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    Default Avodart to Propecia? Has anyone done this?

    Hi Everyone, long time stalker first time poster.

    I have a question generally about stopping avodart and resuming propecia. Basically, has anyone done this? and if so what happened? did you have a period of massive hair loss? The only information i've been able to find on this thus far is someone on balding blog who posted that he had massive hairloss after moving from avodart to propecia due to avodart side effects.

    my short story is I took propecia for about 14 months after noticing i was loosing hair at about age 25. After 14 months i thought propecia had definitely worked to slow hair loss but it was still slowly progressing (keep in mind my family history is NW7). I looked at avodart (logic said to me that something slightly stronger might just tip me over the edge and completely stop all loss). I tried this for about 4-5 months in total.

    At first there was no real change but after around 3-4 months there was a pretty large scale fallout, something i had never experienced while taking propecia. I know shedding is something which can happen but on this scale it's like it's just doing nothing for me at all. This along with the cost, bigger fear of taking a medication which isn't licensed etc means i want to go back to propecia and accept the greatly slowed loss. If anyone can point me towards anywhere with information on this based on personal experience that would be great.

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    You're just shedding.... stick to it for at least 6 months before judging how well avodart works

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    You're just shedding.... stick to it for at least 6 months before judging how well avodart works
    the shed phase, is not a shed phase, it should be renamed to the damage phase!
    propecia is doing more damage than saving your follicles, you are upregulating testosterone which does the same thing as dht...in certain peoples cases it can damage follicles than slow hair loss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    the shed phase, is not a shed phase, it should be renamed to the damage phase!
    propecia is doing more damage than saving your follicles, you are upregulating testosterone which does the same thing as dht...in certain peoples cases it can damage follicles than slow hair loss!
    Propecia is doing more damage???

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    to be honest it's not only the shedding, it's the combined damage, cost, and also some minor side effects that have started since avodart that i'd rather live without.. I just wanted to know if i can expect to take a massive hit in terms of hairloss when i switch back.. does anyone know?

    Just for the record i'm not slating avodart at all, i'm sure it does work better for most people, i think i have a little bit of a naff reaction to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingdownthatroad View Post
    to be honest it's not only the shedding, it's the combined damage, cost, and also some minor side effects that have started since avodart that i'd rather live without.. I just wanted to know if i can expect to take a massive hit in terms of hairloss when i switch back.. does anyone know?

    Just for the record i'm not slating avodart at all, i'm sure it does work better for most people, i think i have a little bit of a naff reaction to it.
    how old are you and at what norwood stage? If your hair loss is aggressive than a big shed is expected. I wouldn't panic.... btw, what side effects are you having?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    Propecia is doing more damage???
    yeah...

    the shed phase - when users experience icnreases in oil, sebum, itching, sheds - that is MPB accelarating at a massive speed! because of tesosterone upregulation.

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    if those shedded/damaged mintarised hairs were NOT in thier last cycle of growth users can expect those hairs to regenerate i.e thicken up/grow back because the true cause of baldness has been reduced...but if they were they are gone into vellus/resting phase and propecia alone will not revive them.

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    i'm 26 and about a NW 3 with slight thinning around the crown and a bit of diffuse in the vertex etc, i can't complain in the sense that it's manageable with nanogen/topic etc but i guess everyone wants to manage it long term and save the embarrassment of people pointing out they are going bald. I'm fortunate enough to have a brother who is older so i can see the pattern going, and i have to say i am much better off even with my loss than he was due to medication. But its safe to assume because of the inherited NW7 pattern we both have aggressive loss.

    I never noticed any side effects from propecia apart from in the first few months which subsided and wasn't a big deal at all, it never worried me. With Avodart i got a strange skin reaction i guess like small hives which come out sometimes and headaches etc and generally felt a little like crap. I'm a pretty open person in terms of medication and have been a chemistry student for a long time so i'm not at all paranoid about medications or thier effects, but it was a noticeable change going from propecia to avodart.

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    How's avodart not licensed?
    Anyway. I've switched from proscar then to avodart for a few months then back to proscar and didn't notice any shed. I just switched back to avodart a couple of weeks ago. What totally devastated my hair and caused the biggest shed EVER was switching from Kirkland brand minoxidil to some garbage snake oil on ebay that claimed to have 15% minoxidil. Dualgen 15%. STAY AWAY FROM THAT SHIT AT ALL COST because it's nothing but water. This is a warning to anyone who's come across this shit and is thinking about using it. DON'T. NEVER in my life did I have a shed so massive and altering to my hair like the one I had on this garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT View Post
    How's avodart not licensed?
    Anyway. I've switched from proscar then to avodart for a few months then back to proscar and didn't notice any shed. I just switched back to avodart a couple of weeks ago. What totally devastated my hair and caused the biggest shed EVER was switching from Kirkland brand minoxidil to some garbage snake oil on ebay that claimed to have 15% minoxidil. Dualgen 15%. STAY AWAY FROM THAT SHIT AT ALL COST because it's nothing but water. This is a warning to anyone who's come across this shit and is thinking about using it. DON'T. NEVER in my life did I have a shed so massive and altering to my hair like the one I had on this garbage.
    I see that the forum's "Psycho" still hasn't found a good specialist to cure him from his hysteria. Don't listen to this wackoo. He is lying like a Gypsy. The use of DualGen had nothing in common with his sudden hairloss. He was losing his transplanted hair for about half a year before.

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