4329 Grafts- Fue - Asmed - Dr. Koray

[Templesrunner]

I think 3K+ grafts is a lot and should provide good cover.

the hairline (1 cm) was transplanted in more density than other areas.

I believe a lot of grafts did not survive. I know because the density in the hairline was the same throughout the hairline (1CM), but in the middle of the hairline, it is thinner than the sides of the hairline (see in the pics above). if all the grafts survived the density should be the same and even.

there also spots where the hair is thinner, that shouldn't happen, it should be even. it happens if some grafts did not survive in than specific area.


by the way, this how I normally go. when I comb it down the looks great and full, but i'm limited to that hair style:

[Franky]

Joe is spot on imo and I mentioned something similar in an earlier post.

[JoeTillman]

Sorry, I didn't notice this was a longer thread. I went back to look at your before images and I see the issue much more clearly now. There is a simple reason behind your concerns. You simply didn't have enough hair transplanted. When I look at the outline of the placement and then the immediate postoperative photo it is clear to me that 4329 grafts simply wasn't enough hair for your particular goals. Your temple points alone most likely constitute 1000 grafts used, which when subtracted from the overall graft count makes the # of grafts placed into the frontal zone only 3329 grafts. My gut tells met that your temple points have more than 1000 combined, but this is a safe # for reference.

When I look at the image below, and ignore the temple points, you are left with a large area remaining. Your hairline was lowered in the center, over 1cm from your forelock and the sides of your hairline into the temple was squared off. 3329 grafts is not enough for this massive area. Even keeping the hairline at the start of your forelock and building in slight recession would have made a big difference in your final density so, in the end, I think that the graft count was not sufficient for the aggressive design that was followed. You simply need more hair to get what you're after.

[Templesrunner]

hey Joe,

You are right. I'm not looking for full hair. I know my limits. I just want enough density for me to style my hair up and not down. because I understand that hairstyle is everything i comb it down and it looks great that way (that is why i don't use fiber and such).

but now it is thin even for a transplanted hair. and i'm very limited with the hairstyle.

there is no doubt that in compared to where i have started, the hair looks great. you can see pics in the beginning of the thread

but the trees in my forest have lots of space between them

you can see

[JoeTillman]

A few notes to mention. First, the images aren't very large so it is very difficult to see exactly what is going on.

Second, when you have a hair transplant, it is quite rare to pull off every hairstyle you want without any weakness getting through. Any semblance of high density is usually an illusion created through strategic and thoughtful planning and execution of the procedure based on a particular set of goals in mind. In other words, you're not getting a full head of hair, so it isn't going to act like a full head of hair. You have to accept compromises and find the styles that work best given the circumstances.

Finally, the angles that appear thinner in your photos is the same as taking a picture of a forest from the road then taking a photo of the same forest overhead from a drone or a helicopter. You'll be able to see in between each tree in the forest down to the ground it grows from. THe photos that show thinner hair is the exact same scenario.

Oh, and you should always include images from before your procedure for a fair comparison. It is best to use the photos the clinic gave you when you were there.

[BuzzBaldrin]

I'm really disappointed so far. Very low density. when i comb my hair up ( like the pics) everyone can see the scalp.

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luckily I comb my hair down and that way it doesn't look sparse and thin.

If you look at where you’ve come from the temple areas were completely bald. All the hair you have there is transplanted. Following your progression, to me, your hair looks great. I see what you mean about it being a little sparse, although I recall seeing multiple threads where people reached as far as 9/10 months thinking that was as good as it gets, yet it ends up continuing to thicken up and give better coverage.

If it still bothers you, why not try using some hair fibres until you’ve reached 12-18 months and have a better idea of your final result?

As I mentioned before my hair appears to be heading in a similar direction to yours pre-op. If I was in your shoes at your age, I think I’d be relatively satisfied with your result so far.

[Templesrunner]

Hey everyone, 8.5 months

I'm really disappointed so far. Very low density. when i comb my hair up ( like the pics) everyone can see the scalp.

I have contacted the clinic about it. they are very nice, and only saying things will improve until 18 months. I can't see any difference between month 6 and now.

luckily I comb my hair down and that way it doesn't look sparse and thin.

I still hope things will improve, but I know that from 8.5-12 the odds of that are low.

Unfortunately the clinic will regard my request only after 18 months.

[Templesrunner]

time will tell...

some pics look good other less because I tried to take different pics from different angles and lighting - that's why the look different.

[Franky]

Doesn't look too bad in some pictures, in others sparse. Dunno man, 4300 grafts sounds a lot on paper but when you aggressively rebuild temple points and also end up lowering a hairline as well as filling in pretty bare temple areas, that 4300 gets eaten into pretty quickly. Think with temple points, focus should be on using artistry to give a good look rather than throwing too many grafts rebuilding with large numbers. Would probably give it a few more months, think 80% growth at month 7 in most cases is a tad optimistic, maybe see how you are at the 9-10 month stage.

[Templesrunner]

hello,

7 months update

Sorry for not posting at 6 months, I have been busy...

Anyway, I'm not happy with the result. the density is poor. especially in the middle of the hairline. when I comb my hair up the hair is a total see-through. I have done 4.3K grafts in a relatively small area, so I would expect a better result.

at 7 months I should see at least 80% growth. if this is 80% - I'm not happy.

now for the pics, I tried to take different pics in different lighting (warm light, daylight, florecent, direct harsh light etc...):

[Templesrunner]

5 months update:

I will post a comb up pics from now on because you can see the density better that way. comb down looks great, that's how I go out every day.

Density is not good generally, and I still can't style my hair in a comb up, it looks bad. especially when my native hair is dense so I can compare the native hair vs the transplanted hair.

In the middle of the hairline, the density is lower in comparison to sides of the hairline.

I really hope things will improve greatly because I am not happy with the result so far (I know I have 5 more months of growth but still, I'm a bit worried, since there was not a big difference from month 4 to 5)

[Templesrunner]

I think that from my 4 months pics you guys got the wrong impression. when the hair is down it's looks pretty good butwhen it is combed up it looks sick & very low density. here is a pic with a fluorescent light and a flash so you can see clearly the low density:

[BuzzBaldrin]

just saw your pics, yeah, your hair loss is less severe than mine was. I hope eventually I'll get a good result and density. I see a lot of bad HT out there so do your research before. anyway, you are young and I think it's better to wait a few years till your hair loss stable

I actually buzzed mine down to a grade 3 on top and 1 on the sides, it looks better than I expected but will still take some getting used to. Fingers crossed I’ll stabilise and can look at my options in a few years.

Please keep posting updates, I’ve been following this thread since the beginning!

[Templesrunner]

This looks amazing. Thanks for sharing your experience. I think I’m heading for a similar pattern of hair loss to you, I’m not quite as severe as yours was prior to surgery but I’m ~10 years younger. This gives me hope of what I might be able to achieve if my hair loss stabilizes.

just saw your pics, yeah, your hair loss is less severe than mine was. I hope eventually I'll get a good result and density. I see a lot of bad HT out there so do your research before. anyway, you are young and I think it's better to wait a few years till your hair loss stable

[BuzzBaldrin]

This looks amazing. Thanks for sharing your experience. I think I’m heading for a similar pattern of hair loss to you, I’m not quite as severe as yours was prior to surgery but I’m ~10 years younger. This gives me hope of what I might be able to achieve if my hair loss stabilises.