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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1063

    #16
    Originally posted by drybone
    This is what I thought, until I saw this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHw0lRM8gUM

    check this out.
    It doesn't look good on every white guy, some look silly. I think it is an improvement for that guy.

    I think that it is such a short shaved look that it makes people look thuggish....what makes it worse is that it looks like you have chosen to have that look which gives off a negative impression to people.

    I am not totally ruling it out but so many things are off putting about it.

    I want to try to work out some kind of hair transplant before even considering putting dots on my head.

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    • drybone
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 867

      #17
      Originally posted by sausage
      It doesn't look good on every white guy, some look silly. I think it is an improvement for that guy.

      I think that it is such a short shaved look that it makes people look thuggish....what makes it worse is that it looks like you have chosen to have that look which gives off a negative impression to people.

      I am not totally ruling it out but so many things are off putting about it.

      I want to try to work out some kind of hair transplant before even considering putting dots on my head.
      Put up the source where it doesn't look good on other 'white guys' . You cant just 'say' white guys dont look good. Show us.

      The guy in the video has a huge over shaped head. He is the worst candidate you can imagine yet it turned out great.

      As for the hair transplant, I am not a NW6 and I would consult a doctor regarding 3500 grafts for a guy in your position. They will give you the best advice.

      I am a NW 3 at age 47 so I would not be the best guy to ask.

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1063

        #18
        Don't worry I wasn't asking you specifically. I am speaking with consultants at the moment.

        This is just an example of someone who has had SMP but the hairline from ear to ear just doesn't look right.......this is typical of SMP, the hairline rarely looks natural enough.

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        In the close-up photo you can see the the dots in the hairline are way too big.

        To me the new hairline looks too low and the shape of the hairline looks too harsh and too
        manufactured.

        Look at the photo taken from the side, the SMP dots are darker than his natural hair. I thought they were supposed to match the ink to the hair tone. The top of his head and down too his temples are dark creating some silly shape on his head.

        What makes this worse is the older you get the more ridiculous this is going to look.

        I have yet to see a receded version of SMP, I have a feeling that may work better and look more natural....maybe..I'll have to research.

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        • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 638

          #19
          two sessions with nigam-low price-nw1. what else? more dense? go once more......your donour is unlimitted......
          Originally posted by sausage
          Hi,

          Say you have a Norwood 6, you only have 3500 grafts to play with.

          Can you achieve anything worthwhile in this situation with only 3500 grafts.

          Getting as much coverage as possible with a high-ish hairline and a medium density - or to be more specific a density that is at the limit of what looks reasonable, maybe a thinning look but obviously not too much.

          I am obviously trying to work out what the best outcome you can achieve at the limits of density and coverage, how dense or sparse can you go before hair looks too thin.

          I have been on one of those graft calculator things (yes I know they are not particularly accurate but they surely are some way to a guesstimate of what works)..... http://www.hshairclinic.co.uk/hair-l...ft-calculator/

          I selected the 3-7 areas for coverage with a receded look. I also selected the density of 32 grafts per square centimeter which worked out as a total of 3500 grafts. So according to this it is quite possible to re-build a receded look with coverage with this amount of grafts.

          Is 32 grafts per square cm going to be a reasonable density?

          Can this work.

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          • sausage
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1063

            #20
            Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
            two sessions with nigam-low price-nw1. what else? more dense? go once more......your donour is unlimitted......
            Dr Nigam has a long way to go to proving what he can do and needs to get it going mainstream before any of what he claims will be believable.

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            • sausage
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1063

              #21
              How many surgeons do joint Hair Transplants and SMP?

              How many surgeons approve of SMP?

              Say you are told you are 'limited' in donor hair and can't achieve what you are after........Couldn't an option be to go over the recommended limit by whatever is necessary (without going too over the top) and fill in the back/sides of the head with SMP.

              Would any surgeons be happy to go beyond what they would normally want to take from the back of the head if the patient was happy to fill in thin looking hair at the back/sides with SMP? Then of course the patient would need to keep the sides and back of their hair short.....and could go for this kinda haircut:

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              • ukcali
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 58

                #22
                Originally posted by sausage
                .....and could go for this kinda haircut:

                I'm sorry to say but you would need to have amazing donor density to ever be able to get a hairstyle like that! The top would be far too thin on most people wouldn't it?

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                • sausage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1063

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ukcali
                  I'm sorry to say but you would need to have amazing donor density to ever be able to get a hairstyle like that! The top would be far too thin on most people wouldn't it?
                  Oh god....

                  I just made a separate thread for this and when I wrote it I thought I better emphasise that I was only referencing the HAIR STYLE as I thought someone would say something like 'you will never achieve something that thick' and then I come back in here and someone has written just that.

                  I was simply referencing a hairstyle which keeps the back and sides very short.

                  In no way was I asking for or expecting that density.

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                  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 638

                    #24
                    dear sausage dont go yet cause nigam is already around the corner if you are hard to be convinced , believe it or not he can make 1 hair two and then have the first hair to make it two again and again, the implantation density can be as high as it can for all surgeons,,,,

                    i am just saying

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                    • sausage
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1063

                      #25
                      Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                      dear sausage dont go yet cause nigam is already around the corner if you are hard to be convinced , believe it or not he can make 1 hair two and then have the first hair to make it two again and again, the implantation density can be as high as it can for all surgeons,,,,

                      i am just saying
                      I understand.

                      This is what makes everything so hard and confusing for me.

                      There is not just Nigam's apparent 'cure' being talked about in the upcoming treatment thread, there are several treatments that are being talked about that could come to light in the near future. I do not know what to make of any of them because this kind of thing happens all the time and never comes to fruition. Knowing my luck I'd spend a fortune on a hair transplant and a week later a much better option and a better price will arrive on the scene.

                      Not to mention that I have so much to work out and talk about with various consultants that I feel what could be relatively simple is an absolute ball ache, given the to and fro of consulting, and the waiting times for consultations and hair transplants are ridiculous.

                      It is hard work.

                      I feel I know what I want but am far far from getting anything done and I feel like I need something done now or at least before another year goes by....as I get closer and closer to 30 years old.

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                      • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 638

                        #26
                        oh i see then, so if we see that nigam current documented cases appear extraordinere results qith donour regen i fly to india will you join?

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                        • sausage
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1063

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                          oh i see then, so if we see that nigam current documented cases appear extraordinere results qith donour regen i fly to india will you join?
                          ummm........

                          1. You could be a mentalist, so I am not so sure lol.

                          2. I think it would take a lot more than Nigam showing us images of growth to convince me. I need some solid proof that the whole hairloss industry takes note of.

                          3. If above happend I think there would be a massive waiting list.

                          4. I would first need to know if it is totally safe and that my balls won't turn into melons.

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                          • KO1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 805

                            #28
                            can you just post pics of where you are....?

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                            • sausage
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1063

                              #29
                              Where I am..... hair-wise?

                              I am NW6, think that's as much info as u need.

                              Another option is...

                              If 3000 grafts is the average amount of grafts to go from a receded hairline look with coverage up to halfway up the scalp then for me 2000-2500 grafts could be used a bit more sparsely to take it a little bit further than halfway up the scalp........

                              then 2000 grafts sparsely into the crown would possibly do for me to give a thinning look and more importantly frame my face.

                              What I need to understand is how 2000 grafts spread sparsely through the crown look.

                              If not as thick as I would hope, then maybe 500-1000 SMP dots would work.

                              Got to get creative.

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