Procedure Booked w/ Dr. Rahal (2nd transplant)

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  • win200
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 420

    #16
    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    Why are using dut if fin is working?
    Well, couple reasons. First, there's still some shedding. I get roughly 8-15 hairs on my hands when I shower, and about the same amount when I do my minoxidil application at night. This could all be just normal shedding--I have no idea. Most of the hairs don't seem to be miniaturized. Also, as I mentioned earlier on here, I can't tell if my hairline has continued to recede because my hairline is now transplanted, which hides any recession. It doesn't look like there's been any change, but I'm a slow receder, so I could be losing ground just at a gradual rate.

    I also don't think there's much--if any--downside to going onto dut. I tolerated fin extremely well, so I think my side effect potential is pretty minimal. And as we all know, it's exponentially easier to keep hair on your head in the first place rather than try to get it back after it's been lost. I don't want to get five years down the line and wonder if I'd be in a better position if I'd opted for the more potent drug from the outset. Maybe my hair will look like shit in eight, ten years, but at least I'll know that I did everything I could.

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    • win200
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 420

      #17
      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
      Thinking of getting my hairline fixed.
      Is there a link to your pics somewhere on here?

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      • mkamph
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 168

        #18
        I gotta say that Dr. Niedbalski did some excellent work on the original transplant. I know pics don't always tell the whole story, but it looks undetectable.

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        • win200
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 420

          #19
          Originally posted by mkamph
          I gotta say that Dr. Niedbalski did some excellent work on the original transplant. I know pics don't always tell the whole story, but it looks undetectable.
          Thanks! No, I'd say the pics do it justice here. My desire for a second transplant is in no way a reflection on Dr. Niedbalski's work, which was excellent. No one--not even my parents or best friends--realized I had a transplant. (Both my parents did ask if I'd dyed my hair, as the transplanted hair grew in much darker than the native hair behind it--like black as compared to medium brown.)

          This is actually the only factor that's caused me a little pause about getting a second transplant--whether it's stupid to mess with a great result. There's always the risk that Dr. Rahal could transplant the hairline lower and and more to my liking in that respect, but I get a less natural result or something else goes wrong in the process, and I end up worse off when all is said and done. I figured that the odds of that happening in Dr. Rahal's hands are pretty slim. But willing to hear thoughts on that front.

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          • Dan26
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 1270

            #20
            My honest opinion man....

            Wait a full year and if you still feel/want to have it done then go for it.

            You obviously dont 'need' it, but at the same time going for it just because you want it is no big deal as your loss is stabilized.

            Good luck bro.

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            • topcat
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 849

              #21
              What you plan on doing is extremely foolish. If you do not lose another head on your head it might workout for you otherwise you will absolutely be screwed in a few years. The hair behind the hairline should be thicker then the hair in front of it as that is the natural balding process and what looks normal. If you do not have the donor to continue this pattern it will look completely abnormal and it’s not a matter of if only a matter of when.

              You are using a high percentage of donor on a small percentage of hair loss area, in the end the math usually does not add up. Hope you know what you are doing. You will not be the first nor the last who has been given poor advice, so you will not be alone.

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              • win200
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 420

                #22
                Originally posted by topcat
                What you plan on doing is extremely foolish. If you do not lose another head on your head it might workout for you otherwise you will absolutely be screwed in a few years. The hair behind the hairline should be thicker then the hair in front of it as that is the natural balding process and what looks normal. If you do not have the donor to continue this pattern it will look completely abnormal and it’s not a matter of if only a matter of when.

                You are using a high percentage of donor on a small percentage of hair loss area, in the end the math usually does not add up. Hope you know what you are doing. You will not be the first nor the last who has been given poor advice, so you will not be alone.
                I definitely appreciate the thought, and it's something I've considered. One thing I took into account is my age and rate of recession. While 31 isn't "old," it's not "young, necessarily, in terms of hairloss. I'm not one of the 24 year olds on these boards. I've always receded very slowly, and I can't find any evidence that that recession has continued since my surgery in 2012. I'm treating as aggressively as possible, so I'm not jumping off without a net. For example, there have been numerous 20-somethings on this forum that have used ~2,200 grafts for a NW2-3 *without* being on a DHT inhibitor. To me, at least, that's far riskier than what I'm doing.

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                • Jazz1
                  Inactive
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1598

                  #23
                  I say go for it, hopefully future technology might get better or just shave it, at least by doing this your moving on in life, it's too short just get it done and move on be happy. I would have done the same going for perfection, will make me more happy, at least what your doing is what you feel right.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1776

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jazz1
                    I say go for it, hopefully future technology might get better or just shave it, at least by doing this your moving on in life, it's too short just get it done and move on be happy. I would have done the same going for perfection, will make me more happy, at least what your doing is what you feel right.
                    He looks great already to be honest.

                    My hairstyle/hairline is like his, but the difference is, mine doesnt suit my face, his does.

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                    • rev3
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 61

                      #25
                      wow!

                      great result

                      once the corners are in it will be complete

                      good luck!

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                      • win200
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 420

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rev3
                        wow!

                        great result

                        once the corners are in it will be complete

                        good luck!
                        Thanks--I agree! Just makes me with that I'd gone a little lower in the original, but oh well. I think it looks like a knockout head-on, but the higher corners show a little more when viewed from the side, and the right temple is a bit higher than the left--that'll even out. More pics below.
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                        • topcat
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 849

                          #27
                          Ask all these guys that are telling you to go for it to post pictures of their own results after going for it themselves.

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                          • mynameisrich
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 33

                            #28
                            Wow, already an awesome transformation from the first HT, but i can see what you are going for with the temples.
                            Best of luck!

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                            • topcat
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 849

                              #29
                              Win let me say that I only wish you the best just trying to keep it real.

                              Plenty of young guys over the years used a massive amount of grafts for a low thick hairline. They then came back 5-6 years latter realizing how screwed they were with not enough donor left. They always blamed the doctor and not having the information which would be partly true. If you search the history on some of the forums you might be able to find them as some spoke of suicide. Those guys are not coming back to advise you and hopefully they somehow came to terms with their situation. Many are holed up in a basement somewhere.

                              I am just giving you the information, what you choose to do is up to you, just make sure the numbers add up. I have seen one doctor basically draw out a schematic of the type of the head with the hair loss pattern. Noting the numbers and what goes where you should probably do the same with the possibility of future hairloss entered into the equation and knowing approximately what you donor can achieve.

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                              • win200
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 420

                                #30
                                Originally posted by topcat
                                Win let me say that I only wish you the best just trying to keep it real.

                                Plenty of young guys over the years used a massive amount of grafts for a low thick hairline. They then came back 5-6 years latter realizing how screwed they were with not enough donor left. They always blamed the doctor and not having the information which would be partly true. If you search the history on some of the forums you might be able to find them as some spoke of suicide. Those guys are not coming back to advise you and hopefully they somehow came to terms with their situation. Many are holed up in a basement somewhere.

                                I am just giving you the information, what you choose to do is up to you, just make sure the numbers add up. I have seen one doctor basically draw out a schematic of the type of the head with the hair loss pattern. Noting the numbers and what goes where you should probably do the same with the possibility of future hairloss entered into the equation and knowing approximately what you donor can achieve.
                                Oh, totally understand, and I appreciate the honesty. Obviously there's some element of risk with this strategy, but I'm also not a newbie that wandered into, say, Alvi Armani's clinic and pulled the trigger without knowing what he was getting into. I've thought pretty long and carefully about the upsides and downsides of this strategy, taking into account my treatment plan, my responsiveness to medications, possibilities of new treatments available in the future, etc. Of course I acknowledge the possibility that this all goes south.

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