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  • hellojames99
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 3

    the hospital group england.

    Hi everyone i hope that if your considering doing surgery at the hospital then you read this and run a mile or 2.
    i had surgery more than 7 months ago and ive been stupid and naive.
    firstly please dont get sucked in by their flash salesman with designer glasses and clothes and shoes,hes all bla bla bla and will offer you a good deal but will ruin your life after the surgery with no aftercare.
    says he does tricho closure but i can assure you that its not a good one and you will have scarring like me
    secondly he cant do a decent dencent for a one pass result,he likes to do 20 graphs per square cm or less so that youll return
    thirdly they will give you ridging/cobblestoning and youll look awfull as i do and have to hide your head until you can do antoher surgery to hide his mess.
    he might offer you another procedure cheaply but please run a mile and if you see him on the street please kick him in the nuts for doing this mess to me and pull out his hair as hes had a transplantdone recently in an expesive clinic overseas with my hard earned money
    youll get no aftercare just frustration and they dont care if you are suicidal or not so long as they get your money into their pockets so the boss can buy another lambourghini car,what a mess my life is now so im warning others dont be stupid like i wasd and i never researched enough.
  • J_B_Davis
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 393

    #2
    Hello James,

    I’m sorry you found this forum after you had your hair transplant, but don't beat yourself up over it, it’s not your fault, and it seems very common. The very first post I made on this site was to comment on a post made by Red20 who was considering having a hair transplant in India of all places. I could not believe someone would travel from the US to India to have plastic surgery just to save a few bucks! Luckily he listened to the forum posters and decided to do the surgery with an IAHRS doctor, Dr. Hasson.

    There are a lot of people who have one bad surgery and then are easily repaired by a reputable hair transplant surgeon so don’t worry about it, you’ll be OK!

    Look for a hair transplant surgeon who does a lot of repair work and it might be good to meet with the doctor before having your second surgery. This is a great site because the only forum that I am aware of where you can speak to doctors and get answers from them so you should upload your pictures so they can see the current state of your hair.

    I think you’ll be fine and perhaps your story will help other guys learn to do their research.
    Good luck!

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    • SpencerKobren
      Administrator
      • Oct 2008
      • 398

      #3
      Sorry To Hear About Your Hair Transplant Experience| Audio Response

      Originally posted by hellojames99
      Hi everyone i hope that if your considering doing surgery at the hospital then you read this and run a mile or 2.
      i had surgery more than 7 months ago and ive been stupid and naive.
      firstly please dont get sucked in by their flash salesman with designer glasses and clothes and shoes,hes all bla bla bla and will offer you a good deal but will ruin your life after the surgery with no aftercare.
      says he does tricho closure but i can assure you that its not a good one and you will have scarring like me
      secondly he cant do a decent dencent for a one pass result,he likes to do 20 graphs per square cm or less so that youll return
      thirdly they will give you ridging/cobblestoning and youll look awfull as i do and have to hide your head until you can do antoher surgery to hide his mess.
      he might offer you another procedure cheaply but please run a mile and if you see him on the street please kick him in the nuts for doing this mess to me and pull out his hair as hes had a transplantdone recently in an expesive clinic overseas with my hard earned money
      youll get no aftercare just frustration and they dont care if you are suicidal or not so long as they get your money into their pockets so the boss can buy another lambourghini car,what a mess my life is now so im warning others dont be stupid like i wasd and i never researched enough.
      Spencer Kobren
      Founder, American Hair Loss Association
      Host, The Bald Truth Radio Show

      I am not a physician. My opinions and knowledge concerning hair loss and its treatment are based on extensive research and reporting on the subject as a consumer advocate and hair loss educator. My views and comments on the subject should not be taken as medical advice. Always seek the advice of a medical professional when considering medical and surgical treatment.

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      • hellojames99
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 3

        #4
        The hospital group nightmare surgery

        hI AGAIN I JUST HOPE THAT THERE IS MORE GUYS OUT THERE WHO WILL STAND UP AFTER READING MY POSTS AND GET SOME JUSTICE FROM THESE BUTCHERS IF THEYVE EXPERIENCES SAME FROM THIS HOSPITAL
        I WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW WHAT COWBOYS THESE PEOPLE ARE AND HOW THEYRE GETTING AWAY WITH RUINING VUNERABLE BALDING MENS LIFES.
        I HOPE THAT THE IDIOT SALESMAN WHO SOLD ME THIS SURGERY AND THE SURGEON WHO DID MY BOTCH SURGERY ARE READING THIS ALSO BECAUSE EVENTUALLY BAD THINGS YOUVE DONE IN LIFE COME BACK TO BITE YOU IN THE ASS WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT.
        ANYONE IS WELCOME TO SEND ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING GOING THERE OR HAVE BEEN THERE.
        PLEASE AVOID THIS PLACE AND THAT SURGEON UNLESS YOU WANT TO RUIN YOUR SCALP AND EMOTIONS PLEASE

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        • Zao
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 152

          #5
          I think you would be more effective at making your point if you post some pictures. I can see how outraged you are and you every every right to be and you are now lucky to have found the best hair transplant forum to get information and help so use it! Spencer Kobren gave you his personal advise and you just gloss over that. You should try to calm down and listen to the experts who are here to help you. You can still warn people about this surgeon, but you need to heal.
          Just my 2 cents
          Chris

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          • Dr. Glenn Charles
            IAHRS Recommended Hair Transplant Surgeon
            • Nov 2008
            • 2419

            #6
            I know it is hard to find anything positive with your situation. There are many others that have had multiple bad surgeries and have no donor hair left for correcting the problem. If you have had only one procedure there is a good chance that you have plenty of good donor hair remaining. You could have some corrective work which may put you in a much better position. I would recommend waiting another 4-5 months to make sure you are making your decision based on a final result versus something preliminary. At that time see and or talk to several doctors before deciding on who will perform your next procedure. Hang in there!
            Dr. Glenn Charles
            Member, International Alliance of Hair Restoration Surgeons
            View my IAHRS Profile

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            • Spex
              Dr Representative
              • Nov 2008
              • 4217

              #7
              Hi James, As i mentioned on another forum, very sorry to hear about your situ - if i can help please feel free to contact me as i help many guys obtain accurate info on their situ's and i am more than happy to help by meeting up and taking pics for your situ for you to send off to a number of well recommended clinics to get an all round feel for your requirements.
              Good point made by Doc Charles defo wait it out before doing anything - do not trush in again and potentially regret it - i would wait a minimum of 12+ months before sceduling any other surgery to help repair the previous one so that the repair is done accurately.

              All the very best
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              • PayDay
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 544

                #8
                there are so many butchers out there! Do you have any pictures you can share?

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                • bigmac
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 252

                  #9
                  How many grafts did you get from this clinic.Hopefully it will grow out with reasonable success and not look too bad.At 12 months you can then decide on your next course of action.
                  Some pictures would be nice to see what it all looks like.
                  Take care.
                  bm.

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                  • gillenator
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1415

                    #10
                    hellojames,

                    If you are concerned about being recognized, have your face covered in the pics.
                    "Gillenator"
                    Independent Patient Advocate
                    more.hair@verizon.net

                    NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                    • simoncowell80@yahoo.com
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1

                      #11
                      hospital group dolan park bromsgrove

                      hI I SAW A FEW NEGATIVE POSTS HERE and there ABOUT THE HOSPITAL GROUP.
                      That poor fellow james seems quiet upset and others on different forums,noticed there was another guy like me who got taken in and had 2 attempts at it and i can share his and their feeling because i had hair transplant surgery there in the past also and wasnt happy with my result as the density was low and scar wasnt too neat and stupidly i got taken in again by their low price for a second one and im still very unhappy as density still isnt enough and my scar took over 6 months to stop scabbing as closure wasnt done properly and implants are not growing in correct direction so its hard to style my hair.
                      im now getting another surgery done not in a u.k. clinic ,thankfully i have a small amount of donor hair remaining to tidy it up but NO I WOULDNT RECOMMEND THE HOSPITAL GROUP NOR ANY OF THEIR 3 SURGEONS,they work on turnover as a big group,not on care and attention.

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                      • NotBadhairUK
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24

                        #12
                        Originally posted by simoncowell80@yahoo.com

                        im now getting another surgery done not in a u.k. clinic ,thankfully i have a small amount of donor hair remaining to tidy it up but NO I WOULDNT RECOMMEND THE HOSPITAL GROUP NOR ANY OF THEIR 3 SURGEONS,they work on turnover as a big group,not on care and attention.

                        Can I quickly ask... who is the UK Clinic you refer to here that you are going to next? This rings ALARM BELLS!!! I wouldn't go to any UK clinic even if you paid me £100,000. In my opinion the best HT Dr's are based OUTSIDE of the UK!


                        I couldn't agree more that it is really frustrating to know they (The Hospital Group) continue to destroy peoples lives who already have very low self esteem and already desperate for some help with an issue that is causing them distress and hand over £1000's of there saved hard earned money to help them!! then get turned over by that very UK HT clinic! YET again. so now they are EVEN more depressed and at an all time low and without any money left in the bank. RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH.. and the famous last words... 'IF ONLY'..

                        The trouble is, we TRUST someone we are speaking too as soon as you see they have the letters 'Dr' before their name! and they have a new suit on. This immediately gives you a false impression that they are highly skilled/trained and experienced in their field. IT IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE CAN MAKE!!

                        I have also had a UK HT that ruined my life for over a decade.. it was only thanks to Dr Feller to repair my humiliating (plugs) UK HT by Nobel Hair Clinic that I have been able to re-start my life again many years later.

                        I hope once you have reached the 1 years mark you will be able to see how things have resolved and make a much better choice of HT Clinic to help you get back a nicer fuller hairline.. sorry to hear how you got taken in by this company and I wish you the best and things will be ok again it just takes time.

                        All the best...and thanks for posting this WARNING to others.

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                        • cruise
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Hi James i hate reading your story as its the same butcher Dr Goldstone of the Hospital Group who performed my surgery in 2006 which left me with a nice strip scar and under 500 bad plugs,infact its probably the same salesman by your description his name was Tarquin a smooth taking aXse ..anyway i have only ever posted on one forum about my repair work by the lovely Dr Rahal which i had in november 07,but after reading your thread i think if anyone who reads just a couple of our posts it might just save them from these butchers.If anyone reads this from the uk please stay away from the same old uk clinics like this one,i know they have started showing up on these kind of forums showing before pics which promise good density and fantastic strip scar results but do u ever see follow ups 2 these procedures? ans is no u don't ..Like most people the distance factor is the main reason we use these type of clinics in the UK u pay the same rate for more graphs in canada etc and get more for ur money overall.IT was'nt easy going alone to canada there was no direct flights,but once i arrived in canada it was a walk in the park the people are fantastic and so friendly u forget all your worries like what will people think,i just put on my baseball cap and went out after and made the most of it eating and shopping in the malls and the care i recieved off Dr Rahal and team ie Adrian and the techs was fantastic with fantastic follow up care which included Dr Rahal ringing me the same night after surgery and even dropping me at my hotel which i did'nt get from the Hospital Group ! and thats because end of the day they don't care just another pay check to them with no guilt involved .I have rambled on alot sorry heres the only pic im posting of a before and after and james stay positive as much as u can i had to save money again and it destroyed my confidence twice over and my repear did'nt happen over night i had 2 save over again and that year was the lowest of my life ...Heres the only pic im posting of before my repair and after sorry guy's but i won't be posting anymore as ive only done this to shock anyone considering these types of clinics..Can i add i don't work for Dr Rahal or any clinic there are many talented surgeons who change peoples lives for the better like Hasson And Wong,Dr feller among others they were 2 other clinics i looked at aswell .
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                          • gillenator
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1415

                            #14
                            I just hope James has not retreated into seclusion from society. That's not a permanent resolution although easy for us to say and yet can be so devastating to the patient.

                            James,

                            All we can say is to read up on as many good repair surgeons in North America and then e-mail them digital quaility pics taken in ample lighting at every angle. I know you know not to go back to the same place on "any terms".

                            If you like, you can e-mail me your pics in total confidentiality if you want my opinion on how to approach things from here. I have worked in the industry for 30 years and seen thousands of tough cases. I can also refer you to several good repair docs that I respect and trust. I don't charge patients anything for my help and I am not on anyone's payroll either.

                            I have been through it myself four times and stay objective no matter who the patient is or what the case involves. I just hope you can get on with life again and move forward friend.
                            "Gillenator"
                            Independent Patient Advocate
                            more.hair@verizon.net

                            NOTE: I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice nor are they the opinions of the following endorsing physicians: Dr. Bob True & Dr. Bob Dorin

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                            • Jenny
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1

                              #15
                              The Hospital Group and bad aftercare

                              Hi guys I know this is the wrong site for a girl with long heir and small boobs to be on but thought I would post a message in regards to the Hospital Group and its piss poor practices of letting people down who have paid out good money, only to find out you were not getting what you were led to believe in the glossy ads and you were paying for when things go wrong.
                              I was on a site called


                              On there if you post a negative comment about the Hospital Group the company complains and gets it took down. You then get a number of posters who try to harass you and make out your a fake posters for saying such nasty things about them then fill all the pages with how great the hospital Is bla bla bla.
                              A face book page is being set up for all people who have been effected by the Hospital Group and its treatment towards people who needed to rely on its poor aftercare
                              Call The Hospital Group ruined my nose. I think its some guy who had a nose job and suffered the same

                              Good luck and hope to hear from you on this important topic

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