Are there HT Doctors in the US that stand by their work

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  • ejj
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 338

    #31
    if i could turn back the clock , i would have fue only , with an extremely reputable Dr who constantly produces good results and uses a manual punch no bigger than .8 mm in external diameter , i would take a go slow approach and only graft into the frontal forlock about an inch, possibly two, back from the frontal hairline . I think this is a safe way to weigh things up and with the progression of hairloss that is almost guaranteed ,you maintain the option to shave down later on in life if circumstances change

    Thats what I wish i had done , hope it helps

    Best
    Ejj

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    • Mr. 4000
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 288

      #32
      ejj

      that is a good post, some of these dreamers think strip is a valid option for most men and it isn't. It is high risk with a history of poor success.

      Most doctors are turning to FUE because they know the facts, they see it in their office everyday.

      With strip the results are temporary unless you are female or lucky

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      • Mr. 4000
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 288

        #33
        The patient does have some responsibility here though. The patient is part of the team - and the patient needs to be an active member of that team. If the patient does not fully understand something the doctor or staff is telling them, the patient needs to speak up. It is not the doctor’s fault if the patient does not speak up when they do not fully understand. It is ultimately the patient’s decision to go through with the procedure. If a patient is not fully aware of and fully understand the possibilities and limitations, the patient should not go forward with the procedure.
        This statement is really disturbing, you are assuming the doctors are going to educate the patient on the thing that can go wrong, and show some patients that had poor result or even sued them for that matter.

        They are selling a service and want big money, they want to profit, plain and simple. Especially in a tuff economy.

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        • DepressedByHairLoss
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 854

          #34
          This is why I'm so against these hair transplants; I hear so many people who regret even having them in the first place. And even if they do go right, you don't even get close to original density and you're scarred for life as well. It's so inexcusable, frustrating, and maddening that it is 2011 and we still don't have any kind of effective remedy for hair loss.

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          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3083

            #35
            Originally posted by Mr. 4000
            This statement is really disturbing, you are assuming the doctors are going to educate the patient on the thing that can go wrong, and show some patients that had poor result or even sued them for that matter.
            There is nothing disturbing about that statement. You are reaching.

            I am sorry you had such a bad experience. There is nothing I can do for you to make it better. However, for you to continue making the claim that your bad experience is typical is just plain unethical. If bad experiences such as yours were actually typical, hair transplant surgeons would have been put out of business a long time ago. The public would not tolerate it, plain and simple.



            Originally posted by Mr. 4000
            With strip the results are temporary unless you are female or lucky
            This is a false statement.



            Originally posted by Mr. 4000
            that is a good post, some of these dreamers think strip is a valid option for most men and it isn't. It is high risk with a history of poor success.

            This is another false statement. Though the risk with strip procedures is high, the success rate is actually very good. Mr. 4000's bad experience is NOT typical.

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            • Winston
              Moderator
              • Mar 2009
              • 929

              #36
              I think Tracy C is right-on with her statements. The problem here is that Mr. 4000 had what he considers to be a very bad outcome and has made it his life’s mission to trash hair transplants in general. We have never seen any of his before and after pictures so no one really knows how his hair transplant turned out. For all we know he could look great. He has posted inaccurate statements about hair transplant like Tracy C has pointed out including the ridiculous statement that “With strip the results are temporary unless you are female or lucky” and that “Most doctors are turning to FUE because they know the facts, they see it in their office everyday. (not even close to being true) And that FUT can “cause your hairline and sides to be pulled back exposing more temple area.” All completely inaccurate and false statements.

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              • ejj
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 338

                #37
                Unfortunatly the buisness of repairing poor hair transplants is still common .

                I have had people contact me who are really upset with there results/donor scar , however for whatever reason , be it legal, or fear, do not share there results with the community , which is a shame , I wonder if the online community had a poll on how satisfied patients were what the results would be ?....

                At the end of the day we can only hope for the best, and at best a 1 mm in width scar from ear to ear with guaranteed continual balding is unnaceptable to me as the more work you will definantly need in the future puts more pressure on the donor area increasing the risk of a poor scar with each procedure . I think as patients get more educated the demand for FUE is rising forcing Drs to offer it , hence the continual release of new ` fue auto ` tools ,scribes , robots etc `

                I have seen good strip procedures but it does concern me seeing patients with there hairline lowered, or temples filled in with 2k grafts or norwood 3`s having lots of grafts , there locked in to further work later on in life

                regards ejj

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                • gmonasco
                  Inactive
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 865

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tracy C
                  If bad experiences such as yours were actually typical, hair transplant surgeons would have been put out of business a long time ago. The public would not tolerate it, plain and simple.
                  Not necessarily. The public may not be aware such experiences might be typical, as HT surgeons obviously feature only their best results in their presentations to prospective patients. Publicizing bad results is up to the individual patients who have suffered them, and who often lack the motivation or desire to do so.

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                  • Mr. 4000
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 288

                    #39
                    and are often PAID OFF to do so


                    Dr. Alexander tried to buy my silence

                    this is something I can prove, because I told him I would sign off

                    he mailed me the papers with a dollar amount and other terms

                    I keep the papers but never signed them

                    I also have him in a recorded phone conversation addressing the issue as well

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                    • Mr. 4000
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 288

                      #40
                      I was wondering if we could see you photos Tracy C and Winston

                      I mean you seam to be very happy yet Tracy you even sited that you density isn't what it used to be and could be better.

                      Winston I think I recall you saying that you had HT's before but could you tell us about your experiences?

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Mr. 4000
                        I mean you seam to be very happy yet Tracy you even sited that you density isn't what it used to be and could be better.
                        I am happy with what Dr. Haber was able to do for me. Yes I would like more density. However, I went into this very well aware that it is not yet possible to restore original density. Dr. Haber didn't lie to me. He was honest and truthful. He made sure to explain everything to me. I made sure I understood everything he told me. He was honest with me and I was honest with him. It was a team effort.

                        Mr. 4000, you are an extraordinarily unreasonable person. I am truly sorry for what happened to you. However I am now convinced that there was no way you were ever going to be happy no matter what the outcome of your surgery was.

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                        • DepressedByHairLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 854

                          #42
                          I dunno but personally I think Mr. 4000 is legit. After all, he invites Dr. Alexander to come on here to discuss his situation yet I don't see the doctor rebutting his claims at all. I see Dr. Alexander all over the place on here, yet he does not come on to refute Mr. 4000's claims. If some one was supposedly spreading lies about me on here, then I would be very quick to point out that those claims were false.
                          In terms of botched hair transplants, I believe that they are still as prevalent as ever. There are people all over the internet (and on this website) that are victims of botched transplants. After all, Bosley is generating millions of dollars with their transplants and people on here know what a piece-of-shit, unethical company that they are. I just don't think that a lot of people are aware of all the butchery that goes on in the hair transplant industry, especially with regards to chain facilities like Bosley and NHI. Hell even some dermatologists are clueless with regards to this. Case in point: I went to see my dermatologist about a month ago to get my Propecia prescription re-filled and I was talking to her about ways to treat hair loss. She suggested a hair transplant and stated that Bosley "has a great reputation and is a very ethical company". It's a shame when even dermatologists are unaware of the unethical nature of a good deal of the hair restoration industry.

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                          • Tracy C
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3083

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                            I dunno but personally I think Mr. 4000 is legit.
                            For the record, I don't know if Mr. 4000 is legit or not. He hasn't provided any proof. However, he has demonstrated that he is an extraordinarily unreasonable person. That makes it very difficult to tell if he is legit or not - or if his story is an exaggeration or not... That does not change how sorry I feel about what happened to him though.

                            From a professional and legal stand point, Dr. Alexander is doing the right thing by staying quiet about it. It is in his best interest to speak only to people of authority concerning this matter. Every conflict has at least two sides to the story. The truth has a way of working its way to the surface eventually.

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                            • DepressedByHairLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 854

                              #44
                              Fair enough. I forgot to consider the legal ramifications of keeping quiet. But I think we can establish that at least Mr. 4000 did have a hair transplant from Dr. Alexander. If this wasn't the case, then I don't see what kind of negative legal ramifications it would have for Dr. Alexander to say "I've never met this guy, he never came into my office, I don't know who he is". But yeah, I totally sympathize with Mr. 4000's situation; bad hair transplants can cause a lifetime of permanent damage.

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                              • gavinmulls02
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Tracy C
                                For the record, I don't know if Mr. 4000 is legit or not. He hasn't provided any proof. However, he has demonstrated that he is an extraordinarily unreasonable person. That makes it very difficult to tell if he is legit or not - or if his story is an exaggeration or not... That does not change how sorry I feel about what happened to him though.

                                From a professional and legal stand point, Dr. Alexander is doing the right thing by staying quiet about it. It is in his best interest to speak only to people of authority concerning this matter. Every conflict has at least two sides to the story. The truth has a way of working its way to the surface eventually.
                                I read the entire thread and, I have to say, I agree with Tracy C. I understand that Mr. 4000 probably had a horrible, horrible experience with his HT, but his hostility is really...I don't even have words to describe it. Even from his very first posts in this thread, he was already taunting. Saying things like "come out doctors" and some such. And it's so odd that he failed to get Tracy's point about the patient being "part of a team," and how honesty from the patient is just as important as honestly from the medical team.

                                Also, about the phone conversation he recorded... I don't think that's legal.

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