PRP...Where are trhe photos of evidence?

[Mr. 4000]

We’ll said Destin and Buckerine. It seems like a very small risk to take and there appears to be some real science behind this treatment.

where is the science that has been the question all along?

As far as the investment issue, any doc that had the science built into a business plan and had 20 minutes to share with investors could raise money in a heartbeat.


Hey, I have a new medical procedure that I think helps people keep their existing hair and strengthens their hairs over time, I have used it on a few people. My brother has a full head of hair and he used it and it seems to work for him and I used it put it didn't work as well, so it works on some people and not on others, and thats really all I can say for now because of patent restrictions. I only charge $300 for the treatment and you will only have to come back every 3 months.

Any takers?????????????

[Buckerine11]

where is the science that has been the question all along?

As far as the investment issue, any doc that had the science built into a business plan and had 20 minutes to share with investors could raise money in a heartbeat.


Hey, I have a new medical procedure that I think helps people keep their existing hair and strengthens their hairs over time, I have used it on a few people. My brother has a full head of hair and he used it and it seems to work for him and I used it put it didn't work as well, so it works on some people and not on others, and thats really all I can say for now because of patent restrictions. I only charge $300 for the treatment and you will only have to come back every 3 months.

Any takers?????????????

If you believed that it works, then I wouldn't say it's unethical on your part. And if you provided enough evidence that it may work for some individuals, then it's reasonable for them to try it, if they have the means. And other individuals, who aren't sold on the procedure, won't try it.

[iwannakeephair1674]

where is the science that has been the question all along?

As far as the investment issue, any doc that had the science built into a business plan and had 20 minutes to share with investors could raise money in a heartbeat.


Hey, I have a new medical procedure that I think helps people keep their existing hair and strengthens their hairs over time, I have used it on a few people. My brother has a full head of hair and he used it and it seems to work for him and I used it put it didn't work as well, so it works on some people and not on others, and thats really all I can say for now because of patent restrictions. I only charge $300 for the treatment and you will only have to come back every 3 months.

Any takers?????????????

It was misunderstood for YEARS how Minoxidil worked... but it became FDA approved before it was understood. Also, what do you mean there is no science to it? If you put an extreme amount of growth factors into the dermis where the follicles are close to... it will only benefit hair.

Also, about this only works in some people and not others... well that is EVERY drug in the market. Nothing works for 100% of patients including drugs like Finasteride and Minoxidil. You're really being kind of stubborn about this. What do you do with drugs like Finasteride, they say take it for a year and you will see if it works for you or not. You can have PRP once and see if it works for you or not. If it does great, you only have to come back once every 8 months to a year, if not at least you tried and didn't lose much (very SMALL risk).

If your THIS much against it, then don't get it, but I would hate for you to discourage someone that this treatment may help. That would be a shame.

BTW, this statement you wrote: "Thats really all I can say for now because of patent restrictions" is BS, because he has been the most open doctor I know with this treatment. He has given anyone willing to listen all the information he knows about PRP, even on The Bald Truth radio.

This just urkes me a lot because he has been nothing but upfront from the beginning. It is not like he is making these false claims of 100% regrowth like you see everywhere else. He has been nothing but honest about everything.

[Mr. 4000]

I'm asking for the science or the clinical studies, thats all, does anyone have them??? Thats what the profession does.

Why don't you want my treatment, its cheaper, and yields the same results as far as you or I or any doctor would know??

How about it? It works on some people....take my word for it.

[Buckerine11]

I'm asking for the science or the clinical studies, thats all, does anyone have them??? Thats what the profession does.

Why don't you want my treatment, its cheaper, and yields the same results as far as you or I or any doctor would know??

How about it? It works on some people....take my word for it.

Give me a detailed explanation of what your treatment is, a presentation at the industry conference, support of some doctors, how it may work, and at least fifty testimonials of satisfied patients and I'll consider your treatment.

[Mr. 4000]

Give me the same of PRP first?

I want to see the photos, the dates of treatment, and the evidence that supports the procedure, and a list of the doctors that say this works who are willing to put their reputation on the line. The controlled studies and the list of any side effects with the procedure.

Its only fair I haven't sold my procedure to the public at this time.

[Winston]

I think it’s smart to be skeptical, but open minded. What’s the big deal anyway, if you don't want to get the treatment just wait for other to post their results and you’ll find out if it works or not. Why the big fuss?

[iwannakeephair1674]

Give me the same of PRP first?

I want to see the photos, the dates of treatment, and the evidence that supports the procedure, and a list of the doctors that say this works who are willing to put their reputation on the line. The controlled studies and the list of any side effects with the procedure.

Its only fair I haven't sold my procedure to the public at this time.

You keep saying where are the doctors that are willing to put their reputation on the line. Obviously, the ones who are doing this treatment, since he is not the ONLY one doing this and others are coming on board fairly quickly. You ask where are the studies, dude THIS particular controlled case study has been on his website for months. Although small, it's the best he could do on his own, and if you browse more on his site you will see explanations of PRP on his Blog.

It really does seem you have a personal vendetta against hairloss treatments, maybe because you were unable to take Propecia and I've read you tell others:

"I said F this shit, and ditched, well I had to because of gyno and surgery for that too. It just isn't good for some people. I think you are way too young to start that stuff. You should just let nature takes its course while doing what you can naturally. Eat right, work out a bit, stop any drug use and drinking.

You are spending a ton on supplements and a lot of that is a waste of time and money. Don't panic if you are going to lose your hair its going to happen with or without all those products.

In your late 20's early 30's see where you are and if your hair loss is moderate, then maybe you do something about it, but you are so young. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but WTF when you start chasing your tail this early in the game it could create worse problems down the road. "

When everything Spencer has said and all doctors have said early intervention is KEY.

[Buckerine11]

Give me the same of PRP first?

I want to see the photos, the dates of treatment, and the evidence that supports the procedure, and a list of the doctors that say this works who are willing to put their reputation on the line. The controlled studies and the list of any side effects with the procedure.

Its only fair I haven't sold my procedure to the public at this time.

You think that Dr. Greco is the only doctor doing this? In fact, the topic of PRP treatment has been discussed in depth in the recent ISHRS conference. There were multiple presentations about the prospect of this new treatment. Many doctors at the conference were sold, and are performing this treatment right now. Many were not, and like you, are waiting for more data.

I don't mind that many doctors are being skeptical. In fact, it's the natural process of new treatments. But, I don't see why you have a problem with doctors providing an option to people wanting to try out a new treatment that is based on a procedure that has been used for quite some time in the medical field to improve the efficacy of post-surgical wound healing.

[Mr. 4000]

You think that Dr. Greco is the only doctor doing this? In fact, the topic of PRP treatment has been discussed in depth in the recent ISHRS conference. There were multiple presentations about the prospect of this new treatment. Many doctors at the conference were sold, and are performing this treatment right now. Many were not, and like you, are waiting for more data.

I don't mind that many doctors are being skeptical. In fact, it's the natural process of new treatments. But, I don't see why you have a problem with doctors providing an option to people wanting to try out a new treatment that is based on a procedure that has been used for quite some time in the medical field to improve the efficacy of post-surgical wound healing.

Risk takers with zero to very little evidence of this prospect and profiting while doing so? This isn't the 1800's, but on second though I guess it is.

Making money while being skeptical??? I have a problem with that.

Growing hair and wound treatment are they the same thing?

All I'm asking for is the clinical studies with a control sample that would even come close to the FDA guidelines. Is that too much? Does anyone have anything on this at all? A scientific explaining of some sort that involves hair growth regrowth or maintaining hair?

I do not want to point out specific doctors, I don't care about name dropping or dumping. In theory and practice, I don't think its ethical until there is enough science backing it. Plain and simple cut and dry.

[iwannakeephair1674]

Risk takers with zero to very little evidence of this prospect and profiting while doing so? This isn't the 1800's, but on second though I guess it is.

Making money while being skeptical??? I have a problem with that.

Growing hair and wound treatment are they the same thing?

All I'm asking for is the clinical studies with a control sample that would even come close to the FDA guidelines. Is that too much? Does anyone have anything on this at all? A scientific explaining of some sort that involves hair growth regrowth or maintaining hair?

I do not want to point out specific doctors, I don't care about name dropping or dumping. In theory and practice, I don't think its ethical until there is enough science backing it. Plain and simple cut and dry.

Your missing the point the "many doctors that are being skeptical" Buckerine is referring to ARE NOT the ones doing the treatment. The ones doing the treatment are in fact NOT skeptical and KNOWS it works.

[tbtadmin]

New PRP Video!


Video Presentation of A PRP Injection Procedure for Hair Loss

[Mr. 4000]

Video Presentation of A PRP Injection Procedure for Hair Loss

Thank You, that video is very informative and clearly describes the procedure.

I don't put much stock in one patients results, because what I'm looking for are the clinical trials that would be provided to the FDA without failing to meet their criteria for procedures such as this.

I looked at the before and after and the lighting is so different in contrast it is hard to even know what you are looking for.

PRP may be the future, why aren't all docs on board, apparently these guys have found the cure for MPB. Because from what Iwannakeep said is that they know it works.

Are there statistics of the control group. Is the control group number valid in claiming success. How many were studied? For how long? How many improved their hair count and thickness and how was it measured (you can measure hair thickness and hair count) Why are these numbers not being made public?, and how many did not. Are the injections safe, is there any negative impact to any major organs short or long term? What is the life time cost?

this is all I want to know.

[Buckerine11]

Thank You, that video is very informative and clearly describes the procedure.

I don't put much stock in one patients results, because what I'm looking for are the clinical trials that would be provided to the FDA without failing to meet their criteria for procedures such as this.

I looked at the before and after and the lighting is so different in contrast it is hard to even know what you are looking for.

PRP may be the future, why aren't all docs on board, apparently these guys have found the cure for MPB. Because from what Iwannakeep said is that they know it works.

Are there statistics of the control group. Is the control group number valid in claiming success. How many were studied? For how long? How many improved their hair count and thickness and how was it measured (you can measure hair thickness and hair count) Why are these numbers not being made public?, and how many did not. Are the injections safe, is there any negative impact to any major organs short or long term? What is the life time cost?

this is all I want to know.

It takes a long time to gather that kind of mass data. Many of the doctors offering PRP have only been doing it since the beginning of the summer. I believe Dr. Greco is keeping a detailed record of all his patients that have had PRP done. As far as long term effects, it's impossible to know that until the treatment has been on the market for a long period of time. In fact, we don't even know the long term effects of Propecia, or minoxidil. There seems to be no short term negative effects, but again, it's impossible to know until someone presents with the negative effect, which hasn't happened yet. As for the lifetime cost, given the current price, you're looking at $800 per year, which is similar to what people pay for Propecia at the pharmacy. It's possible that if PRP proves to be a viable option for hair loss, more companies will get into the market, and drive the prices of the PRP kits down.

Btw, the control group, when determining the efficacy of any treatment, means the group that didn't receive the treatment. You, then, compare the results from the control group to the experimental group to draw conclusions.