Astressin B Test Update

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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1410

    Originally posted by Mojo Risin
    They said it cannot work when applied topically.

    But even the blog is a fake so ...
    huh? the blog is fake?

    has anybody emailed the company to ask about the discrepancy between their claims and some scientists(the bloggers)?

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    • antman
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 6

      what is the web address for this blog?

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      • Mojo Risin
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 157

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        • thechamp
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1770

          What

          What a piece of shit site they also say green tea cures baldness hahaha if only it was that easy

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          • Mojo Risin
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 157

            Yeah they banned me for saying their website was a joke.
            Look at their ''research team''.

            Sarah Campeau Omeopath and Yoga instructor.

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            • thechamp
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1770

              Need hair update??

              Update need hair

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1410

                crown looks good but having trouble deciding how the product is doing on my hairline


                cant put much faith in the product if I'm the only one with "results"

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                • thechamp
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1770

                  I think I have results

                  But I'm
                  On fin 3 4 times a week and my hair is early stage thining

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                  • antman
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 6

                    i wonder if retin-a would help with absorption. i'm thinking of using it with spectral f7

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                    • NeedHairASAP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1410

                      Originally posted by antman
                      i wonder if retin-a would help with absorption. i'm thinking of using it with spectral f7
                      I'd be careful



                      @champ

                      a lot of people don't bother posting, so the lack of other posted results doesn't necessarily mean it doesnt work-- however it is kind of discouraging

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                      • Hair Bear
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 115

                        I'm sure we will hear from others eventually, as I type this message I am sure there is someone out there making their own evaluations on the product, weather they post here or not is perhaps dependent on the welcome they receive, I have seen many new members on many boards get grilled for their input at an early stage of their board life so our hostile attitudes may be at fault here.

                        Yep and I am aware that this is my second post here.

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                        • thechamp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1770

                          So is this Turing out to be another trx2

                          All hype but nothing

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                          • clandestine
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 2005

                            Relevant review from amazon.com

                            According to the website, Spectral.F7 "contains 15 parts per million or 0.015g/L of astressin-B in solution". Astressin-B is the "working" ingredient. It goes further to state, "it contains no solvents other than water". Therefore, there are only two ingrediants - water and astressin-B.

                            So lets put this into perspective:

                            For the comparison, lets use a Liter of Coke.

                            1L = 1000ML, so there are 1,000 Millileters in a liter.
                            1ML = 1g
                            1g = 5 "drops"
                            1 drop = 0.20g

                            Therefore, in looking at the .015g/L of astressin-B per liter of water in this solution, we have to compare the .015g to 0.20g (one drop). We will call the outcome "baby drops".

                            0.20g (one drop) = 13.33 baby drops

                            Now, lets put this together. Fill up a liter of coke with water. Next, take one drop of water, divide that into 13 baby drops, take one of those baby drops and put it into the liter of water you made. Thats how much astressin-B is in this solution. The solution is made up of 99.9985% water and .0015% of astressin-B.

                            I understand that may be all it takes, but I just thought I would point out why it looks, smells, and sprays like water (as the other reviewer stated).
                            Combine this with the notion that Astressin-B cannot be absorbed topically, and there's your answer regarding efficacy of this treatment.

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                            • NeedHairASAP
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1410

                              Originally posted by clandestine
                              Relevant review from amazon.com



                              Combine this with the notion that Astressin-B cannot be absorbed topically, and there's your answer regarding efficacy of this treatment.
                              things dont look good. I guess this is how they produce it so cheap. Although to be fair, each bottle is much less than one liter




                              also, it has a very distinct smell that makes it hard for me to believe its only water and a micro drop of asstressin b

                              but again, those are some pretty disheartening statistics

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                              • Zoidberg
                                Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 64

                                In regards to Spectral.F7 I read this interesting post on another forum and thought it definitely worth sharing (I'd like to add that I don't know if his science is accurate but it seems well educated and plausible to me) :

                                Originally posted by Bmartin1134

                                This is the reason why cortisol levels and hair shedding/loss are intertwined.

                                Cortisol(Corticosteroids) blocks cellular differentiation.

                                So, the reason we experience hair loss is because cortisol response from the DHT sensitivity eventually halts our hair stem cells from differentiating into the hair follicle matrix. At the same time the hair follicle matrix which produces the keratinized portion of the hair, is susceptible as well. Therefore over time as cortisol levels increase and begin to saturate the matrix the hair matrix itself begins to get smaller and thinner, then the matrix is unable to build a thick healthy follicle.

                                Second, nano lipid encapsulation does actually work very well for large molecule chemicals; > 1000g/mol.

                                Third, after the cortisol is removed the cellular differentiation is immediately resumed.

                                Forth, each person has a different threshold for DHT sensitivity and will incur a different cortisol response level. Some people may have a high DHT response that highly increases cortisol while others may have a very low DHT response with very minor cortisol increases. Therefore, some people may need to drop the cortisol by a large margin while other people may need to drop it only slightly.

                                So, in a true setting; not spectral F7. You would have a pure source of astressin-b encapsulated with nano lipids. Then you would apply that as much as needed to reduce your specific cortisol response to as low as possible.

                                The goal isn't to get past the skin barrier. Delivery is targeted directly to the hair follicle and the surrounding epithelial cells.
                                It's not quite an endoresment of F7 and I don't think the original poster has anything to do do with dslabs, but he is the author of a blog called "Homemade Hair Regrowth".

                                I'd just like to quote a little more of what he said on nano encapsulation as I found it quite interesting:

                                Originally posted by Bmartin1134

                                Basically they use the same fat the makes up our cells membrane. They mix this into a solution containing whichever compound you want to encapsulate. Take that mixture and subject it to high frequency vibrations. The fat then clumps together into very small spheres which gives you basic lipid encapsulation. Nano sized lipid encapsulation I believe requires hypersonic vibrations or something like that.

                                I believe they use phosphitydlcholine as the fat.

                                Anyways, our cells want the fat for their membranes so they start absorbing the fat into themselves and as they do that the mixed in ingredients are absorbed as well. Picture two air bubbles in water combining it's similar to that.

                                So with the hair treatment the nano encapsulated product should get absorbed into the hair follicles where it is then absorbed into the cell.

                                So that's how it works, generally.
                                Basically it's renewed my curiosity in this product and made me think it might not be the b/s I thought it was.

                                .....I'm still not going to buy F7 until I see any evidence of it working though.

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