Dr Rahal

[sausage]

Have been tipped Dr Rahal as a quality surgeon. And also looked at many posts about his work and so far so good.

Do you need to visit someone from his surgery for a consultation, do I have to go all the way to Switzerland just for a consultation? (im from UK). or do you just send them photos via the website and they simply make a decision from the photos?

Anyone know how long the waiting list is?

Please respond, thanks.

[doinmyheadin]

Goto to his website they have updated it recently . or try this link http://www.rahalhairtransplant.com/s...-consultation/

From personal experience I would have a look at some results of people with transplants in person. Photos are not the same thing. Talk to people who have actually had a transplant. The hair will soften after a year or more but it will never be as soft and manageable as your original hair. I dont know why whether it is scar tissue around the graft or what. See people who have similar hair characteristics as yourself with transplanted hair as this plays a major roll in the illusion of density. Dont be fooled by photos, Think about it no matter how good the surgeon is if your original density is 90 hair units per cm and you have hair transplanted at 35-40 or even 60 units in the hairline will it look the same? Have a look at a friend or family members hairline close up who has not got mpb. There is very fine soft hair stacked very close together in the hairline which makes it look natural. No matter how good a surgeon is it will never look as natural as a natural hairline. Please dont go throwing your job in and waisting the good part of a year hiding from people close to you.

Do some more research at least 3-6 months. Are you on Propecia? And have real expectations based on the above.
And if you then have your mind made up go for it, Rahal is up there in the top 2 or 3 surgeons. I would rate him number 1.

[sausage]

Goto to his website they have updated it recently . or try this link http://www.rahalhairtransplant.com/s...-consultation/

From personal experience I would have a look at some results of people with transplants in person. Photos are not the same thing. Talk to people who have actually had a transplant. The hair will soften after a year or more but it will never be as soft and manageable as your original hair. I dont know why whether it is scar tissue around the graft or what. See people who have similar hair characteristics as yourself with transplanted hair as this plays a major roll in the illusion of density. Dont be fooled by photos, Think about it no matter how good the surgeon is if your original density is 90 hair units per cm and you have hair transplanted at 35-40 or even 60 units in the hairline will it look the same? Have a look at a friend or family members hairline close up who has not got mpb. There is very fine soft hair stacked very close together in the hairline which makes it look natural. No matter how good a surgeon is it will never look as natural as a natural hairline. Please dont go throwing your job in and waisting the good part of a year hiding from people close to you.

Do some more research at least 3-6 months. Are you on Propecia? And have real expectations based on the above.
And if you then have your mind made up go for it, Rahal is up there in the top 2 or 3 surgeons. I would rate him number 1.

What I have seen is good enough for me to say I am happy with people's results, I don't really think its possible to meet someone who has had a transplant and see the result for real. I understand its not going to be exactly the same as a normal head of hair but it will be 100x better than a bald head. As I have mentioned in previous posts Wayne Rooney an English footballer had his done recently at a clinic in London which is not a rated clinic for HT's and his results are amazing, if a surgeon who is not known for their transplant skills can achieve those results then what Dr Rahal should be able to achieve should be just as good or better.

I have looked into many hair restoration things for the 10 years I have been balding I do not think I need to look any longer. I do not agree with Propecia, I believe it to be a load of rubbish, if it worked no1 would be bald.

The main reason I am confident and happy to go for a hair transplant is because of Wayne Rooneys result. Just looking at his hair now proves to me that hair transplants work (I think) I still have my doubts that he's possibly quite thin up top but is chucking consealants on his head. I also don't know if it will fall out in the longer term but I don't really have time to see him progress, I am 27 and need to have it done this year really. Ideally I wish he had it done a year to 2 years ago to see how it was after that period of time then I would know for sure if it has worked.

But hey ho......I aim to get it done this year.

There are other British celebrities that have had it done and their hair looks great so from what I have seen hair transplants can truly create awesome results. Jude Law has recently been wearing hats a lot, he even wore one on a british chat show, I expect he has had something done, I guess we will find out soon. He said he wears hats to cover up a ridiculous hair style that he has for a new film - not to sure about that, hopefully he has has something done as I would love to see him have great results, that would make me go for a transplant even more if his went well.

[Follicle Death Row]

What Rooney's hair looks like sans concealers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2070712/Wayne-Rooneys-hair-appears-thinning--just-months-30-000-transplant.html

Bear in mind he won't be 1 year post op until June. I reckon he's had about 3000 grafts by FUE and will go back for another 2000-3000 again in the summer.

[sausage]

What Rooney's hair looks like sans concealers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2070712/Wayne-Rooneys-hair-appears-thinning--just-months-30-000-transplant.html

Bear in mind he won't be 1 year post op until June. I reckon he's had about 3000 grafts by FUE and will go back for another 2000-3000 again in the summer.

really? to fill in the thinness of the implant?

I think this Daily Mail article is all a load of balls. I read it the other day.
His hair does look thinner in some of those photos but those photos were taken whilst at least 3 camera men were constantly taking photos with their bright flashes going off so its not really a surprise it shows up thin. I watched the match against Newcastle on Wednesday and his hair did not look thin at all.- Could be using concealers but I will never know.

Since he got his transplant enquiries have gone up 60% if his hair falls out I don't think anyone in the UK will ever be interested in a hair transplant. This is a HUGE publicity thing for Hair Transplants if this goes wrong then its really going to ruin the industry in the UK.

I do want to see how his progresses before I decide to have a HT but don't have much time.

As far as I remember Rooney has not had any shock loss which is unusual isn't it? does this surprise anyone?

Do concealers work in the rain and not come off if you touch your hair?
I ask this beacuse Rooney obviously plays in the rain and his team mates always touch his hair when he scores. I personally would hate to wear concealer.

[Follicle Death Row]

Of course the article is full of $h!t. However those pictures are representative of his hair without concealers. He got FUE so shockloss wasn't too big a problem. In 2 days they probably managed about 3000 grafts. Another 2000 or so would beef up some of the areas; maybe the hairline and crown. After that he'd probably save the rest for further progression of hairloss.

He is 100% wearing concealers still during games. Dermmatch does not come off in the rain. You can even see that he starts the concealer almost on the top of the sides and back.

[Spex]

Careful FDR, You will get called a hater if your not careful

See my comments regarding recent other so called celebs and thier remarkable HT's

[sausage]

Of course the article is full of $h!t. However those pictures are representative of his hair without concealers. He got FUE so shockloss wasn't too big a problem. In 2 days they probably managed about 3000 grafts. Another 2000 or so would beef up some of the areas; maybe the hairline and crown. After that he'd probably save the rest for further progression of hairloss.

He is 100% wearing concealers still during games. Dermmatch does not come off in the rain. You can even see that he starts the concealer almost on the top of the sides and back.

Its a bit odd... the 2 photos of him in the red tie obviously taken within minutes of each other are quite different one shows his hair to be thin, the closer up one looks fine....although he looks ginger in that one, his hair does appear to change colour its gone from light brown to ginger to dark brown...I guess that is a sign of concealers or he is dying his hair. I understand you think he is using concealers but I just would not be able to be certain of that unless Rooney told me that himself.

You say you think he will have more work done in the Summer....do you think he purposely tried to get sent off against Montenegro so that he didn't go to the Euro's so he could get his hair done instead?

[sausage]

Careful FDR, You will get called a hater if your not careful

See my comments regarding recent other so called celebs and thier remarkable HT's

So your against hair transplants? I thought you were running a consultation day in London. :S

Although his hair looks skraggy and a bit thin in some of those daily mail photos I guess it looks much better than when he was bald, possibly growing it longer and styling it well (without concealers) he might still get a more thickened look.

It such a pain in the butt just trying to know exactly what kind of result to expect when some/all celebrities are thought to wear concealers. I ideally need to actually see someone that has had its done but thats pretty much impossible. Can you send someone over (who isn't wearing concealers).

[Follicle Death Row]

You say you think he will have more work done in the Summer....do you think he purposely tried to get sent off against Montenegro so that he didn't go to the Euro's so he could get his hair done instead?

Hell no. I don't think he'd go that far. He's clearly very passionate about playing for the national side. His form suffered when they hit him with that ban. I actually forgot about the Euros. He'd still have time after the Euros to get a second pass and recover in time for the start of the new season I think.

[sausage]

Hell no. I don't think he'd go that far. He's clearly very passionate about playing for the national side. His form suffered when they hit him with that ban. I actually forgot about the Euros. He'd still have time after the Euros to get a second pass and recover in time for the start of the new season I think.

It just came to mind as soon as I read that you think he will have another HT this summer, I thought to myself does he have the summer free and thought no the Euro's then thought about his red card and ban and put 2 and 2 together.

Simply because it was a ridiculous foul, booting someone in the leg, it was so unnecessary, England were going through to the Euro's and that Montenegro player did nothing to provoke him so it made me think that maybe he was trying to get out of the Euro's so he has time for a HT and to recover.

I know it seems a crazy thought, but you never know, Rooney is a little crazy + we all know how hairloss affects ourselves and others. Personally if I was Rooney my hair would be more important to me than a Euro tournament. But yes it is probably far fetched and yes he probably still will have time to get it done after, or even before the Euro's start.

[mattj]

Hi Sausage,

Have you had a consultation yet? Dr Rahal should be in the UK this year, but no dates are set. You can always send photos, either to me or through the website.

It might be possible to speak to UK-based patients, depending on the practicalities like how close you are to each other.

If I can be of assistance then just give me a shout.

[doinmyheadin]

What I have seen is good enough for me to say I am happy with people's results, I don't really think its possible to meet someone who has had a transplant and see the result for real. I understand its not going to be exactly the same as a normal head of hair but it will be 100x better than a bald head. As I have mentioned in previous posts Wayne Rooney an English footballer had his done recently at a clinic in London which is not a rated clinic for HT's and his results are amazing, if a surgeon who is not known for their transplant skills can achieve those results then what Dr Rahal should be able to achieve should be just as good or better.

I have looked into many hair restoration things for the 10 years I have been balding I do not think I need to look any longer. I do not agree with Propecia, I believe it to be a load of rubbish, if it worked no1 would be bald.

The main reason I am confident and happy to go for a hair transplant is because of Wayne Rooneys result. Just looking at his hair now proves to me that hair transplants work (I think) I still have my doubts that he's possibly quite thin up top but is chucking consealants on his head. I also don't know if it will fall out in the longer term but I don't really have time to see him progress, I am 27 and need to have it done this year really. Ideally I wish he had it done a year to 2 years ago to see how it was after that period of time then I would know for sure if it has worked.

But hey ho......I aim to get it done this year.

There are other British celebrities that have had it done and their hair looks great so from what I have seen hair transplants can truly create awesome results. Jude Law has recently been wearing hats a lot, he even wore one on a british chat show, I expect he has had something done, I guess we will find out soon. He said he wears hats to cover up a ridiculous hair style that he has for a new film - not to sure about that, hopefully he has has something done as I would love to see him have great results, that would make me go for a transplant even more if his went well.

There is a reason probably 8 out of 10 hair transplant doctors would recommend you get on propecia (includind Dr Rahal). As it has a 83% or something chance of maintaining the hair you have and maybe slight thickening. Also have a look at #hairtransplant network blog# for peoples own photos of there tranplants to give you a good idea if you have not already. If you develope into a norward 6 or 7, 6000 grafts unless you have excellent hair characteristics (curly, frizzy or wavy or not to contrasted hair to skin colour) aint gonna cover much. The spacing between your arm hair will be similar.
Also Spex might be able to organize to meet someone in the Uk or even Dr Rahal would have patients who might be able to meet up in person to see there results.
Propecia may something to have a second think about as there are treatments such as Histogen, Replical, and Aderans which may (hopefully) not be too far off and if you can keep alot of the hair you have this would be helpful to you.
Not trying to put you off a transplant just trying to help.

[Follicle Death Row]

The one thing that worried me was when I saw Dr. Dan McGrath (hope I'm getting the name right, apologies if not) say that propecia is beneficial for HTs even if the patient is a norwood 5 or 6. This got me wondering and I quizzed him on it. He replied saying that it's undeniable that propecia has an effect even on the donor hair from the safe zone, helping to increase or maintain the hair shaft diameter (calibre). That therefore supposedly makes it important for maximising coverage with the transplanted hair in the recipient. It's a little worrying to say the least but I haven't seen that discussed anywhere else.

However, you must bear in mind that the top docs still plan to use your donor in such away that should propecia lose it's effectiveness and you progress to a nw6 you'll have enough to have some decent coverage and a nice result. I guess everyone wants FUE but to get maximum numbers you'd have to look at a combo of FUT and FUE long term. Some people are fortunate to be able to extract near to 9000 over say 3 strips and then add another 2000ish by FUE. This sort of plan is expensive but it may be what some of the younger guys would need to meet their expect lofty expectations.

I think you have to consider that propecia may well lose it's effectiveness over time and you have to plan for going to norwood 6. I personally think the docs need to have a plan for up to 240cm2 of baldness, even for that norwood 2.5 young guy (mid to late 20s) with a family history of norwood 4 at worst. You could make a case that if a young man had very good donor and can get 11,000 over a lifetime by all methods and provide "50% density" all over including the crown. It's just very important that the patient knows what could happen down the line. If you go nw7 though you're in trouble and this is the risk they take.

It can be done without propecia it's just that you'll find yourself back in the chair a lot sooner looking to bulk up the first one. He's an example where I believe the patient decided not to take propecia. I believe he's had around 7300 or maybe it was 7500 with another strip of 2500 left I think if he needs it down the line. Unless of course Dr. Feller meant that the patient's remaining 2500-2800 was by FUE only. Correct me if I have the numbers wrong Spex.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2326

I understand that some want to start with FUE and tap into those reserves first (I'd probably feel this way at the moment) and play a wait and see game for both their hair loss progression and to see if say 10 years down the line there's a nice cellular therapy that maintains or restores the crown forever. While expensive that's fair enough and would be something I might consider. Worst case scenario though you'd have to be prepared to do FUT down the line if you want a good head of hair.

Lastly I think the HD videos are giving us all a much better idea of the reality of the situation re transplants. Hasson and Wong have a fantastic video gallery. I think the IAHRS should make it mandatory to advertise patients results (at least in house documentation that is posted by the clinics) in HD video.

[sausage]

I will always be sceptical about Propecia, I don't really believe what they claim.

I looked into all that Minoxidil and Propecia stuff when I first started losing my hair and eventually convinced myself its all a load of balls.

I have always thought to myself: If these medications worked I think everyone would know about it, Propecia is not advertised anywhere. They have only recently started advertising Minoxidil which in my eyes is a useless con.

I may be wrong but thats how I feel about it and I don't think that would change.

If I had surgery and a transplant surgeon recommended Propecia I would probably give it a go just on the slight chance and hope that it would help. The surgeons obviously make money from selling Propecia on to their customers and also want you to take it - not cos they are confident it works (I doubt they really know the real effects it has for sure) but also in the hope that it will work and therefore potentially help in making you a satisfied customer.

I do remember buying some kind of pills about 8 years ago - must have been Propecia, cost me an arm and a leg, I was a student at the time, I think I bought a very small amount of pills for £300, biggest waste of money I have ever spent, would have been better sticking grass to my head with a pritt stick.

So they are my views on the wishy washy hair loss prevention medications out there.

There is officially no cure for baldness. Thats a fact.