why dont HT surgeons sport transplants??

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  • funkyrimpler
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 17

    why dont HT surgeons sport transplants??

    ive been researching the murky world of HT with a view to possibly having a procedure...ive found some disturbing, misleading and contradictory info out there..
    anyway, checking the numerous websites of the transplant mills and surgeons private clinics, has anyone ever noticed that;

    THERE ARE NUMEROUS BALD(ING) HT SURGEONS OUT THERE....WHY DONT THEY HAVE A HAIR TRANSPLANT?!?!

    i just thought it was quite curious...even some of the most respected names in the business...i wonder why none of them seem to have elected to undertake this surgery?

    I dont expect too many replies-i havent had any replies on any other 'difficult' questions...but icertainly thought it was worth raising the issue.
    As a Norwood 2 @40 yrs of age ive got it pretty good, although im continue to shed gradually (my dad is still norwood 1!!)...

    im starting to think that maybe the consequences of an 'average' procedure, and then 2nd, 3rd or 4th consecutive procedure may be worse than being balder than a baboons butt..
  • DAVE52
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 775

    #2
    They probably have accepted / embraced ( pick whatever word you want ) hairloss and it doesn't bother them like it does us

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    • Mr. 4000
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 288

      #3
      Originally posted by funkyrimpler
      ive been researching the murky world of HT with a view to possibly having a procedure...ive found some disturbing, misleading and contradictory info out there..
      anyway, checking the numerous websites of the transplant mills and surgeons private clinics, has anyone ever noticed that;

      THERE ARE NUMEROUS BALD(ING) HT SURGEONS OUT THERE....WHY DONT THEY HAVE A HAIR TRANSPLANT?!?!

      i just thought it was quite curious...even some of the most respected names in the business...i wonder why none of them seem to have elected to undertake this surgery?

      I dont expect too many replies-i havent had any replies on any other 'difficult' questions...but icertainly thought it was worth raising the issue.
      As a Norwood 2 @40 yrs of age ive got it pretty good, although im continue to shed gradually (my dad is still norwood 1!!)...

      im starting to think that maybe the consequences of an 'average' procedure, and then 2nd, 3rd or 4th consecutive procedure may be worse than being balder than a baboons butt..
      they are in it for the money, bottom line

      they know it isn't safe or a solution it just wouldn't make sense to tell the truth.

      don't do it

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      • mothernature
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 134

        #4
        why would you say HT is not safe?

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        • Mr. 4000
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 288

          #5
          Originally posted by mothernature
          why would you say HT is not safe?
          because they are doing something totally unnatural for your body. Cutting a chunk of your scalp out and stretching it to resurface your entire head again isn't really what I would consider safe or natural.

          They have to shoot you up with chemicals over and over again for pain.

          my doctor puncture or sliced a muscle in my neck by cutting too low. A neck injury is serious. I have had pain and weakness for over two years because of this incompetent phony. I have a scar tissue lump in my neck caused by him.

          I was expecting some stitches in and stitches out type of procedure, but got 5 trips to a neck doctor in return. 2 MRI's, a biopsy that I declined to go through, which has to add up to thousands of dollars.

          Dr. ALexander is counting my money.

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          • gillenator
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 1415

            #6
            There are in fact HT doctors that have the procedure done. I do know some of them but it is not my place to name them. The ones that I do know do in fact tell their patients if asked but the problem is that they had it done by one of their colleages and don't want to give their patients away.

            In other words, most of them feel that they do better work than the colleage who did their procedure. Otherwise if they were to start talking about what great work they had done themselves by doctor so and so, you might just drop what you are doing and "go to that doctor too".

            It's the ones that had the work done and "practice togethor" within the same clinic that are the most open about it.
            "Gillenator"
            Independent Patient Advocate
            more.hair@verizon.net

            NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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            • Locke
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 75

              #7
              Originally posted by Mr. 4000
              because they are doing something totally unnatural for your body. Cutting a chunk of your scalp out and stretching it to resurface your entire head again isn't really what I would consider safe or natural.

              They have to shoot you up with chemicals over and over again for pain.

              my doctor puncture or sliced a muscle in my neck by cutting too low. A neck injury is serious. I have had pain and weakness for over two years because of this incompetent phony. I have a scar tissue lump in my neck caused by him.

              I was expecting some stitches in and stitches out type of procedure, but got 5 trips to a neck doctor in return. 2 MRI's, a biopsy that I declined to go through, which has to add up to thousands of dollars.

              Dr. ALexander is counting my money.
              Hello Mr. 4000,

              I'm sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation but to write off hair transplants as being something unnatural is a bit of faulty logic. There are numerous other medical procedures done that are completely unnatural. For example, someone who has cancer on their tongue will have it removed. The surgeons can then take muscle from the leg or arm and use it to replace that part of the tongue. Completely unnatural but it serves a purpose.

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              • VictimOfDHT
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 747

                #8
                I tell you what's unnatural, it's being bald. Having a spot of bare skin in the middle of your head -where there used to be hair- is unnatural and freakish and plain ugly. These days people have all kinds of procedures done on their bodies. People using eyes, kidneys, hands and even faces of other DEAD people. Now, compare that to having hairs from your own body moved around a few inches to the front and tell me which is unnatural. It's no different than having skin grafts for burn victims. So, I just don't know what's unnatural about HTs.

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                • Mr. 4000
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 288

                  #9
                  i understand the points made here and they are valid.

                  If you had a procedure you would know exactly what Im talking about. YOu have to know what it feels like and see what it looks like to really know.

                  I am trying my best to write about it to help others, but it is never the same as the experience. Believe me.

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                  • VictimOfDHT
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 747

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mr. 4000
                    i understand the points made here and they are valid.

                    If you had a procedure you would know exactly what Im talking about. YOu have to know what it feels like and see what it looks like to really know.

                    I am trying my best to write about it to help others, but it is never the same as the experience. Believe me.
                    Dude, I've had 5 HTs. That's right, 5. It's just that I'm one unlucky SOB that a lot of my transplanted hair keeps falling out. Believe me, if I had an endless supply of hair I'd keep getting HTs until the last day of my miserable life. I know it's (HT) NOT the best thing in the world, but I'd do anything to not be bald.

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                    • wylie
                      Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 89

                      #11
                      I know exactly why they didn't get them in the 80's and much of the 90's, it's because they didn't want to look like their disfigured freak patients. I mean, how can you take a 5 to 10mm plug of hair and space them out across someone's bald head and tell them they look great? Some of these dudes are still in business today, I know who they are, and their excuse that "they were using technology consistent with the times" doesn't mean they thought the work they were turning out was good. Once a shyster, always a shyster.

                      On the other hand, it does seem to be a conflict of interest for a HT doctor to have another surgeon work on him. Does he want to tell everyone his great HT was done by another doctor when he is trying to get your money?

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                      • 67mph
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 216

                        #12
                        I know what you mean funkyripler.

                        Would anyone go to see a dentist that had bad teeth?
                        Anyone go see a doctor that smoked?
                        Take your car to a mechanic that drove around in a dodgy old banger?

                        It is a valid point but i know impo i'd rather see a ht doc that practised what they preached, meaning, if a doc had what was considered a good donor area but bald then what's that about, fair enough if they didn't have a choice but come on!

                        Oh and someone had put that a doctor might not want to give away the info on the doctor they used for their ht, not sure i get that, if the doc is a good guy he'd gladly tell you his experience and let you know he has the very same hang-ups as the rest of us right?

                        Keep the 'difficult questions' coming funkyripler some forum members take the bite sooner or later/see your thread sooner or later, i also ask a difficult question now amd then so now where you're coming from.

                        Regards,
                        57mph

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                        • gillenator
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1415

                          #13
                          Quoted by Wylie:

                          On the other hand, it does seem to be a conflict of interest for a HT doctor to have another surgeon work on him. Does he want to tell everyone his great HT was done by another doctor when he is trying to get your money?


                          Obviously the doctor cannot perform the transplant procedure on himself, and only another doctor can do it. Like us, they want to chose someone talented.
                          "Gillenator"
                          Independent Patient Advocate
                          more.hair@verizon.net

                          NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                          • funkyrimpler
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 17

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gillenator
                            Quoted by Wylie:

                            On the other hand, it does seem to be a conflict of interest for a HT doctor to have another surgeon work on him. Does he want to tell everyone his great HT was done by another doctor when he is trying to get your money?


                            which sort of confirms that all the surgeons are REALLY interested in, is financial extraction...

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                            • Follicle Death Row
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1058

                              #15
                              Originally posted by funkyrimpler
                              which sort of confirms that all the surgeons are REALLY interested in, is financial extraction...
                              That's actually the reason I don't like free consultations. If you have to pay quite a lot for an hour appointment then the doc is under less financial pressure to make a sale so to speak. The guy I went to to understand my options (I was curious about finasteride and wanted a script) was really informative and ethical. He never even really mentioned HT but just said it's always an option years down the line, nothing more. He also pointed out that most don't go for it (only 1 in 5 in his experience) and that it's often best to come to terms with it.

                              With the free consultations you can be sure that many are really looking to make a sale. Might be a bit naive to think every HT doc has the patient's best interests at heart.

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