can i be that wrong?

[baldy1990]

i went to a very good transplant doctor.To see what's going on.When i went he said there is no reason to check you,you are just fine.He just ran his finger through my hair,you have no problem now he said.There is no reason to do any examination.There are many guys with real problem,i know it's logical to care about your hair but you have no problem.Ok i'll show you some pics and tell me cause i cant be that crazy!

[35YrsAfter]

i went to a very good transplant doctor.To see what's going on.When i went he said there is no reason to check you,you are just fine.He just ran his finger through my hair,you have no problem now he said.There is no reason to do any examination.There are many guys with real problem,i know it's logical to care about your hair but you have no problem.Ok i'll show you some pics and tell me cause i cant be that crazy!

Young people often have very different standards for what they view as an acceptable head of hair. When I was 14, I noticed some minor temple recession. That minor recession later proved to be the least of my hair concerns. Rather than receding, my hair thinned out, first in front and later at the crown and back. When I was young, there was a popular TV show called "The Fugitive". I remember as a young person thinking the show's star David Janssen looked bald with a strip of hair on top.

-35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office

[baldy1990]

Well it's not just what do you like or not,i look it and i'm sure it is mpb,it's not that i have this recession and i'll have this for many many years.So if you have mpb how can they think that you are fine and that you dont need to worry about your hair.Is this recession so minor for my age.Cause i went with the hope of giving me some infos about my hairline,the potentials,the thinning behind my hairline.To not be checked it is like that your hair are perfectly fine and you are just being paranoic..And i really see people here with much less problem than me and they are not considered paranoic and get more attention.So to not be checked is like that i'm not a mpb sufferer and i dont have the danger to thin a lot for the next 10 years am i wrong?Otherwise if i'm in a high risk of thinning a lot,i dont see why any doctor wont give me an attention.

Do i have very high standards for what a recession is?

[FearTheLoss]

Well it's not just what do you like or not,i look it and i'm sure it is mpb,it's not that i have this recession and i'll have this for many many years.So if you have mpb how can they think that you are fine and that you dont need to worry about your hair.Is this recession so minor for my age.Cause i went with the hope of giving me some infos about my hairline,the potentials,the thinning behind my hairline.To not be checked it is like that your hair are perfectly fine and you are just being paranoic..And i really see people here with much less problem than me and they are not considered paranoic and get more attention.So to not be checked is like that i'm not a mpb sufferer and i dont have the danger to thin a lot for the next 10 years am i wrong?Otherwise if i'm in a high risk of thinning a lot,i dont see why any doctor wont give me an attention.

Do i have very high standards for what a recession is?

No you are definitely receding. Your hair looks a lot like mine right now. I went to a very reputable hair doctor and they put me on minox and propecia right away. I had to quit propecia though recently because I got horrible sides from it, so I'm not going to recommend that to you. As bad as hair loss seems, it's not worth the nasty sides and possible long term sides of propecia. That being said, there is a good amount of people that don't get them as well, so it has to be your decision if you want to risk it. I got on RU now and haven't had sides from it and it's supposed to be better than propecia anyway.

[35YrsAfter]

Well it's not just what do you like or not,i look it and i'm sure it is mpb,it's not that i have this recession and i'll have this for many many years.So if you have mpb how can they think that you are fine and that you dont need to worry about your hair.Is this recession so minor for my age.Cause i went with the hope of giving me some infos about my hairline,the potentials,the thinning behind my hairline.To not be checked it is like that your hair are perfectly fine and you are just being paranoic..And i really see people here with much less problem than me and they are not considered paranoic and get more attention.So to not be checked is like that i'm not a mpb sufferer and i dont have the danger to thin a lot for the next 10 years am i wrong?Otherwise if i'm in a high risk of thinning a lot,i dont see why any doctor wont give me an attention.

Do i have very high standards for what a recession is?

What is your family history of hair loss?

[baldy1990]

What is your family history of hair loss?

not much baldness my dad 70 with no hairloss,i'm more receded than him,my mothers father had his hair in 90 lol but one of her 2 brothers went bald,my father's father had very high temples,surely passed the norwood 2 and maybe 3 too at his 70

so i should not to go to another transplant surgeon to check me?

[35YrsAfter]

not much baldness my dad 70 with no hairloss,i'm more receded than him,my mothers father had his hair in 90 lol but one of her 2 brothers went bald,my father's father had very high temples,surely passed the norwood 2 and maybe 3 too at his 70

so i should not to go to another transplant surgeon to check me?

What is your age if you don't mind me asking?

Your family history sounds like it's very good news for you. Sometimes though, MPB finds it's way to a young man from generations back. My brother-in-law receded quite a bit at an early age. The recession virtually stopped at around age 35. He's now over 70 and still has hair on top and no baldness in the rear.

Rogaine and a quality shampoo with DHT inhibitors would be my recommendation. I know of a great shampoo line, but mentioning it here would be considered shameless marketing that is generally not permitted in hair loss forums.

-35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office

[baldy1990]

i'll be 23 in april.I also have seboreic dermatitis so i wash my hair everyday,I'll be very thankful if you have in mind a sampoo with dht inhibitor like you said.Do you think it's worthy to visit another hairtransplant surgeon?I want someone to check my miniturization.I want to do everything to discover the destiny of my hairline.I've heard people that do tests like but i dont know exactly what they do and what are the potentionals of science regarding checking hair and hairloss

[Breaking Bald]

Dude...really I would kill to have hair like that again.

[35YrsAfter]

i'll be 23 in april.I also have seboreic dermatitis so i wash my hair everyday,I'll be very thankful if you have in mind a sampoo with dht inhibitor like you said.Do you think it's worthy to visit another hairtransplant surgeon?I want someone to check my miniturization.I want to do everything to discover the destiny of my hairline.I've heard people that do tests like but i dont know exactly what they do and what are the potentionals of science regarding checking hair and hairloss

I had seborrheic dermatitis when I was 14. I believe there are shampoos specifically designed to address seborrheic dermatitis but haven't used one in years. Many years ago, a doctor prescribed hydrocortisone for my seborrheic dermatitis. They claim that continued use of hydrocortisone cream can cause skin to become thinner which is of course not a good thing.

It's 1:19 Eastern time here. I'll be at work until 6:00 PM. Feel free to call me at 678-566-1011 with any additional questions related to general hair health. Dr. Cole generally will not perform hair transplant surgery on men in their early 20's, but I may be able to answer some general hair health related questions.

-35YrsAfter works at Dr. Cole's office

[gillenator]

Hi Baldy,

I see that you joined last month so welcome to this hairloss community. A couple of things.

First, at 23 years of age, you definitely have IMHO some visual signs of MPB in your frontal zone and the temporal lobe areas. I see both diffusing and some mild recession. I believe some of your hairline movement though is simply a matter of your youthful hairline moving up with age. This happens to many men even to those who do not have MPB.

You also do have some history of MPB so unless you get on some DHT inhibitor, the progression will continue. But it's the rate of progression that cannot be pre-determined by anyone. This is obviously why we ask about family history and why the hairloss meds are often recommended to buy us time. The meds never cure genetic hairloss.

If finasteride is giving you any sides or you prefer to just not take it, there are a number of shampoo related products which claim they remove DHT from the sebum layer of the scalp. You just have to do a search on the internet and see what is available. Most do not require a prescription such as Nizoral (Ketoconazole 1&#37. It also helps control flaking, scaling, and itching. You may already be under the care of a dermatologist and see what they might recommend in light of your seboreic dermatitis condition. HairGenesis is another popular product claiming to remove accumulated DHT from both the sebum and adds DHT blockers to the hair follicles. These are readily available from the over-the-counter pharmacy and even some upper end styling salons. I personally do not endorse either product but some guys state they have some good results with them.

IMHO, finasteride is still the single most effective hairloss medication available through prescription. If there are sides, your hairloss doctor can potentially adjust the frequency of ingestion since finasteride has a positive shelf-life.

The good news is that it does not sound like you have family history of men reaching the upper classes of hairloss. Yes, some HT surgeons may consider you for surgery but I believe many of them would be concerned about you experiencing shockloss when you have so much native hair exisitng and diffusing right now. Surgery can also start to advance the receding at a young age and I have talked with many guys who began to "chase" their hairloss with more and more surgery. This may have been the first doctor's concern, not necessarily his opinion that you did not have MPB at all.

But possibly doing a small FUE session would help you close some of the temporal recession as long as the lobes are not brought forward too much. Once the grafts are placed, you cannot move them south and you want to preserve donor for future work should you continue to recede which is obviously very likely over your lifetime. Your hairline can be potentially strengthened as long as again the placement of the grafts are not juvenile.

It's the diffusion that I believe that you are noticing in the frontal zone and yes there are some docs that can potentially examine your entire scalp with a high-powered scope and actually show you on a monitor where the diffusing is impeding.

Why do I suggest FUE? Because again of the family history and the likelyhood that you will never go advanced or completely bald. Notice the key word is "likely". This is why a safe more conservative approach is more fitted for you IMHO. I recommend strip to guys who do have lots of hairloss in their cards so-to-speak. But if you can get through this life without multiple sessions, then FUE will not leave you with a strip scar. You may want to buzz your scalp sometime in the future.

Hope this is of some help to you and wish you the best in your journey of research.

[baldy1990]

VERY informative answers i got,thank you!Well as i said one uncle was bald not in the crown but he died young at his 40

i'll check for these sampoos for sure!

also what doctors are these who can examine my entire scalp?

is there any areas where i should use rogaine