Scar Grafting with Dr Cole

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  • topcat
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 849

    #91
    jetfan thanks for posting your story. This is a serious procedure and not to be taken lightly.

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    • jetfan11
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 100

      #92
      shock loss

      35 years after,

      Thanks for your response. I will definitely do what I can with cortizone injections. Also looking into laser. I appreciate your story on the strip scar shock loss growing back but mine is recipient area shock loss.

      Basically I had 1000 grafts placed in my frontal 1/3 which had ton of previous grafts. Its 3.5 months later and very minimal signs of regrowth. I hope this Dr did not transect those follicles.

      At 3.5 months post surgery do you still think I have a chance for shock loss recovery?

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      • 35YrsAfter
        Doctor Representative
        • Aug 2012
        • 1418

        #93
        Originally posted by jetfan11
        35 years after,

        Thanks for your response. I will definitely do what I can with cortizone injections. Also looking into laser. I appreciate your story on the strip scar shock loss growing back but mine is recipient area shock loss.

        Basically I had 1000 grafts placed in my frontal 1/3 which had ton of previous grafts. Its 3.5 months later and very minimal signs of regrowth. I hope this Dr did not transect those follicles.

        At 3.5 months post surgery do you still think I have a chance for shock loss recovery?
        I had shock loss once. Back in the stone ages of hair transplantation, I had a scalp reduction which consisted of a 3/4 inch wide, 6 inch long strip being removed from the top of my head. nearly all of the hair on top of my head went into the resting phase. It was depressing for me to see my head look so bald at only 29 years old. It took about a year for the hair to grow back. All of the hair grew back pretty much the way it was.

        I doubt that the doctor transected the previously placed hair follicles.

        BTW, I personally don't see growth after HT surgery until about the 6th. month. Some see growth sooner. Some don't see growth until around the 12th. month.

        -35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office

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        • northeastguy
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 367

          #94
          Hi Jetfan..... really sorry to hear about your setback. Any reason why you switched Doctors if you were happy with the results you got from Bosely? Regardless, its water under the bridge at this point. My scars were not really raised. maybe the bottom one was slightly. 9 months later my top scar has healed quite well. The bottom has been a little frustrating. it is slightly raised mostly on the left side..... and we are really not sure why. It was also slightly pink for quite some time. Just 2 weeks ago my hair stylist told me the scar is much whiter now (that was her way of saying it looks more like my scalp color. Despite this slow return to it's original state, I got outstanding growth from the grafts. In addition to Cortisone injections for the scars raised state, look into Pulse dye laser, 1540 fractional laser, and IPL laser for redness. Here's a little info from a Plastics MD: Dr Seckel



          My plan is to graft one more time (may), let everything heal, then use laser to smooth and blend the tissue. I have been told by numerous Md's that both lasers I'm looking into will not harm the follicle.

          I hope this helps...

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          • northeastguy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 367

            #95
            This should give you a good look at the scars pre-procedure.

            @ jetfan..... Have you been using Rogaine foam? May aid in stimulating the regrownth of that shock loss. Can't hurt.
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            • northeastguy
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 367

              #96
              2nd Session

              On MayTh I will be going to see Dr Cole for my 2nd and hopefully last session to graft into the scars. It will be 11 months from the 1st session. This time all the focus will be on the scars only. I have limited donor from the sides of my head and the rest will come from the beard. After 5 strips, 2 scars, and a 1000 Fue procedure, my donor (mostly Back) is pretty much exhausted. I'm hoping to grab 2 and 3 hair grafts from the sides and all the singles from the beard. Pack those scars in one more time and make them history.

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              • gillenator
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 1415

                #97
                Originally posted by northeastguy
                On MayTh I will be going to see Dr Cole for my 2nd and hopefully last session to graft into the scars. It will be 11 months from the 1st session. This time all the focus will be on the scars only. I have limited donor from the sides of my head and the rest will come from the beard. After 5 strips, 2 scars, and a 1000 Fue procedure, my donor (mostly Back) is pretty much exhausted. I'm hoping to grab 2 and 3 hair grafts from the sides and all the singles from the beard. Pack those scars in one more time and make them history.
                I continue to wish you the very best in your repair journey and let us know how everything turns out. Your making some great progress to date.
                "Gillenator"
                Independent Patient Advocate
                more.hair@verizon.net

                NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                • northeastguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 367

                  #98
                  Thanks Gill for all your support. Very much appreciated. May 17th is the Date... noticed the typo on my post.

                  Few Photo's to post.....

                  First Photo is #6 guard. It was the shortest I could cut my hair. When wet, everything was visible.

                  Second photo was taken just prior to being shaved down At Dr Cole's office for the procedure. It is a #2 guard cut. My ultimate goal..... shorter if we can make it happen.

                  Third photo was taken at Dr Cole's office 3 weeks ago. It is a #3-#4 guard cut.
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                  • jetfan11
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 100

                    #99
                    scar graft

                    NE Guy,

                    I am so happy for you. Going to cole to do the same thing. Question for you the 3rd photo (where you look great btw) where your at 3/4 guard. Exactly how many scar grafting surgeries with Cole and how many grafts total.

                    Thanks again for posting and sharing very selfless. Its a huge help to me personally.

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                    • northeastguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 367

                      Originally posted by jetfan11
                      NE Guy,

                      I am so happy for you. Going to Cole to do the same thing. Question for you the 3rd photo (where you look great btw) where your at 3/4 guard. Exactly how many scar grafting surgeries with Cole and how many grafts total.

                      Thanks again for posting and sharing very selfless. Its a huge help to me personally.
                      That is after 1 session of 720 grafts total in both scars. They were mostly single and double hair grafts. Knowing this, I should need no more than 1/2 that to create a consistent density within the scars and scalp around them. Say 200-350? Whatever it takes to wrap this up. obviously, that'll be up to Dr Cole once I'm in the chair and certain factors.....how many 2 and 3 hair grafts we get from the sides and the fact beard hair has a larger diameter than scalp hair.

                      detailed image of the scars...
                      Attached Files

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                      • northeastguy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 367

                        Originally posted by jetfan11
                        NE Guy,

                        I am so happy for you. Going to cole to do the same thing. Question for you the 3rd photo (where you look great btw) where your at 3/4 guard. Exactly how many scar grafting surgeries with Cole and how many grafts total.

                        Thanks again for posting and sharing very selfless. Its a huge help to me personally.
                        When are you going for your appointment?

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                        • jetfan11
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 100

                          scar graft

                          NE guy,

                          Thats amazing to fill 2 scars with 7 just 720 grafts. If you do 1 more pass you may have completely eliminated the scars altogether.

                          Regardless if my shockloss comes back I am totally doing this with Cole. I am petrified to use my donor hair as after this latest disaster surgery my donor looks a bit thin for sure.

                          I wonder if Cole could do my entire scar with beard hair. Oddly my beard hair is identical to my hair-coarse and wiry. Plus they are super thick. If they grew I could see them providing awesome coverage.

                          If anyone from Cole's office knows if you could do an entire strip scar with beard hair I would love to know.

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                          • 35YrsAfter
                            Doctor Representative
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1418

                            Originally posted by jetfan11
                            NE guy,

                            Thats amazing to fill 2 scars with 7 just 720 grafts. If you do 1 more pass you may have completely eliminated the scars altogether.

                            Regardless if my shockloss comes back I am totally doing this with Cole. I am petrified to use my donor hair as after this latest disaster surgery my donor looks a bit thin for sure.

                            I wonder if Cole could do my entire scar with beard hair. Oddly my beard hair is identical to my hair-coarse and wiry. Plus they are super thick. If they grew I could see them providing awesome coverage.

                            If anyone from Cole's office knows if you could do an entire strip scar with beard hair I would love to know.
                            I just asked Dr. Cole about only using beard hair to fix your scar. He said 100% beard hair should be fine. He recommends ACell with this type of repair.

                            35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office

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                            • northeastguy
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 367

                              Thanks for chiming in 35yrs. I have to believe there are a lot of people out there who use beard hair only for scar grafting and do just fine. If you have it, and it's similar to your scalp hair, use it! Beard hair is larger in diameter than scalp hair so you actually get more coverage.

                              Interesting video....



                              I don't know this MD, but the information is helpful for those interested in grafting with beard hair. I can accurately say I did a hell of a lot better than 67-80% survival rate with the work I had done with Dr Cole. 35 yrs.... would be nice to see you guys put together an education video like this. maybe include the benifits of Acell?

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                              • Stevie R
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 235

                                Looking good NE guy, I bet this next pass can get you at a 1 guard. I have been noticing a lot of difference every week now as I am coming on 4 months, I will cut a little piece of around my donor area to a zero, about the size of a penny and see if I have any white dotting but I can't see any with a 2 guard and when I look as I pull back my hair, have you thought of doing that as well? Have you decided on doing recell yet or are you gonna go with the palomar laser? I was thinking of doing the palomar laser first then recell as those results look good with the palomar...not sure yet though...I was wondering though, you said the hairs at the bottom of your scar that go up give you hesitation when thinking about going down real low because they pop out at the eye and so on, have you thought about FUEing them out and then putting hairs in where they were? I bet this would be a good idea if the doc in in sync with ya, not that I can see it at a 3 guard or even a 2 and I realize you may not want a 0 but just for others out there that may be thinking the same thing, what do you think?

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