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Old 05-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #51
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I am attempting to make clarifications but more importantly to stimulate good thought as too how we can test ways to cushion the scalp and balance the equation of input and output of nutrients via ejaculation. Don't get caught up in assuming the male reproductinve system has no correlation with MPB that would be absurd. Male Hormones, prostate medications...dont be ignorant there is a very apparent link and with some adding and substracting you can see why. Ejaculating too often is only a measure of the output and input of what is lost. So then you can ejaculate as frequently as you want as long as you replace what is lost however for most of us this is just not the case.
It's not a causal link link but an indirect one. Look on pubmed, I believe it was the army who did that study. Ejaculation does not cause baldness, but rather DHT causes balding and it also drives men to ejaculate. DHT is going to make you bald whether you act on the drive or not.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:26 PM   #52
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Your a norwood 2 because your prostate is being treated with a medication that shrinks it. Your dilemma will be sexual disfunction. BTW massages hardly combat a tight scalp im looking for more effect wat to alleviate this tension. Also if you use rogaine a vasodilator(originally made for blood pressure to increase blood flow) and propecia (originally made to shrink the prostate) its kind of funny to argue my theories when you are treating the very fundamental problems I just explained.
Finasteride doesn't treat hair loss by shrinking your prostate. Decrease in prostate volume is one result of taking finasteride, but the hair retention/growth effect is from the drug binding to the 5a-reductase enzyme. This blocks testosterone from binding to the enzyme and forming DHT (which, btw, doesn't require ejaculation to form in the body, despite what you implied before). DHT is the androgen responsible for miniaturizing hair follicles. Less DHT in your bloodstream means less DHT miniaturizing your follicles, which means slowing, stopping or reversing genetic pattern alopecia in most males.
Sexual dysfunction occurs in fewer than 5% of men who use 1 mg finasteride based on studies done in the last 15 years. I haven't experienced this side effect and neither have most users, including people who have used higher than recommended dosages for 15+ years.

I won't even get into all the other incorrect statements you have posted in this thread.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:36 PM   #53
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I really don't know what to think at this point. I figured a forum of people seeking answers would be a little more open-minded to unproven science. I have emphasize unproven because none of these things have been actually tested proven right or wrong at the very least we can consider them as a possibility. I've been warned about the ignorance of forum readers and it is very apparent to me that you guys are really set in your ways with no way to change it. I hope the best for all of you and I won't waste anymore of your time if I come out some conclusive evidence on the matter I will bring the information back to you just for common courtesy
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:14 PM   #54
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I really don't know what to think at this point. I figured a forum of people seeking answers would be a little more open-minded to unproven science. I have emphasize unproven because none of these things have been actually tested proven right or wrong at the very least we can consider them as a possibility. I've been warned about the ignorance of forum readers and it is very apparent to me that you guys are really set in your ways with no way to change it. I hope the best for all of you and I won't waste anymore of your time if I come out some conclusive evidence on the matter I will bring the information back to you just for common courtesy
I agree with much of what you've said dude. The truth is we don't know exactly what causes hair loss, if DHT was the cause propecia would be the answer for everyone -and it's not. I have my own theories, I like to think outside of the box... So there you have it, someone who is on your side...
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:05 AM   #55
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I dont understand the question? Coma patients are unable to produced DHT as not only can they not ejaculate but they also dont move much being that DHT is also created in the mucles. Besides if you are refering to the lack of blood flow your mistaken its actually a lack of oxygen that iduces a coma? Its also imporant to note the blood going to your brain is not the same as the blood going to your scalp? Your exampe of a coma is not the best counter argument. And by the way do you know very many people that have been measured for hair loss during long periods in a coma? that would be an interesting study please share.
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Muscles are used when undertaking cardiovascular exercise. It is a widely held belief that this actually lowers dht. Even resistance based exercise (performed "naturally" and at a reasonable level) and the act of ejaculation will only only temporarily "spike" testosterone levels. Again, the consensus is that this is unlikely to significantly adversely affect hair loss.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:38 AM   #56
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This was interesting to read.

But I think I know who this is. Aren't you the guy who was on here trying to convince us that if we stop jerking off we can stop hair loss?
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:39 AM   #57
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No offense man. I don't wanna see any studies. I just wanna see pictures. No. I just wanna see 1 picture of 1 bald person who ever grew their hair back from increasing blood flow to their scalp. Then you will have my attention.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:10 AM   #58
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No offense man. I don't wanna see any studies. I just wanna see pictures. No. I just wanna see 1 picture of 1 bald person who ever grew their hair back from increasing blood flow to their scalp. Then you will have my attention.
that's the thing. That theory has been around for a long long time and so far no one has regrown any hair and there are absolutely no pictures....
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:52 AM   #59
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This site should have a gay section for this talk.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:53 AM   #60
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that's the thing. That theory has been around for a long long time and so far no one has regrown any hair and there are absolutely no pictures....
Two things..

A. Nobody has Ever been diligent enough To loosen the scalp while measureing it in a large population so really no evidence exist for or against it.

B. second if the dermal layers have died and fused into the skin then you can't have them back the only hair regrowth you will get is dormant folliicles that have not yet died however stopping hair loss seems logical and attainable if we could cushion the scalp. FYI a study found balding heads were lacking fatt tissue again some believe this causes hair loss others say its the result of hair loss.
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