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  • unbalding
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 140

    How many grafts do I need?

    I've been on and off medication for the last few years, and I've maintaned, but haven't stayed on long enough to get regrowth. Right now I've been on treatments for three months, and I'm making slow progress, but I know I'm not going to get back my hairline with treatments alone. I started losing my hair around 2011, and I have to go back to 2012 to find the last time I had more hair than I do now. I have some vellus hairs coming in near my original hair line on the left side, but I doubt they will amount to much. I want to give it a few more months on treatments to see what I can grow back. Right now I'd like to know about how many grafts I will need for my hairline, assuming I grow nothing else back. I've attached three pictures with a line drawn in the general area of where my hairline should be. The line is six inches long. I hope one of the surgeons here will be kind enough to give me an estimate.



  • BaldingEagle
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 373

    #2
    Originally posted by unbalding
    I've been on and off medication for the last few years, and I've maintaned, but haven't stayed on long enough to get regrowth. Right now I've been on treatments for three months, and I'm making slow progress, but I know I'm not going to get back my hairline with treatments alone. I started losing my hair around 2011, and I have to go back to 2012 to find the last time I had more hair than I do now. I have some vellus hairs coming in near my original hair line on the left side, but I doubt they will amount to much. I want to give it a few more months on treatments to see what I can grow back. Right now I'd like to know about how many grafts I will need for my hairline, assuming I grow nothing else back. I've attached three pictures with a line drawn in the general area of where my hairline should be. The line is six inches long. I hope one of the surgeons here will be kind enough to give me an estimate.



    Give treatment a year, you got it early and will likely thicken up. Otherwise your loss is minor, I'd say 1000 grafts.

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    • BaldingEagle
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 373

      #3
      Originally posted by BaldingEagle
      Give treatment a year, you got it early and will likely thicken up. Otherwise your loss is minor, I'd say 1000 grafts.
      Nobody is going to lower your hairline that far, every doctor will say no way.

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      • unbalding
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 140

        #4
        Originally posted by BaldingEagle
        Give treatment a year, you got it early and will likely thicken up. Otherwise your loss is minor, I'd say 1000 grafts.
        If I keep making progress I will. When regrowth plateaus I really want to be NWO again.

        Originally posted by BaldingEagle
        Nobody is going to lower your hairline that far, every doctor will say no way.
        Why is that? I thought the whole point of a HT was to restore your original hairline.

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        • Hairbrain
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2016
          • 127

          #5
          Originally posted by unbalding
          If I keep making progress I will. When regrowth plateaus I really want to be NWO again.



          Why is that? I thought the whole point of a HT was to restore your original hairline.
          No hair transplant will restore the density of your original hairline. If you find a doctor out there who would drop you hairline that far you should run! The first and most important requirement of being a transplant canidate is to have reasonable expectations. If you dont, then you should learn to live with what you have and/or shave it. To put your hairline where you have drawn it would be highly risky. You still have some decent native hair. Any reputable HT surgeon would more than likely would outline your current hairline and slightly drop the temples, from there it would be about thickening up your thinning areas. I'm not a doctor but I've learned a few things the hard way. In my opinion reasonable expectations and a conservative approach is the best way forward.

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          • unbalding
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 140

            #6
            Originally posted by Hairbrain
            No hair transplant will restore the density of your original hairline. If you find a doctor out there who would drop you hairline that far you should run! The first and most important requirement of being a transplant canidate is to have reasonable expectations. If you dont, then you should learn to live with what you have and/or shave it. To put your hairline where you have drawn it would be highly risky. You still have some decent native hair. Any reputable HT surgeon would more than likely would outline your current hairline and slightly drop the temples, from there it would be about thickening up your thinning areas. I'm not a doctor but I've learned a few things the hard way. In my opinion reasonable expectations and a conservative approach is the best way forward.
            I should be able to fill in my existing hairline with treatments. You're telling me once I do, no one will drop my hairline another inch? I'm not going to look good no matter what unless I get my hairline down to where my head begins to curve back sharply. Even when my current hair line thickens up, it's going to look pretty stupid when my forehead goes straight up, and then there's a one inch bald spot that's curved back before my hair begins.

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            • BaldingEagle
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2015
              • 373

              #7
              Originally posted by unbalding
              I should be able to fill in my existing hairline with treatments. You're telling me once I do, no one will drop my hairline another inch? I'm not going to look good no matter what unless I get my hairline down to where my head begins to curve back sharply. Even when my current hair line thickens up, it's going to look pretty stupid when my forehead goes straight up, and then there's a one inch bald spot that's curved back before my hair begins.
              That's really just tough luck. No doctor will ever lower your hairline an inch.

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              • unbalding
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 140

                #8
                Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                That's really just tough luck. No doctor will ever lower your hairline an inch.
                I still don't understand why that is? Why will the lower a norwood 4 three inches, but not a norwood 2 one inch? That inch makes a big difference. It takes me from a 10 to about a 7 or 8.

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                • BaldingEagle
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 373

                  #9
                  Originally posted by unbalding
                  I still don't understand why that is? Why will the lower a norwood 4 three inches, but not a norwood 2 one inch? That inch makes a big difference. It takes me from a 10 to about a 7 or 8.
                  Because you're going to lose more hair later, even with Propecia and rogaine. There is no cure for hairloss. So once your hairline is lowered an inch you will lose the hair behind it later and look ridiculous. You'll need all the grafts you have just to keep that hair for more than 25 years.

                  Also nobody with skin that oily is close to a 10 lol. A 10 is a super model.

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                  • unbalding
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 140

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                    Because you're going to lose more hair later, even with Propecia and rogaine. There is no cure for hairloss. So once your hairline is lowered an inch you will lose the hair behind it later and look ridiculous. You'll need all the grafts you have just to keep that hair for more than 25 years.

                    Also nobody with skin that oily is close to a 10 lol. A 10 is a super model.
                    That makes sense. Once replicel comes out that should all change though, right? Assuming it works the way they say it will.

                    That's from minox. I've never had acne, even when I went through puberty. Before my hair fell out I looked just like Johnny Depp. I never had any problem getting any girl I wanted, regardless of their relationship status.

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                    • BaldingEagle
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 373

                      #11
                      Originally posted by unbalding
                      That makes sense. Once replicel comes out that should all change though, right? Assuming it works the way they say it will.

                      That's from minox. I've never had acne, even when I went through puberty. Before my hair fell out I looked just like Johnny Depp. I never had any problem getting any girl I wanted, regardless of their relationship status.
                      It will hopefully change, luckily for me I'm good looking also, So my minor loss isn't a deal breaker, even less so now that I'm married.

                      There are some promising treatments in the pipeline but if you get a HT make sure you work out a life long plan. You make think you won't care what you look like later in life but you absolutely will. Don't butcher yourself, be cautious and patient.

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                      • unbalding
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 140

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                        It will hopefully change, luckily for me I'm good looking also, So my minor loss isn't a deal breaker, even less so now that I'm married.

                        There are some promising treatments in the pipeline but if you get a HT make sure you work out a life long plan. You make think you won't care what you look like later in life but you absolutely will. Don't butcher yourself, be cautious and patient.
                        Yeah, I know what you mean. I think I'll stay away from HTs for now. If I can get my current hairline to fill in I can brush it forward, ala Tom Brady, and be good until something better comes along.

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                        • BaldingEagle
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 373

                          #13
                          Originally posted by unbalding
                          Yeah, I know what you mean. I think I'll stay away from HTs for now. If I can get my current hairline to fill in I can brush it forward, ala Tom Brady, and be good until something better comes along.
                          That's a good plan, give treatment 2 years then reaccess.

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                          • Hairbrain
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 127

                            #14
                            It's a good plan. Given your situation stay away from the HTs for now. See what Finasteride will do for you and reaccess at a later date. Good luck....

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                            • unbalding
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 140

                              #15
                              Thanks guys, I will do that.

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