly had them before. I read it can cause change in colour of hair.

Good that Doganay wants to make a correction.

I would not do to many changes just before and a year after the operation like stopping with fina or minox.

hows your HT coming along ?

[kundun]

I am almost on 3 months now. Had enormous shedding. Have never been so bald. Perhaps also due to the start of minox two weeks after the ht as adviced by dr doganay.
I feel a lot of hard hair coming out on my head. Probably the beardhair which starts to grow.
Had a facial treatment this afternoon. My beautyspecialist saw a lot of dark spots. So it starts to grow. To early for conclusions.

[gillenator]

This is always a good sign right ? The returning hairs will be thicker ?

Also ,very strange thing has happened . I can only put down to FIN .
I have never ever in my life seen a gray hair shed before where as in the last week I have seen at least 3 of them in my hand after applying minox etc

What does this mean ??

Vinny,

The native hairs that are "returning" or that have cycled through their growth phases come back weaker each cycle period. It's the slow progression of MPB to those hairs that are DHT receptive.

On the other hand, the transplanted hair should regrow without the debilitating effects of DHT. So they should bear similar characteristics to where they were harvested from, namely the donor zones.

As far as the loss of pigmentation to some of your hair, there really are no studies that I am aware of that would support that the use of hairloss drugs like finasteride would diminish pigmentation levels.

[vinnytr]

As far as the loss of pigmentation to some of your hair, there really are no studies that I am aware of that would support that the use of hairloss drugs like finasteride would diminish pigmentation levels.

I think you misunderstood me .
I was not saying FIN have caused my hair to go gray , I have a lot of gray hairs already but before I started taking FIN , I have never witnessed a single gray hair shed . Somehow gray hairs have always been much thicker compared to black hairs on my head too .
I remember reading on forums ,some fin users experiencing their existing (non gray) hairs getting darker. So I was sort of suggesting may be fin is somehow shedding those gray hairs and they will come back darker ?
Obviously I cant track individual hair grafts , so its just an optimistic assumption at this point

But for me shedding of gray hairs is quiet something

[vinnytr]

Ok I got a HT date from Dr Doganay and his idea is to retrieve as many grafts as possible (3000grafts) from beard and chest areas to cover the patchy areas and add density .
But my worry is the possibility of the same happening again and ending up with another poor result . So I would like to figure out what went wrong in the first place and prevent it from happening next time .

Any ideas people ?

[gillenator]

Sorry about that Vinny, yes I did misunderstand you.

And you brought up something that just clicked with me. I also am greying and been on low dose finasteride since 1996. I have also noticed that when I shed hair, it's always the hair with color and never really notice any white hair shedding, just the dark hair shafts.

And it's true that hair that loses color for some reason is more coarse. I have not however noticed hair losing pigmentation coming back darker with each cycle period.

[vinnytr]

Sorry about that Vinny, yes I did misunderstand you.

And you brought up something that just clicked with me. I also am greying and been on low dose finasteride since 1996. I have also noticed that when I shed hair, it's always the hair with color and never really notice any white hair shedding, just the dark hair shafts.

And it's true that hair that loses color for some reason is more coarse. I have not however noticed hair losing pigmentation coming back darker with each cycle period.

I have got a bit of dandruff at the moment and I have a little shake now and again . Today i also found 2 hairs about a cm long , 1/4 from the root/scalp end is gray and it goes darker going towards the other end . In fact black half way through .
Now does this suggest these hairs are turning from gray to black or the other way around ?

I remember when I was searching about FIN ,I have read people reporting their hairs going darker ,although they were not talking about gray hairs but the ones with their original colour. I would not mind FIN turning my grays back to black

How much FIN do you take a day ? do you get any sides at all ?

[gillenator]

Well if finasteride does return pigmentation to grey hair, I will take it all day long.

I cut proscar and take roughly one quarter daily. Sometimes the pill does not cut evenly but it's no big deal because it's still buying me time.

I do wonder how much more hair I would have lost had I not started low dose finasteride back in 1996.

No side effects...

[diaios1]

I am almost on 3 months now. Had enormous shedding. Have never been so bald. Perhaps also due to the start of minox two weeks after the ht as adviced by dr doganay.
I feel a lot of hard hair coming out on my head. Probably the beardhair which starts to grow.
Had a facial treatment this afternoon. My beautyspecialist saw a lot of dark spots. So it starts to grow. To early for conclusions.

Kundun did you have HT with Dr Doganay? If so, have you got any updates?

[vinnytr]

update on my situation ;

I have had the 2nd HT from Hakan Doganay a few weeks ago . Everything was absolutely free of charge as promised . They even picked me up from the airport as before and I stayed in the hospital for 3 days including 2 days of HT . As before only pain i had was the first couple of minutes where he is doing injections ,nothing at all afterwards . As most of the hair was used from the beard area i had a great nights sleep after both days of HT and i refused the pain killer injection they offered at the end of each day to keep you pain free overnight .

Dr Doganay planted 2400 grafts in 2 days , 1800 beard grafts the 1st day and 515 hair grafts + 76 chest graft the 2nd day .

Its very early days to talk of the result of course but i can feel planted hairs growing all over amongst my longer native hair from the 1st HT.
On the other hand shock loss has started (day 17 today ) and whenever i have a shake using tips of my fingers ,I get about 10 beard grafts on the white sheet.

here is a photo of the shock loss ,i will add photos of the HT after I go through them.

[gillenator]

Hey Vinny,

Congrats on your recent procedure!

There looks to be some crusts among the hair shafts which appear to be some of the grafts shedding.

Awesome count on the beard grafts. Looking forward to seeing your results as usual.

Now you can lay back and wait for the regrowth my friend!

[kundun]

@Daiaios : I am now on 5 months after the Hairtransplant.
After 2.5 months I noticed already that the hair started to grow. Density on the top of the head is very good. Crown has also improved but is running behind but seems to be normal. I still feel a lot of hair starting to grow. So hope crown will still improve in the coming months.
I had about 50% from beard and 50% from back of the head.
Am using Keratene and minox (2 times a day).

@ VinnyTR: Really hope for you you have a better result this time.

[kundun]

Hi Vinny,

I am now on 7 months. Am very happy with the result.

How is your status now ?