Dr Cole, Acell, PRP... advice please???

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  • sscobra
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 16

    Dr Cole, Acell, PRP... advice please???

    Hello Everyone! I haven't been on this site for awhile now, but I am now ready for a HT. I am strongly considering Dr. Cole's CIT with Acell PRP. I am 31 now and been dealing with hair loss for 10 years. I have tried everything from laser therapy, shampoos, minoxidil, propecia(now on avodart .5mg for 5 years). It seems like i was keeping my hair for awhile but my receding hairline along with general thinning on top is affecting my life way more than i can handle. I am not bald yet but I need to to do something now. Does anyone have any advice on Dr cole? Acell Prp? I want to have a HT early 2014? And I have been researching for the past 5 years so i am not new to HT idea. Just want to be sure I choose the best dr for me...Thanks for reading!!
    -Shaun
  • John P. Cole, MD
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 401

    #2
    I know a little about the guy. What would you like to know?

    He loves what he does. He's passionate about treating hair loss. He's demoralized when he fails to meet expectations. He's just a regular guy, but he wants you to have a better life because you gave him the opportunity to make your life better. Now here are some negatives. He is brutally honest. If you are not a good candidate for surgery, he will tell you. If you want to do something that is not a good idea, he will let you know. Then again, he is malleable. If he does not like your idea at first, he will think about it. He might change his mind and feel like you have a better idea.

    Well, i've probably said too much already. Best for you to look at all of the doctors and then make up your mind. Give the guy a call if you want too. He's from the southern USA and pretty personable. A lot of patients wind up staying at his house when they want to save money. His door is always open to guys with hair loss provided that they don't mind his hunting dog puppies. They might lick you to death.

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    • Artista
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2070

      #3
      Great response Dr Cole!!

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      • chicago99
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 61

        #4
        Dr. Cole is the best by a large margin. I spent a year doing research on hair transplant docs. I flew across the country visiting various doctors, which was tough on me because of the expense. I met with Dr. Cole in July. He truly cares about his patiients. Dr. Cole is doing my scar revision next month. I would not go to anyone else.

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        • chicago99
          Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 61

          #5
          I meant to say I'm getting scar repair by Dr. Cole. He's my last hope.

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          • northeastguy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 367

            #6
            Originally posted by chicago99
            I meant to say I'm getting scar repair by Dr. Cole. He's my last hope.
            Chicago.... in my opinion and experience, you couldn't be in better hands. your research served you well. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress.

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            • chicago99
              Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 61

              #7
              Thanks northeast! I have been following your progress from the beginning. I just saw the recent pics you posted. Your results look amazing. In fact, your scar repair by Dr. Cole prompted me to see him. I will keep you posted. Please do the same.

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              • Ktownmatti
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 81

                #8
                I actually just had a procedure done by dr cole on Monday.

                Indeed Dr cole was very personable, as was his entire staff. I too did a lot of research and had several consults with other world renowned docs.

                In the end I chose dr cole for his work with acell and prp, and that fact that he specializes in FUE only. I don't think anyone questions he is a skilled surgeon and researcher. I did find some mixed reviews on his "bedside manner", but that's likely from folks who can't except honesty and candidness.

                My fears were immediately assuaged when dr cole greeted my with a smile and a back slap "what's this man doin here, he doesn't need any hair" lol. (I'm 40 and a NW 2.5ish)


                He involved me in the process through out, from designing my hairline to where and how much density to add in thinning areas. He was also very attentive to pain management through out (I burned off the anesthetic quickly)

                I really liked that before we started he performed some tests to measure hair shaft diameter and coupled with family history and age, it was unlikely my hair loss would progress significantly further.

                We also agreed on 2000 grafts before the procedure, but he wanted to add a few more to finish things off to his satisfaction and gave me another 100 grafts at no cost.

                All in all a great experience with dr cole.

                Thank you Dr cole!

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                • crafter
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 239

                  #9
                  how can prp be offered when there's no substantial evidence that it works that well and hasn't been cleared to be used?

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                  • northeastguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 367

                    #10
                    Originally posted by crafter
                    how can prp be offered when there's no substantial evidence that it works that well and hasn't been cleared to be used?
                    PRP has been and is being used for some time now. Just google PRP and uses and you'll see its being used commonly by athletes to improve healling and decrease downtime. Do a little research and you'll find your answer.

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                    • crafter
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 239

                      #11
                      Originally posted by northeastguy
                      PRP has been and is being used for some time now. Just google PRP and uses and you'll see its being used commonly by athletes to improve healling and decrease downtime. Do a little research and you'll find your answer.
                      I am aware of it, but the evidence for it's effectiveness at growing hair, or at least cosmetically viable hair is a bit dubious. If it was so good then why aren't most Drs using it?

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                      • jetfan11
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 100

                        #12
                        Scar grafting

                        Originally posted by crafter
                        how can prp be offered when there's no substantial evidence that it works that well and hasn't been cleared to be used?
                        Crafter,

                        Did you ever get your scar grafted?mif so how did it go? I'm close to doing it as well but still trying to damn scar flat.

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                        • sscobra
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 16

                          #13
                          Thanks to every one for their responses. Sounds like Dr cole is the right choice...as i felt all along. Thank you Dr cole for your response. I may have to take you up on your offer!! I would like to talk to you via telephone soon. I do have some questions for you. Thanks again.

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                          • John P. Cole, MD
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 401

                            #14
                            How can PRP help? It may not! Then again it can make substantial differences that may be objectively measured and followed over time.

                            The benefits of PRP decrease over time. The maximal benefit is at about 8 months. One may repeat PRP at 8 months or 12 months. The second treatment may benefit you. The second treatment may no benefit you. The third treatment may benefit you. When it benefits you, it is often substantial enough that some repeat it every 6 months.

                            This whole process bothers me because it involves money, travel, and a procedure. I'd prefer a mail order process that works consistently. We don't have this. We do have medications that don't always work. Those same medications offer potential side effects that your own platelet rich plasma does not bring to the table.

                            do what is in your budget while we work out the details. if you insist on PRP, let us see if we can do one for free.

                            Now, regarding my bedside manner. Look, I did not come for a family with a whole bunch of money. I worked for everything I have every obtained in life. I look at every patient the same way, which is the way I would want to be treated. At one point in my life, I was a leading authority on strip surgery. I could tell you right off what we could do and what we could not do. Then in 2003, patient demand changed me from a strip surgeon to a FUE surgeon. I did not want to change at first, but patient demand compelled this change. No one else was offering it on a full time basis in North America or Europe. Rob Jones, Ray Woods, and Alan Feller offered it, but only Ray Woods offered it full time. That left me to offer it full time in the remainder of the world. I figured it out and then I did. I taught most of the European physicians one way or the other, which means i taught them or someone i taught passed this education along.

                            Anyway, i catch some beside manner stuff. What it all boils down to is a desire to live up to your expectations. If I cannot do this, I will let you know. At the end of any procedure, my goal is to meet your expectations. When i cannot meet them, I will let you know. I will never place this burden on you. It is a burden i wear myself. If i faIl to meet expectations, i wear the burden more. I guess the real question is how long i bear this burden? Well perhaps not long enough because i need to still make this up to you. I have to meet your expectations. Now, i can also do things in between these options or combinations of these options. Most repair guys paint you in a corner. I do not. i give you freedom to live the life you want. Can i do this? Yes! It often takes more than one procedure, but no one else can do what I do by employing these multiple options. In time they will, but these sorts of procedures take a certain resolve to succeed while pushing the envelope. It takes a decade often for physicians to accept such out of the box thinking. So it lead us to a degree of ****iness. Yes, i have this and i believe i can succeed. I will also tell you that in body hair and repair cases that i can't predict the outcome. I do believe that i will succeed when others will fail often because i know what needs to be done and i know how to get there. Failure is generally because the skin has been poisoned by prior bad hair transplant work. This is the ultimately opponent. Bad work poisons the scalp. That is the ultimate deterrent in hair transplant success.

                            In the past, what i've heard is that i'm overly confident or too self assured. Well, I am. I do my best to deliver. Repair work is a terrible thing. Few can resolve it well. It often takes many procedures to get it right. IT takes a certain skill set to do it properly. When you can do it and no one else seems to get it from the very beginning, I don't know if it is a degree of confidence or a degree of feeling that if I don't do it, someone is going to screw it up and then my job will be more difficult.

                            Let me tell you about my patient today. He had plugs done from 1983 to 1985. He looks like a plug hair transplant. His goal is to look more natural. he does not know his options. what do I do?

                            My options are many. I can take out each follicular unit one at a time and make him a normal bald guy. I can add hair to his plugs and below his plugs and step back to look at the problem in 12 months. If the area still looks plugy i can add more grafts or thin the plugs. I can break up the plugs now to make them look more natural and maintain his hair coverage. At the end of the day, it boils down to whether he wants more hair and more natural or weather he wants less hair and more natural or does he want something in-between. Now, who do i know that can solve this problem with the highest degree of success. Well, if more physicians had jumped on FUE back in 2003, I could give you one or two. The problem is that they did not jump on board. They abandoned ship. This leaves us with a handful of physicians who might be optimally positioned to help this patient. Who are they? Well, some do 5 to 10 cases a month and in about a decade they might catch up to where i was 7 to 8 years ago. The problem is that they, nor no one else can catch up to where I am at this point. Malcolm Gladwell suggested in his book, Outliers, that it takes 10,000 hours of experience to become really good at anything. Anyone who does strip surgery 1/2 to 3/4 of the time will require more than a decade to catch up with me. It just not will not happen. No one is going to be better than I am for one simple reason. I have more surgery time (and i'm really, really good at what I do) than anyone in the world. Furthermore, unless i stop working tomorrow, no one can every catch up to me. It's simple. I'm the best there will ever be until I die. That's not a poor beside manner. It's an honest fact.

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                            • jetfan11
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 100

                              #15
                              scar graft

                              Cobra,

                              I can vouch for Cole's honesty. I have 5 to 11mm strip scar and not much donor left. He was honest that a revision might be better first. Top of my head isnt great either and I want to fix that and he said fix your scar first then worry about top. Both recomendations were honest and in MY best interest not his.

                              I still may just graft the scar without a revision because a revision scares daylights out of me. But my point is other clinics I saw just said do another strip surgery and you'll be good to go. I think that rec is a function of them not caring about my outcome and not having skill to pull of what needs to be done.

                              Not to mention Cole answers all my annoying redundant emails all the time!

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