ACell, a Current Review of Applications in Hair Transplant Surgery

[PatientlyWaiting]

How does this benefit some one with a receding hairline and some thinning on the top? Like do I have to do an FUE or strip transplant, or is there some kind of vaccine being developed for people that don't want hair transplant? In other words, do I need to go through plucking or FUE/strip in order to benefit from this? Or can I just be injected with PRP+ACell and make my native hair stronger and longer?

I read through the whole thread and sort of understand, i'm new to this, but can some one answer my question. Is some kind of a hair transplant needed, whether plucking or something?

[Spanish Dude]

And this is how it should have been presented. Its a simulation (I got a google pic, and modified it)

[Spanish Dude]

lets remind again the photos:

Quote Dr. Hitzig:
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Patient had transplant approximately 1 year ago. The right half of the donor was sutured normally, the left half was sutured normally and injected with ACell suspension (Spun down Arterial Blood)

NOTE THE EXTREMELY FINE LINE ON THE LEFT WITH HAIR GROWING THROUGH IT.
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[RichardDawkins]

Ok then lets see what he has to say then ;-) right now iam still positive towards the pictures but consider your arguments valid.

And to be fair i hope you guys are wrong ;-)

[Spanish Dude]

lol - Why did he only shave 'below' the scar aswel? You have a point - if this finding was as significant as it is made out i'd expect a grade 1 (full shave of donor area) all over the back to clearly show a white line on the right and barely anything on the left. Also a few close-ups and possibly a hair count!

Thats it, and also the "just after surgery" photos, to see the "beginning of the process", the initial state of the wound.

[UK_]

I have posted it before in this thread I think.
Here it is again (2003, autocloning beard hairs without Acell):

lol - Why did he only shave 'below' the scar aswel? You have a point - if this finding was as significant as it is made out i'd expect a grade 1 (full shave of donor area) all over the back to clearly show a white line on the right and barely anything on the left. Also a few close-ups and possibly a hair count!

[Spanish Dude]

I have posted it before in this thread I think.
Here it is again (2003, autocloning beard hairs without Acell):

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=3857&mesg_id=3857&page=3

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Sat Jun-07-2003 10:23 PM
Dr. Hitzig has successfully done a series of 1-for-two hair transplants on 5 paitents using their beard hairs. The beard hairs are extracted using a tweezing protocol to remove the shaft and bulb while leaving the follicle intact. Approximately 80 percent to 85 percent of the transplanted hairs grew in the scalp, and the follicles left in the donor beard region continue to generate beard hairs.

"Our experience with this technique offers promise for men wishing to improve their appearance after an earlier hair transplantation procedure but who lack the donor supply for additional treatment. Further study may also lead us to the use of beard hairs as a source for in vitro cloning of scalp donor material, and if that technique is successful, we would be able to obtain an unlimited supply of donor hair and perhaps eradicate genetic baldness," said Dr. Hitzig.

According to Mr. Oz, the technology so far can only be used on beard hair since the surgical tweezers can NOT handle the much more smaller scalp hair, but the testining has been 95&#37; sucesful. In addition, they're are already testing in vitro to remove ONE single beard hair from a human and use that one hair to duplicate a series of hairs on a synthetic mantle ( artificial skin).

Check the following article for the whole story:

http://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatologytimes/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=47883

Dr. Hitzig's site also has a little information on this procedure:

http://www.nyhairloss.com/gsh-procedures.htm

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I have not included the mention of the lawsuit, as this is another matter.

Do you have a link where Dr Hitzig said 85% yield in 2003?

Ok then lets wait what Dr Hitzig has to say, because i think we are running around in circles here.

You can draw the line in MS Paint if you load up the picture there. I really doubt that you can shave the hair to create this kind of "Manipulation"

[RichardDawkins]

Do you have a link where Dr Hitzig said 85% yield in 2003?

Ok then lets wait what Dr Hitzig has to say, because i think we are running around in circles here.

You can draw the line in MS Paint if you load up the picture there. I really doubt that you can shave the hair to create this kind of "Manipulation"

[Spanish Dude]

1) Why should Dr Hitzig do this
why in 2003 did Hitzig say that beard autoplucking had a 85% yield?

2) What if Acell is as good as it should be and the scar is really nowhere to be seen of that. Even if you directly compare both sides those are differences like night and day.
*If* Acell really produces a scarless STRIP, then that would be great. What do you expect me to say?

When i look at the pictures i see this zig zag line also in the hair . Just look at the first picture in the upper left corner, you see the rest of the scar pretty clear there is some "bulky white" flesh and a spot without that much density. I mean the close up picture.

In the close up I cannot see any important irregularity that hints at a strip surgery. No zigzag, no change of colour, nothing. The main irregularity is caused by the imperfect shaving, and thus, some areas are cut shorter than others. Bulky White? Where? Note that the hair is parted. Below the partline the hairs (shaved hairs) point downwards, and above the partline the hairs (long hairs) point upwards. This creates the illusion of a void in the partline. In other words, this creates the illussion of a fine scar. But there is not such fine scar. If all the area had been shaved properly, all the shaved hairs would point downwards and there would be no void

Please pay close attention or do the following, open the picture in Paint and draw the line on the left side like you think it should be or how you see it. But keep the right covered.
sorry I don't get it.

[RichardDawkins]

So then tell me

1) Why should Dr Hitzig do this

2) What if Acell is as good as it should be and the scar is really nowhere to be seen of that. Even if you directly compare both sides those are differences like night and day.

When i look at the pictures i see this zig zag line also in the hair . Just look at the first picture in the upper left corner, you see the rest of the scar pretty clear there is some "bulky white" flesh and a spot without that much density. I mean the close up picture.

Please pay close attention or do the following, open the picture in Paint and draw the line on the left side like you think it should be or how you see it. But keep the right covered

[Spanish Dude]

Spanish Dude you have some amazing insight into this procedure. Are you a doctor or health care professional. Just Curious?

Not at all. I am not a health professional, and furthermore, hair transplants are not my main interest, but I like to use logic and find inconsistencies.
Of course, I can fail and make mistakes, but in hairloss forums cheap believers are usually the ones who end up wrong.

[Spanish Dude]

@Richard:
I have not been banned at Hairsite if thats what you are implying.
I stopped posting there because you and Iron.Man are there 365/24h turning that forum into a chaos. Once I went away, the chaos continued, so it is proven that I was not at fault.
No, I didn't harass Naughton on email nor Zohar on tweeter, those were your lies that you poured upon me on Hairsite.

[RichardDawkins]

Ok SpanishDude you say that Dr Hitzig manipulates pictures he is posting here? Is that what you saying?

Other manipulative Pictures? What are you talking about?

@mlao : Thats a good question.

[mlao]

KeepHoping, do you see anything on the left side? I cannot.
Hitzig has posted this photo suppossedly to prove that the scar on the left has been reduced to a fine line, but this fine line cannot be seen (if there is any) because Hitzig has decided to part the hair precisely at that fine line and shaved the hair below.

So Hitzig, *once more* has done a great job at posting confusing photos. This is not the first time. He did it with the Keloid Scar revision, and other manipulative photos.

Do you understand my point now KeepHoping?

Spanish Dude you have some amazing insight into this procedure. Are you a doctor or health care professional. Just Curious?

[Spanish Dude]

KeepHoping, do you see anything on the left side? I cannot.
Hitzig has posted this photo suppossedly to prove that the scar on the left has been reduced to a fine line, but this fine line cannot be seen (if there is any) because Hitzig has decided to part the hair precisely at that fine line and shaved the hair below.

So Hitzig, *once more* has done a great job at posting confusing photos. This is not the first time. He did it with the Keloid Scar revision, and other manipulative photos.

Do you understand my point now KeepHoping?

Spanish Dude,

The idea is that the scar will appear as normal skin with the implementation of acell. After acell is put in the wound it is supposed to pretty much make the scar unnoticable right? I thought that was the point. You shouldn't see much zigzag on the left because Acell was put in at the site, that's why it's hard to see a scar on the left right?

Hay q tener esperanza Spanishdude.