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  • blohan
    Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 58

    #16
    Originally posted by DAVE52
    Easier to manage , less stressful
    Just buzz it
    You don't have to think about putting gel in your hair, combing it and styling it a certain way.
    As others have said a HT has it's limitations and you have to have realistic expectations .
    I thought 1 would be it . I learned you need to go back for more as hair loss is progressive and I had no desire for any more HT's
    You seem to have a lot of hair still and would not look balding with longer hair, why buzz it? I don't understand it.

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    • arfy
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 114

      #17
      Originally posted by blohan
      my sides above my ears have always been patchy and problematic since I was in high school and they feel the same to me, the back of my head feels the same to me too, and I usually buzz it down, and when it's buzzed the back of my head doesn't feel like it's lot any density at all. Not that it has any great density to begin with, it just hasn't changed to me.
      That lack of density is a problem. Your donor area is very thin already. You don't have much donor hair available, and you have a very large area you want to fix. Not everybody is a good candidate for a hair transplant. A person's individual characteristics will play an important role in how successful your results will be. Having a large balding area, and a thin looking donor area are two big strikes against you. The biggest problem with hair transplants is the issue of supply versus demand. The average donor supply is something like 6,000 grafts, up to about 10,000 in some ideal patients. But an entire bald scalp could require 12,000 to 15,000 grafts, just to give the "illusion of coverage" (not a "full head of hair" but just enough hair to not look obviously balding).

      You're not a great candidate for surgery, so your results won't be impressive. You'll need to settle for a large balding area in the crown (and maybe mid scalp too). You'd have enough donor hair to do the frontal 1/3, the hairline and a little more.

      You can go meet with doctors to get more information but beware, there are predatory clinics who only care about getting your money. They don't care what happens after that.

      Your friend (in your photos) shaves his head, why not try doing what he does?

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      • blohan
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 58

        #18
        This are pictures taken today after a hair cut:

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        Can someone show me with pictures what possible results I could have? I already looked myself and some looked great and some looked horrific.

        Is there a chance to look acceptable with just one surgery? How do you cope with the stigma of having had surgery?

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        • brocktherock
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 203

          #19
          Don't do it bro, I know what youre going through but a HT wont make you happy at this stage in your loss. Just shave it and hit the gym. I know how harsh that sounds but anyone who tells you that you can get a decent result at this stage is sugar coating the truth or trying to get your money. Don't make that mistake my friend

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          • HTsoon
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 153

            #20
            Originally posted by blohan
            I'd like to see your thread, I live in Panama and I just don't know how good the doctors are, I only know of two cases, this guy I know had a hair transplant and now has like zero hair. Zero. I don't know his doctor and honestly I don't know how to ask. I know another case of a tv presenter here, he had one done, this is how he looks like: https://www.instagram.com/p/BB5NYBfSGTJ/ however he is always wearing caps, if you go through his instagram, you'll see.

            This is his procedure video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPVT812mfUo

            I have no idea if he's a good doctor and I wouldn't even begin to know what to look for, there isn't any board certification here or anything like that.
            I tried to PM you but its not working, I had a similar hairloss pattern, I've attached my pre-op pics and most recent pics, now mind you, YOU HAVE TO HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS, I still have to style my hair in a way that makes it look like its thicker, it still looks thinner when soaking wet or when im in the sun, is this something you're willing to live with? if it is than you might be a good candidate, if its not then I suggest either SMP or a hair system. I just saw your recent pic, there is small bald spot where your donor area should be, is that Alopecia Areata? If so you may not be a candidate, if its just a scar then its no big deal.
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            • blohan
              Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 58

              #21
              Originally posted by HTsoon
              I tried to PM you but its not working, I had a similar hairloss pattern, I've attached my pre-op pics and most recent pics, now mind you, YOU HAVE TO HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS, I still have to style my hair in a way that makes it look like its thicker, it still looks thinner when soaking wet or when im in the sun, is this something you're willing to live with? if it is than you might be a good candidate, if its not then I suggest either SMP or a hair system. I just saw your recent pic, there is small bald spot where your donor area should be, is that Alopecia Areata? If so you may not be a candidate, if its just a scar then its no big deal.
              I don't know what that is actually lol, it's like a cyst that I've had since forever, it's a bump. How many surgeries did you get?? Do people notice you had a hair transplant?? Does it look like your hair before? What about the hairline??

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              • HTsoon
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 153

                #22
                Originally posted by blohan
                I don't know what that is actually lol, it's like a cyst that I've had since forever, it's a bump. How many surgeries did you get?? Do people notice you had a hair transplant?? Does it look like your hair before? What about the hairline??
                I've had two surgeries, no one has noticed it's a transplant, no it doesn't look like my hair before I went bald, I had much thicker hair, you will never look like you did before especially with the level of loss you have now, my hair is an illusion, I'm happy with the hairline my expectations have been exceeded.

                Before you do anything you should go to a doctor and have your donor area checked, that cyst is alarming, I don't know if you're prone to keloids if you are having FUE would be a terrible idea.

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                • blohan
                  Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 58

                  #23
                  Originally posted by HTsoon
                  I've had two surgeries, no one has noticed it's a transplant, no it doesn't look like my hair before I went bald, I had much thicker hair, you will never look like you did before especially with the level of loss you have now, my hair is an illusion, I'm happy with the hairline my expectations have been exceeded.
                  What was it like with just one surgery? I really wouldn't want to get more than one.

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                  • bmoreno515
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 220

                    #24
                    heyy HTSoon how do you style your hair like that? Like how do you come it back or to the side and get your hair to stand like that? Always been a fan of that hair style

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                    • WHTC Clinic
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                      • Oct 2013
                      • 425

                      #25
                      You won't have enough scalp donor to treat the back. Hair quality and characteristics won't give you back what you once had. If you have attempted medical therapy and can be patient with the results of regrowth, then you can benefit. The cost may not be worth the effort, but if you want to help the crown with medication, and get surgery to restore the appearance of coverage in front, you have a chance of being more satisfied.
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                      • HTsoon
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 153

                        #26
                        Originally posted by blohan
                        What was it like with just one surgery? I really wouldn't want to get more than one.
                        Not very good compared to now, with the level of loss you have you're going to need at least 3 or 4 surgeries to really get appropriate density, sounds like maybe your expectations and level of loss don't match, if you had minor balding then yea one surgery is enough, but you're norwood 6 you'll need at the very minimum 2 surgeries and your crown will still be bald. I will go in for my 3rd surgery later this year to touch up the midscalp and possibly the crown and I don't think ill be done for life. Before embarking on this journey, its a life long commitment remember that. You might be better off just getting a hair system or SMP.

                        Originally posted by bmoreno515
                        heyy HTSoon how do you style your hair like that? Like how do you come it back or to the side and get your hair to stand like that? Always been a fan of that hair style
                        I blow dry my hair while combing the front up and the back to the side, then when its dry, I apply Paul Mitchell Reformer wax and hold it all together with Redken Working Wax. Thanks man, considering you have a man bun something I could never ever get that means alot.

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                        • blohan
                          Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 58

                          #27
                          Originally posted by WHTC Clinic
                          You won't have enough scalp donor to treat the back. Hair quality and characteristics won't give you back what you once had. If you have attempted medical therapy and can be patient with the results of regrowth, then you can benefit. The cost may not be worth the effort, but if you want to help the crown with medication, and get surgery to restore the appearance of coverage in front, you have a chance of being more satisfied.
                          I don't really care about the crown, just the front, will one surgery be enough?

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                          • blohan
                            Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 58

                            #28
                            Originally posted by HTsoon
                            Not very good compared to now, with the level of loss you have you're going to need at least 3 or 4 surgeries to really get appropriate density, sounds like maybe your expectations and level of loss don't match, if you had minor balding then yea one surgery is enough, but you're norwood 6 you'll need at the very minimum 2 surgeries and your crown will still be bald. I will go in for my 3rd surgery later this year to touch up the midscalp and possibly the crown and I don't think ill be done for life. Before embarking on this journey, its a life long commitment remember that. You might be better off just getting a hair system or SMP.



                            I blow dry my hair while combing the front up and the back to the side, then when its dry, I apply Paul Mitchell Reformer wax and hold it all together with Redken Working Wax. Thanks man, considering you have a man bun something I could never ever get that means alot.
                            I don't understand, how is there enough hair in the back for 3 or 4 surgeries?? How much would a surgery cost?

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                            • blohan
                              Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 58

                              #29
                              Originally posted by HTsoon
                              Not very good compared to now, with the level of loss you have you're going to need at least 3 or 4 surgeries to really get appropriate density, sounds like maybe your expectations and level of loss don't match, if you had minor balding then yea one surgery is enough, but you're norwood 6 you'll need at the very minimum 2 surgeries and your crown will still be bald. I will go in for my 3rd surgery later this year to touch up the midscalp and possibly the crown and I don't think ill be done for life. Before embarking on this journey, its a life long commitment remember that. You might be better off just getting a hair system or SMP.



                              I blow dry my hair while combing the front up and the back to the side, then when its dry, I apply Paul Mitchell Reformer wax and hold it all together with Redken Working Wax. Thanks man, considering you have a man bun something I could never ever get that means alot.
                              What about this case?? How many transplants did he have? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ayn...34A9A99D96A284

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                              • HTsoon
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 153

                                #30
                                Originally posted by blohan
                                What about this case?? How many transplants did he have? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ayn...34A9A99D96A284
                                That is a rare case and I think he had a few surgeries, just like joe Tillman the hair transplant mentor, my advice is if you're not willing to have at least a few surgeries I doubt you'll be happy with the results, unless you want to do strip, the guy you posted did strip surgery, you can get a lot of grafts but you'll have a strip scar for life, if one day you ever want to buzz your head because your baldness becomes too much, then you'll have that strip scar that will be visible. So it's up to you, you can try and get 4,000-5,000 grafts at once and try to cover as much as possible but you'll have a linear scar, or get FUE get more surgeries but won't have the linear scar.

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