How are mis-angled hairs repaired?

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  • Jeff Smith
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 9

    How are mis-angled hairs repaired?

    Having started back in the 1990s with HTs, many of my transplanted hairs seem to angle up at an unnatural angle.
    Have you had any experience having this corrected, or are there methods to address this?
  • Spex
    Dr Representative
    • Nov 2008
    • 4217

    #2
    Hi Jeff,

    Theres a few ways and all depends on the nature of the grafts. You can bulk up the area with further work and completely camouflage them or FUE them out, refine them and relocate them.

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    Spex
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    • JoeTillman
      Moderator
      • Jul 2014
      • 1166

      #3
      Originally posted by Jeff Smith
      Having started back in the 1990s with HTs, many of my transplanted hairs seem to angle up at an unnatural angle.
      Have you had any experience having this corrected, or are there methods to address this?
      I had the same issue myself. There are two two ways, that Spex mentioned. The removal process is probably the best route to go in if the grafts are placed too low. If they are high enough on the hairline then they can be camouflaged. I had this approach myself and it worked quite well.
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      • Jeff Smith
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2019
        • 9

        #4
        Thanks, Spex.
        Thanks, Joe.

        It is good to know there are options, and especially good to know that this includes removal and re-use. Years ago I think I had read that this wasn't successful, and the relocated FU would not grow.
        Makes me curious what new tools or techniques made it possible to re-use the extracted FU, and also how wide spread this is, i.e. can most of the better HT docs do this now?

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        • Sean
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 259

          #5
          Sorry to hear this. Hope you get out of this mess soon. One of the many issues I have to figure out how to get out of. Ive heard scoring/extracting those misaligned grafts will probably be more beneficial. But to a certain degree. Best of luck

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          • Spex
            Dr Representative
            • Nov 2008
            • 4217

            #6
            Makes me curious what new tools or techniques made it possible to re-use the extracted FU, and also how wide spread this is, i.e. can most of the better HT docs do this now?
            FUE extraction and correct use of correct size punch - by a skilful and experienced surgeon.

            Regards
            Spex
            A world renowned hair loss and hair transplant adviser. Spex has received several hair transplant procedures along with appropriate treatments!
            Visit my website: SPEXHAIR

            Watch regular segments and interviews on The Bald Truth UK show

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            Subscribe to my YouTube Channel : SpexHair Youtube

            I am not a doctor or medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions expressed are my own unless stated otherwise. Always consult with your own family doctor prior to embarking on any form of hair loss treatment or surgery.

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            • Jeff Smith
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2019
              • 9

              #7
              Originally posted by JoeTillman
              The removal process is probably the best route to go in if the grafts are placed too low. If they are high enough on the hairline then they can be camouflaged.
              Mine are placed high enough, but there are so many that are mis-angled and there is so little donor left that I don't know how well camouflage would work in this case.
              Many are somewhat big, and so one tentative plan would be to target these. Remove and re-use at the proper angle. Does this sound like a good approach?

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              • Jeff Smith
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2019
                • 9

                #8
                Originally posted by Spex
                FUE extraction and correct use of correct size punch - by a skilful and experienced surgeon.

                https://spexhair.com
                What yield would typically result from the "re-used" FU versus a standard FUE process from standard donor area?

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                • JoeTillman
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 1166

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jeff Smith
                  Mine are placed high enough, but there are so many that are mis-angled and there is so little donor left that I don't know how well camouflage would work in this case.
                  Many are somewhat big, and so one tentative plan would be to target these. Remove and re-use at the proper angle. Does this sound like a good approach?
                  Reusing the grafts is a gamble, only in that it depends on the quality of the grafts as many times they won't be of the same quality as grafts that have come straight from the standard donor zone. If they're not of the highest quality in the recipient area they may have scar tissue around them or be compressed (usually noted by a wirey kinkiness to them) and they can have trouble surviving once they're transplanted a second time. If first time FUE has a 95% survival rate, I'd place second placement at 75%.

                  Mine were overly large as well, which some having six to twelve hair each and they were angled vertically. 2406 grafts were placed in the hairline and the top to give me coverage and that could have been good enough. I can't speak about your donor as it is now but to the original question; is your idea a good approach? It really depends on what you have to work with and what your expectations are.
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                  • Jeff Smith
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 9

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JoeTillman
                    If they're not of the highest quality in the recipient area they may have scar tissue around them or be compressed (usually noted by a wirey kinkiness to them) and they can have trouble surviving once they're transplanted a second time. If first time FUE has a 95% survival rate, I'd place second placement at 75%.

                    I can't speak about your donor as it is now but to the original question; is your idea a good approach? It really depends on what you have to work with and what your expectations are.
                    That is very interesting that the wirey nature of some FU hair is an indicator of quality. I wasn't aware of this, but it makes sense that they are under some stress, and hence not functioning normally.
                    And the surgeon could perhaps choose which to use (or not) based on this sign?

                    Unfortunately donor is severely limited. When talking to a number of doctors 10 yrs ago, one even recommended not doing anything more. Then I had a session in which 1,800 were harvested via FUT.
                    FUE taken from below the rear donor scar lines might be usable now. Perhaps this is called the "nape" hair? If I recall correctly, some surgeons leave this in tact as a safety supply, after a point of final hair loss is reached? Maybe I am there now.
                    If these "nape" hairs are available, they would go towards refining the hairline and transition to (bald) crown. Beyond that, BHT might help fill in the top some .. among the older grafts. Maybe this yields a good final result?

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