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mott02
02-25-2011, 07:01 PM
Was just browsing baldingblog.com and found out that Dr. Rassman's clinic is offering their version of "head tattooing" or as they call it "scalp micro-pigmentation" LOL!

Anyway check out Dr. Rassman's response to some of the comments on the particular article, interesting.
And check out the price...six thousand to do a Norwood 7!
I'm not sure how that price compares to others shops out there but I think that's F'N ridiculous. $6,000 for some F'N dots tattoed on your head! C'MON!

I Wish Hair Grew
02-25-2011, 08:09 PM
I'm kinda shocked at the news because during my research for scalp pigmentation, I recall reading how much he was against the concept and very skeptical of its results

I'm not questioning the quality of the work or giving it a compliment,but I like to believe that HT doctors are honorary psychologist too because going bald/having a bad HT/bad HT scar is psychologically damaging. So I hope a level of honesty and understanding for your clients' plight is slightly more important than a check, yeah I know, wishful thinking

I'm not bashing anyone for having a change of heart, but after I read his article, I was under the impression that he was against it. And from reading the following comment, I was not the only one

"To be honest…upon close inspection, it looks really bad. It’s clearly fake. And I agree with how it’s odd that you went from being really against scalp tattooing to all the sudden offering it yourself.
Don’t worry, you were right to begin with. It doesn’t look good, as evidenced by the pic you shared with us. From a distance, yes, it looks okay. If I were standing within 5 feet of the guy, I would think he looked weird."
-Bob

mott02
02-25-2011, 09:05 PM
That's why I was a little pissed when I saw this.
I read a few negative responses form Dr. Rassman regarding follicle tattooing just recently (within the last 6 months)

Why the change of heart? I think we all know...$

PayDay
02-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Was just browsing baldingblog.com and found out that Dr. Rassman's clinic is offering their version of "head tattooing" or as they call it "scalp micro-pigmentation" LOL!

Anyway check out Dr. Rassman's response to some of the comments on the particular article, interesting.
And check out the price...six thousand to do a Norwood 7!
I'm not sure how that price compares to others shops out there but I think that's F'N ridiculous. $6,000 for some F'N dots tattoed on your head! C'MON!

Come on, no respected doctor would offer hair micro tattooing as a legitimate option for hair restoration. I have always felt that Dr. Rassman’s blog was nothing more then a marketing gimmick and this only proves it. I have read him contradict himself so many times I have lost count. This is just the icing on the cake. I guess hair transplantation is not paying his bills. This is shameful.

HelpROGER
02-25-2011, 10:35 PM
This has to be a joke.

I Wish Hair Grew
02-26-2011, 08:04 AM
That's why I was a little pissed when I saw this.
I read a few negative responses form Dr. Rassman regarding follicle tattooing just recently (within the last 6 months)

Why the change of heart? I think we all know...$

6 months? damn....he lost alot of credibility, I would've appreciated had he simply stated that he did not fully research this technique, thus had no comment on it

Come on, no respected doctor would offer hair micro tattooing as a legitimate option for hair restoration. I have always felt that Dr. Rassman’s blog was nothing more then a marketing gimmick and this only proves it. I have read him contradict himself so many times I have lost count. This is just the icing on the cake. I guess hair transplantation is not paying his bills. This is shameful.

Well I respectfully disagree, I think any HT doctor that provides a combination of proven techniques that helps to restore a patient's confidence through improving his/her hair density is legit

Good scalp pigmentation could compliment a good HT procedure, and vice versa. Especially if the individual likes the buzz cut look

Until they have a cure for baldness, we can't just ignore the various legit alternatives to a complete cure for baldness. If that's the case, then HT procedure wouldn't have advanced as much through the years

Delphi
02-26-2011, 10:45 AM
6 months? damn....he lost alot of credibility, I would've appreciated had he simply stated that he did not fully research this technique, thus had no comment on it



Well I respectfully disagree, I think any HT doctor that provides a combination of proven techniques that helps to restore a patient's confidence through improving his/her hair density is legit

Good scalp pigmentation could compliment a good HT procedure, and vice versa. Especially if the individual likes the buzz cut look

Until they have a cure for baldness, we can't just ignore the various legit alternatives to a complete cure for baldness. If that's the case, then HT procedure wouldn't have advanced as much through the years

It’s a head tattoo! This is not a proven technique. Like with any tattoo the color will fade and change color in time. This is a temporary fix at best and has until now been pushed on these forums by tattoo parlors not doctors. I think that it’s irresponsible for a person who claims to be a healer to offer this to uninformed people who are seeking legitimate treatments for hair loss. Just reading your defense of this shows how desperate people are and Rassman knows this and looks as this a a cash grab. Don’t be stupid people, this is a bad idea and you would have to be a fool to tattoo your head! I can’t even believe that Dr. Rassman has the audacity to promote this.

BaldBob
02-26-2011, 10:55 AM
I don't know if anybody has addressed this issue, but if you have dark brown hair and get your scalp tattooed to match, what happens in 5 or 10 or 20 years when you go gray? You'll have lotsa dark brown dots on your scalp underneath your salt and pepper hair. I bet that will look just lovely....

Delphi
02-26-2011, 11:13 AM
I don't know if anybody has addressed this issue, but if you have dark brown hair and get your scalp tattooed to match, what happens in 5 or 10 or 20 years when you go gray? You'll have lotsa dark brown dots on your scalp underneath your salt and pepper hair. I bet that will look just lovely....

Even worse then that, the tattoos will fade and turn blue. They will have to be redone every few years. Do you know how damaging and expensive that can be? You’re causing micro scaring that might interfere with future treatment AND you have a TATOO on your head!!! This is nothing more then greed, but I’m dumbfounded that a doctor would be brazen enough to try to pawn this off as a legitimate alternative to a hair transplant.

Winston
02-26-2011, 11:55 AM
I think it might be a reasonable way to camouflage bad scaring from prior hair transplant surgeries or scalp reductions, but in these cases the disfigurement from these surgeries are probably worse then the possible odd look of a tattooed scalp. It makes no sense to do this to normal scalps and for this reason I must agree with Delphi about this being very irresponsible for a doctor to sell to patients. I would venture to say that it’s unethical.

Infinity
02-26-2011, 12:08 PM
This might not be a bad idea, at a much lower price. Couldn't you just walk into any tattoo parlor and get this done? I'm a woman. My scalp shows, which looks awful. My friend is loosing her eyebrows, and she wants to get fake eyebrows tattooed on. Should I drag her to a tattoo shop and have them do my head while they're doing her eyebrows? How hard is it just to color in your bald spots?

Infinity

Delphi
02-26-2011, 12:19 PM
This might not be a bad idea, at a much lower price. Couldn't you just walk into any tattoo parlor and get this done? I'm a woman. My scalp shows, which looks awful. My friend is loosing her eyebrows, and she wants to get fake eyebrows tattooed on. Should I drag her to a tattoo shop and have them do my head while they're doing her eyebrows? How hard is it just to color in your bald spots?

Infinity

This is a VERY bad idea. In time the color will fade and turn bluish. You will always have to wear a hat or scarf in the sun and it can cause a host of problems. Why not just use makeup to cover your bald spots? By the way, women who get their eyebrows tattooed inevitably end up looking like freaks. Tell your friend to use eyebrow pencil.

I Wish Hair Grew
02-26-2011, 04:45 PM
It’s a head tattoo! This is not a proven technique. Like with any tattoo the color will fade and change color in time. This is a temporary fix at best and has until now been pushed on these forums by tattoo parlors not doctors. I think that it’s irresponsible for a person who claims to be a healer to offer this to uninformed people who are seeking legitimate treatments for hair loss. Just reading your defense of this shows how desperate people are and Rassman knows this and looks as this a a cash grab. Don’t be stupid people, this is a bad idea and you would have to be a fool to tattoo your head! I can’t even believe that Dr. Rassman has the audacity to promote this.

Proven technique? for what, hair growth or self confidence...I was very specific

What's the difference between scalp pigmentation and wigs/hair systems, HT, FUE, Minoxidil, propecia, prp, acell etc?
All claim to restore self-confidence via hair growth
All demand a long term commitment for "results"

One important requirement that all HT doctors will demand from prospective HT patients is for them to have realistic goals.
I knew that I would never have shoulder length hair again. So my options were simple

1) invest in a wig/hair system that is expensive, maintenance overhead, and glue damage, and long term commitment

2) cosmetic products that cover up bald spots that has maintenance overhead and a long term commitment

3)use Minoxidil that has long term commitment and possible side effects

4) HT/FUE demands scaring of the scalp and it does not cure anything but move hair follicles around. A good HT doctor and a healthy donor area could do wonders, until your balding continues. Depending on your continual hair loss, will require more HT/FUE procedures

5)Use propecia, the possibilities of sexual side effects alone made this a non-option for me. It requires a long term commitment

6)PRP, it did not work on me, but there are claims that it worked on others by HT doctors. You're scaring the scalp in hopes of stimulating hair growth. You still need multi-sessions to get density, if it works on you, thus a long term commitment

7)Acell being simply pig blood was not an option I wanted to consider

8) laser comb treatment, not gonna waste my time or money

9)scalp pigmentation, imitating hair follicles by folks who are not regular tattooist. The fading argument and the long term effects arguments are based off of the knowledge folks have about tattoos, not of this procedure. If having to get yearly touch ups are my only long term commitments, then how does that differ from the other hair options?

Funny thing is that I'm sure each of these hair options were also deemed "stupid" at some point.

RichardDawkins
02-26-2011, 05:27 PM
Acell Powder is made from Pig Bladder, not Pig Blood.

Acell and PRP is your blood mixed with Acell.

Acell is an ECM (Extra Cellulare matrix) it keeps wounds from healing(scar tissue) and works as a scaffold to create not scar tissue instead creating normal tissue, like filling a gap.

From all your named options i would agree except Acell, cause this will be the future, at least in hairtransplants

KeepTheHair
02-26-2011, 05:45 PM
1 easy way to make hair loss worse.

Delphi
02-26-2011, 06:06 PM
With all due respect how can you compare any of these options to TATOOING YOUR HEAD for God’s sake? It’s a TATOO, nothing more, nothing less. The same inks are used in regular Tattooing, don’t be fooled and they do turn bluish- green in time. Hair loss sucks, but don’t be so blind and desperate to make your situation worse. That’s exactly what these sharks are banking on.

I Wish Hair Grew
02-26-2011, 06:10 PM
Acell Powder is made from Pig Bladder, not Pig Blood.

Acell and PRP is your blood mixed with Acell.

Acell is an ECM (Extra Cellulare matrix) it keeps wounds from healing(scar tissue) and works as a scaffold to create not scar tissue instead creating normal tissue, like filling a gap.

From all your named options i would agree except Acell, cause this will be the future, at least in hairtransplants

thanks for the Acell clarification

unfortunately, we live in the present....many of these options were deemed the future when they first came out. And then it became a matter of comparing which option was more promising of restoring self-confidence, sooner rather than later, then something else was introduced, and we repeat the query all over again

1 easy way to make hair loss worse.
Please be specific so we could all benefit


With all due respect how can you compare any of these options to TATOOING YOUR HEAD for God’s sake? It’s a TATOO, nothing more, nothing less. The same inks are used in regular Tattooing, don’t be fooled and they do turn bluish- green in time. Hair loss sucks, but don’t be so blind and desperate to make your situation worse. That’s exactly what these sharks are banking on.

I'm comparing the promise each make. None of the options cure baldness....so agin I ask you what is the difference between them?

If there existed a cure for baldness, then these options and these type of forums wouldn't be in existence
You are saying it's just a tattoo without any perspective on the actual procedure. You could go down that list of options and make simplified dismissive claims for each one...

Acell is just pig bladder,
HT/FUE is just moving hair follicles around
PRP is just your own blood
propecia causes sexual side effects
wig/hair system is over priced

RichardDawkins
02-26-2011, 07:22 PM
Someone who calls a wig the future must be insane or i dont know

Tattoos are so absurd that i wouldnt even consider it without a cure in the near future, this is insane

A hairtransplant is actually not only a shifting from hairs, in my opinion a hairtransplant is a shifting of genetic material

I Wish Hair Grew
02-26-2011, 10:21 PM
Many of us have hind sight 20/20 vision....wigs/hair systems were the only options during a period, thus the improvement on the wig/hair system was deemed the future
Shifting of genetic material / shifting of hair follicles...tomato / tomoto.....the point I was making is that it does not cure baldness

At the end of the day, these exchanges encourage growth and understanding of the options folks have who suffer from hair loss. I recall the same level of dismissive and non-supportive tones when I was researching my first HT procedure

Master King
02-27-2011, 07:53 AM
This has to be a joke.

It does sound absurd.

Delphi
02-27-2011, 09:36 AM
Many of us have hind sight 20/20 vision....wigs/hair systems were the only options during a period, thus the improvement on the wig/hair system was deemed the future
Shifting of genetic material / shifting of hair follicles...tomato / tomoto.....the point I was making is that it does not cure baldness

At the end of the day, these exchanges encourage growth and understanding of the options folks have who suffer from hair loss. I recall the same level of dismissive and non-supportive tones when I was researching my first HT procedure

These are not dismissive or non-suportive tones. This is not a treatment that will be accepted in the future as a viable cosmetic option for hair loss. This is a SCALP TATOO for crying out load! People who are selling this crap are making a mockery of balding men looking for help and I find it even more distasteful to see Dr. Rassman selling it.

I Wish Hair Grew
02-27-2011, 09:59 AM
Please don't pick and choose what to reply to....again, I'm comparing the promise each make. None of the options cure baldness....so I ask you what is the difference between them?

If there existed a cure for baldness, then these options and these type of forums wouldn't be in existence
You are saying it's just a tattoo without any perspective on the actual procedure. You could go down that list of options and make simplified dismissive claims for each one...

Acell is just pig bladder,
HT/FUE is just moving hair follicles around
PRP is just your own blood
propecia causes sexual side effects
wig/hair system is over priced

Delphi
02-27-2011, 10:09 AM
Please don't pick and choose what to reply to....again, I'm comparing the promise each make. None of the options cure baldness....so I ask you what is the difference between them?

If there existed a cure for baldness, then these options and these type of forums wouldn't be in existence
You are saying it's just a tattoo without any perspective on the actual procedure. You could go down that list of options and make simplified dismissive claims for each one...

Acell is just pig bladder,
HT/FUE is just moving hair follicles around
PRP is just your own blood
propecia causes sexual side effects
wig/hair system is over priced

What perspective does one need? Cosmetic tattooing fades, plain and simple! It does not matter if it’s an eyebrow, eyeliner or whatever, they all fade. This is a form of cosmetic tattooing and it too will fade in time and most likely look hideous. You sound extremely naive when you post this argument. How can you compare medication, surgery and scientific advancements to a Tattoo?

RichardDawkins
02-27-2011, 10:36 AM
A possible unlimited Donor supply is in my books a cure.

Around 100 new hairs on a small test scale from one injection well is almost a cure in my books.

But i get it, from time to time some users pop up to discourage people are talk crap about something.

You know shifting genetic material on a big scale IS a cure. Lets say you have a blank 20 square centimer area you have to cover, if you transfer good genetic material to this area you are finished forever

I Wish Hair Grew
02-27-2011, 11:48 AM
What perspective does one need? Cosmetic tattooing fades, plain and simple! It does not matter if it’s an eyebrow, eyeliner or whatever, they all fade. This is a form of cosmetic tattooing and it too will fade in time and most likely look hideous. You sound extremely naive when you post this argument. How can you compare medication, surgery and scientific advancements to a Tattoo?

Actually I'm more realistic in my understanding of the options available to combat hairloss because I accepted the fact that there are no cures and most folks want self confidence via "having hair"

So medication, surgery and these scientific advancements are all alternatives to achieving self confidence not a cure. Scalp pigmentation is no different in demanding a long term commitment that these other options also demand. And like these options, you must do research and find folks who are good at what they do and provide a long term support system if needed

Your claims of it fading, whether it's true or false, are solely based on your knowledge of tattoos and not the actual procedure. All these balding options have folks who have had negative experiences and results, so why not dismiss them all?



A possible unlimited Donor supply is in my books a cure.

Around 100 new hairs on a small test scale from one injection well is almost a cure in my books.

But i get it, from time to time some users pop up to discourage people are talk crap about something.

You know shifting genetic material on a big scale IS a cure. Lets say you have a blank 20 square centimer area you have to cover, if you transfer good genetic material to this area you are finished forever

Unless you're dealing with laser combs and such, I don't think you should dismiss anything that satisfies what the patient desire, which is self confidence via "having hair"

crowningglory
02-28-2011, 12:25 AM
These are not dismissive or non-suportive tones. This is not a treatment that will be accepted in the future as a viable cosmetic option for hair loss. This is a SCALP TATOO for crying out load! People who are selling this crap are making a mockery of balding men looking for help and I find it even more distasteful to see Dr. Rassman selling it.

I agree with most of the responses here, scalp/head tattoo is in no way a treatment for baldness or hair loss and it is not really a good sign that a known hair doctor is selling such a cosmetic procedure when he should and can do more productive time with an actual treatment.

krauss
03-03-2011, 09:00 AM
Seems like the newest $$$ money scheme by this guy. Yes, he was so against it. Scuttlebutt says Rassman is now connected with HIS tattoo clinic in UK. I am not completely sold on this tattoo stuff yet either, but his pictures look like s**t!!!!! Let's see some good closeups not that crap. Let's see that it's follicles, the size and not dermmatch or toppik. If a doctor can be a tattoo artist, then a guess a tattoo artist can be a doctor, too.

Vpoletrave
06-05-2011, 03:37 AM
This site looks like it's gonna be very helpful for people.

Follicle Death Row
06-06-2011, 12:59 PM
What a disaster SMP could be. I'm beginning to question Dr. Rassman. Actually I was thinking the other day, suppose someone goes for a FUT today and within ten years Aderans perfect hair cloning to the degree that this illusion of density bs was over; they might feel like a right idiot for taking the plunge. The longer you can hold out the better your options will be in the future.

DepressedByHairLoss
06-06-2011, 01:10 PM
This is just a ****in joke and really serves as a microcosm to the shit options that we unfortunately have as so-called remedies for hair loss. It really pisses me off to an unbelievable degree. I mean, it has been shown that WNT, Noggin, BMP's, stem cells, and TB-4 have been shown to possibly produce robust hair growth yet all we have for solutions are utter shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants (not to mention these 'all-natural' treatments which are an absolute joke). And these researchers who supposedly make these discoveries using WNT and Noggin and other chemicals for hair regrowth are perfectly content testing on mice til the day they die without doing a damn thing to benefit humans. Some one really has to do something to turn this crock industry upside down. But on the other side of the coin, I give massive credit to Dr. Greco, Dr. Cooley, and Dr. Hitzig who are actually trying to develop innovative and effective ways to regrow hair.

RichardDawkins
06-06-2011, 01:54 PM
What a disaster SMP could be. I'm beginning to question Dr. Rassman. Actually I was thinking the other day, suppose someone goes for a FUT today and within ten years Aderans perfect hair cloning to the degree that this illusion of density bs was over; they might feel like a right idiot for taking the plunge. The longer you can hold out the better your options will be in the future.

You give them 10 years? Thats way too much, you know a few days ago i read something really crazy at hair site. Where Umar was working on a NW7 guy (something nobody would do, but he explained it under the possibility of upcoming future treatments like hair multiplication.

I was like " WTF is going on"

Quote : With the donor supply limitations imposed by this method, it would be irresponsible to attempt a transplant on a patient with hair loss this severe.

The future of hair restoration should be premised on:

1. The absolute or relative absence of donor supply limitations
2. Genetic manipulation that renders DHT sensitivity a non issue

The restoration performed on the following individual was based on the above premise, buoyed by the fact that his expectations were very reasonable. Here he is 1.25 years after his hair transplant which was all done in 1 session:"

And then i was really really really really really really pissed because NOW all of those surgeons begin to slowly admit " Nom nom nom yeah yeah donor regroth is possible we could do it today nom nom nom but hey NOBODY of you patients asked"

Finally we go somewhere and i like it because it was long overdue that evben standard transplants go one step beyond.

Delphi
06-06-2011, 02:30 PM
What a disaster SMP could be. I'm beginning to question Dr. Rassman. Actually I was thinking the other day, suppose someone goes for a FUT today and within ten years Aderans perfect hair cloning to the degree that this illusion of density bs was over; they might feel like a right idiot for taking the plunge. The longer you can hold out the better your options will be in the future.

Everybody should question Dr. Rassman. He’s selling HEAD TATOOS for thousands of dollars and claims to be a doctor. It’s a disgrace, and should not be taken seriously as a viable treatment for hair loss. I hate to think how many men were convinced to do this to themselves because Dr. Rassman has a popular, self promotional blog. These poor guys will certainly regret it in a few years if not right away!

Follicle Death Row
06-06-2011, 02:58 PM
Everybody should question Dr. Rassman. He’s selling HEAD TATOOS for thousands of dollars and claims to be a doctor. It’s a disgrace, and should not be taken seriously as a viable treatment for hair loss. I hate to think how many men were convinced to do this to themselves because Dr. Rassman has a popular, self promotional blog. These poor guys will certainly regret it in a few years if not right away!

On paper he looks like one of the pioneers and standup guys but I can't believe he's doing SMP now. Plus he offered Jon Gosselin a hair transplant to get some TV time for his practice. Gave him way too few grafts so that he had him on the hook in the future. Also some poor young norwood 6 won a prize and he went ahead and tried to restore his hair when he had neither enough donor nor the appropriate characteristics. The result was shocking. He also claims to have invented FUE. Yeah right.

Delphi
06-06-2011, 05:51 PM
On paper he looks like one of the pioneers and standup guys but I can't believe he's doing SMP now. Plus he offered Jon Gosselin a hair transplant to get some TV time for his practice. Gave him way too few grafts so that he had him on the hook in the future. Also some poor young norwood 6 won a prize and he went ahead and tried to restore his hair when he had neither enough donor nor the appropriate characteristics. The result was shocking. He also claims to have invented FUE. Yeah right.

I don't trust what these doctors write about themselves on the internet. Any doctor who offers head tatoos is not a real doctor and is in it only for the money.

Follicle Death Row
06-07-2011, 12:44 PM
Agreed. SMP is not a viable option.

RichardDawkins
06-07-2011, 12:58 PM
SMP is irreparable even with hair multiplication you simply cannot camouflage the tattoo its impossible even with a 300 density, because when your hair turns grey etc.

Sorry but people should never opt for a head tattoo this is just as wrong as scalp reduction. sorry this madnes has to stop

damnhair
06-22-2011, 09:18 PM
Why would (or should) this not be an option, IF you were dark skinned, had black hair (no family history of going grey), looked best with close shaved hair styles, and only wanted it to cover up for receding corners?

Thats basically the situation I'm in right now, and this looks like exactly what I've been looking for (especially if they really are using different inks than traditional tattoos, which will fade more rapidly...taking away some of my fear of making a permanent mistake).

I feel like I dodge the problems most ppl. state with this procedure, but I'm still weighing options, as I've never had any cosmetic procedures (or tattoos) at all =/

Thanks for your opinions!

Infinity
06-23-2011, 07:31 AM
I was considering the tattoo option, because I'm a woman. My hair loss is throughout. What makes matters worse is I am white and very fair skinned with practically black hair. In addition, my hair is curly. So, in between the clumps of spirals you see head, head, head, head, everywhere! We don't want head, we want hair! Everyday I "paint" my scalp with Dermamatch. It's OK. But not the same as hair. I would love to come out of a shower or swim and not have to paint my head (women have enough to do already :eek:). So, I thought I'd have my entire head colored in, solid. I know this sounds crazy, and I probably won't do it, but man, if you thought hair loss was bad, try experiencing it as a woman. Not a good hair day!

Delphi
06-25-2011, 06:23 AM
I was considering the tattoo option, because I'm a woman. My hair loss is throughout. What makes matters worse is I am white and very fair skinned with practically black hair. In addition, my hair is curly. So, in between the clumps of spirals you see head, head, head, head, everywhere! We don't want head, we want hair! Everyday I "paint" my scalp with Dermamatch. It's OK. But not the same as hair. I would love to come out of a shower or swim and not have to paint my head (women have enough to do already :eek:). So, I thought I'd have my entire head colored in, solid. I know this sounds crazy, and I probably won't do it, but man, if you thought hair loss was bad, try experiencing it as a woman. Not a good hair day!
I know how desperate you feel, but tattooing your head is a very bad idea. I personally think it’s unethical and irresponsible, especially for a doctor to promote this. Dr. Rassman just sees this as a cash grab and it’s disgusting! Please don’t do this to yourself.

dgman21
06-25-2011, 07:16 AM
I'm a guy experiencing this same type of loss and I'm 32 and not married. If I was 52 and happily married I may feel different!!!!!!!

damnhair
06-26-2011, 10:17 PM
I know how desperate you feel, but tattooing your head is a very bad idea. I personally think it’s unethical and irresponsible, especially for a doctor to promote this. Dr. Rassman just sees this as a cash grab and it’s disgusting! Please don’t do this to yourself.

Well, micro pigmentation (whether for the lips, eyelids, scalp, or whatever) is a cosmetic procedure (as is a hair transplant), so obviously most doctors or practitioners involved with it, are in it for the $. That shouldn't really matter to anyone considering it though. As a person considering scalp pigmentation (or a hair transplant), the most important thing should be how well the service provided will suite your needs. That is the only way to determine if it is a bad idea.

If scalp pigmentation was able to provide her with the appearance of hair density that she is looking for (and accomplish that at a lower cost than a transplant or other procedure, with less medical risk than hair growth drugs), then I think it would be a very GOOD idea.

Scalp pigmentation definitely has its limitations (can't grow, wont change color to match your natural hairs potential color changes), but I think it has a lot of potential as well.

Obviously it's not natural, but no treatment is. Drugs change your bodys "natural" chemical balance. Transplants move hairs from their "natural" positions, etc. None of that matters. What matters, is to make whoever is doing it look (and subsequently feel) better.

I myself will be having scalp micropigmentation within the next 3 months (just deciding between companies now). I had a face to face meeting with a man who had scalp micropigmentation done over his entire head today, and although I did not examine it under a magnifying glass, it DID look quite natural AND REAL from less than a foot away. He had the very "defined" hairline that I'm not a big fan of with scalp micropigmentation users, but aside from that (which I assume was his choice), his "hair" looked extremely good. Basically, my only issue was that the hairline looked "too good". If any of us had that issue with our hair, I doubt we'd even be posting here anymore lol.

Additionally, the negative claim often made about SMP being prone to "change color over time" appears to be false. I was concerned about this too, but have found at least one company (one of the best), willing to put it into a written guarantee, that their inks will NOT change color over time (although they may fade to a lighter shade of black or dark grey over time).

Basically...SMP is not for everyone, but it certainly isn't the devil either lol

jt1212
07-14-2011, 03:45 PM
I've been reading all the posts to do with scalp pigmentation and I talk by experience because I have just had the procedure in london and birmingham and continue to try to sort out what I consider to be a very very poor result from supposedly the biggest clinic in the uk.My story is I had a supposed mega session strip surgery with NHI in athens in 2006 it was a disaster cost me £5500 and all I was left with was a scar from ear to ear that I was told would disappear within four months five years on it is still there I also had some crown work in 2009 from another clinic in london which wasn't very good either so that was £8000 spent as most of you are doing I was looking for anything I look younger than I am I dress really stylishly but I've been losing my hair since I was 21 years old I'm now 42 so I decided to look at smp with the biggest and best clinic in the uk(they also have other clinics abroad)apparently they haven't had a complaint in eight years of doing this which is very impressive so I met them in london and decided to go for it the cost was £3000 as I was quite advanced allthough I did have some hair on the front from my previous strip in athens my conclusion is exactly what delphi says I totally agree with him this is a tattoo end of a few days after I had the first procedure it started fading out delphi was having a debate with I wish I had hair about fading well I can tell you it fades out after a few days its a disaster the inks which are supposed to be more specialised than a normal tattoo(I've never had a tattoo before)run it looks like a blueish green stain running over your head I don't know much about normal tattoo's but I don't think they would start to fade or run within a couple of days its really bad if I went to a tattoo parlour in london I don't think this would happen after a few days the pictures they show on their website are not what I've experienced their crown work is terrible I printed some of their pictures of crown work off the internet and said I want the crown to look like that and the response was we can't do that even though my horseshoe wasn't as bad as in the other photos my response to damnhair is if you haven't had smp yet don't do it honestly its not worth it the practitioners are supposed to be well trained with years of experience yet I've been to birmingham twice and london five or six times and they still can't get it right everytime I ask for a certain thing to be done and they can't seem to do it I come out with exactly the same look as I had before they say don't sweat(how can you stop sweating especially in the summer)don't go in the sun don't do this don't do that in summary as delphi said don't waste your money I know your desperate like I am but look for something else this is not the answer it does fade out very very quickly moreso than a normal tattoo it does run really badly I wish I hadn't done it now and am talking to the clinic now about the way forward they'll show you all the glossy pictures that you see on the website what you need to do is talk to people in person to see the work of the clinic or practioner that is doing your procedure and take it from there personally I think this looks better on dark or afro caribbean type people who only need small areas worked on it doesn't look natural it looks like its been painted on luckily I've got a little hair on top which masks that if you got no hair top and back I would strongly advise against having it done unless you like a matt gloss finish it looks ridiculous and finally no doctor should be promoting smp its all about money at the end of the day I wish I hadn't had it done in the longterm its not a viable solution to baldness don't go there.

JonB.
07-15-2011, 05:51 AM
I also met with the same gentleman in NYC recently and I too believe this to be a clean crisp look and at 52 years old this year I believe this is a viable option.

I have signed up to have this MHT procedure and I look forward to the freedom that it offers.

I've met serveral individuals who have had this MHT procedure and its impressive. Its a nice clean totally realistic look. This is my impression from meeting several individuals who have had this MHT procedure done.

I believe hair transplantation is a valued path for many to take and I believe the HIS MHT procedure is also a viable option.

Combining the two makes perfect sense for increased density something that many hair transplant doctors have challenges with or create the need for multiple surgery's. MHT can be a valuable tool in decreasing the need for secondary or possibly three transplant procedures...and still achieve a great look. (although the cost quoted in the first post here seems quite excesssive and probably inaccurate)


All I am suggesting is to keep an open mind to new tools available to hair transplant doctors that might aid them in creating a new and exciting look with a hair transplant...

I in fact will not be undergoing a hair transplant but rather moving to the clean crisp look of MHT. I did my research and believe this is an exciting way for me to go. I will be having the service completed in NYCity as the office opens this fall. I've already scheduled it with the owner.

I understand those who prefer the hair transplant or hair transplant surgery and MHT process combined.

When the day comes that hair cloning is available...which supposedly is possible sooner rather than later...if we are to believe reports..(J/K) then I always have the option of having a hair transplant as well...

I hope this gives insight to what some of us are considering, what some of us are doing and all I am suggesting is keep an open mind. All the while doing the research for what I believe is a wonderful option..

The firm I am using has headquarters in England and is opening up services in the United States as well. I have done my research and for those who might consider this MHT process in addition to a hair transplant or instead of....this is the fine organization I personally recommend.

Hope this helps share information and of course thats what this great site is about.

JB

RichardDawkins
07-15-2011, 05:58 AM
No i personally just cant give a YES to scalp tattoos even in desperate cases. Sorry its unethical and a lazy way for docs to make more money with less effort.

Just LOOK which clinics this stuff offer to patient and what age the performing or head surgeons (rassmann) are? You see the thing here. Its just highly unethical, only because those clinics simply missed the train to "Futur treatements" they sell this stuff.

JonB.
07-15-2011, 06:11 AM
Richard,

I respect your opinion and I hope that as a member of this community for several years I hope you would respect my findings.

I understand the concerns and of course there are firms that after doing my research I would not use.

That said. ....I did my due dilegence with the HIS firm out of England, I have personally met with clients who had this service done and I was impressed.

Misinformation is a dangerous thing. I've done my research, seen those who have had this fine HIS service completed and I'm moving forward with it this fall.

I have recieved multiple emails from supposedly competing services and their ethics are questionable to say the least.

I have found that HIS service has a business model and ethics that I can respect.

Of course having a hair transplant by one of the fine doctors on this site is a wonderful option for many. This was not the case for me after the fine consultations by the well respected doctors on this site.

I did not feel like going through multiple hair transplant procedures over a period of years. I'm not a model. I don't play one on TV. I beieve I can achieve a very clean crisp low maintaince look using HIS Services.

I will certainly report back in the fall after I have this fine service completed and will show before and after photos for those of you to examine.

All I ask is that you be respectful and kind as you view my before and after photos ...

I do believe from my research that HIS MHT service can assist even the finest hair transplant doctors achieve a fuller, higher density look with some individuals in the near future.

Keep an open mind...continue on your present path and have a nice day.

damnhair
07-15-2011, 09:09 AM
I can't help but think jt1212 is just another account made by one of the posters recently bashing smp. I hate to say that, because everyones opinion is valuable, but to make a post like that the first day of joining the forum, saying that you agree 100% with another poster who made statements using the same language is a bit beyond suspicious to me =/

jt1212....If you really are someone who has undergone SMP with a poor result, I'd love to see pics of the procedure (tagged with a piece of paper showing your forum name to prove their authenticity). If your interest is to stop others from making the same mistake you claim to have, that will go a long way. I'll certainly post tagged pictures of myself as well (of the spot test region I've had done now, and my full head once completed)

Additionally, jt1212 says that he had the work done by the leading firm out of the UK. That can only be HIS. Then he says that the color applied faded to blueish green after a few days. HIS provides a written guarantee that their inks will not fade, or change color for 6 months. I myself have had a spot test done to see how the SMP would look (done on my leg so that I could see it and be comfortable with it prior to application on my head), and that spot test looks exactly the same today as it did the day it was first done. The color is black, and the spots are tiny.

For all the people posting on here about how SMP is unethical, lazy, etc...not one has provided any reasoning behind those statements. As I've said before...the making money aspect is meaningless. All cosmetic procedures are done to make money (although the firm I've had my SMP done at also does pro bono work). The only thing that matters, is if the procedure looks good, and makes the person who has it feel better about themself. Thats the only way to truly evaluate any cosmetic procedure.

Who cares how old the person doing the procedure is? If you needed a heart transplant, and the leading cardiac surgeon was 23 while most others in the field were in their 50s, would you choose a lesser practitioner because they were older? Thats just foolish. You choose the person who is best in their field, and who makes you feel most confident that the outcome will be as desired.

RichardDawkins
07-15-2011, 09:49 AM
You simply dont get the point. Next

damnhair
07-15-2011, 11:03 AM
You simply dont get the point. Next

What point dont I get? If you could explain your position maybe I would "get it" more. As it stands, I'm just responding to what's posted.

1. People said the ink faded...I explained that written guarantees are provided by the major companies to protect against this.

2. People have said that the spots are too large..I have said that it is a factor of the practitioners skill, and that many will do a "patch test" to show you the size of the dots before their application to your head.

3. People say the companies offering this are just in it for the $..I say so is every other company doing cosmetic procedures.

4. People say it just looks good on the websites, but I've met Ian from HIS clinics IN PERSON, and have had a patch test done at another clinic, where I saw other people who have had it done IN PERSON. I have both met people first hand and had a small bit of SMP done on myself. At this point I think I am at least as well versed in the process as anyone else who has posted here.

If you cannot explain why you think SMP is such a bad, lazy, unethical, etc., procedure but continue to claim it as such, than I would say that you are either 1. Not familiar enough with the procedure to be making claims about it, or 2. Somehow profiting from the misinformation posted about the procedure.

southeast_eu
07-15-2011, 07:15 PM
What point dont I get? If you could explain your position maybe I would "get it" more. As it stands, I'm just responding to what's posted.

1. People said the ink faded...I explained that written guarantees are provided by the major companies to protect against this.

2. People have said that the spots are too large..I have said that it is a factor of the practitioners skill, and that many will do a "patch test" to show you the size of the dots before their application to your head.

3. People say the companies offering this are just in it for the $..I say so is every other company doing cosmetic procedures.

4. People say it just looks good on the websites, but I've met Ian from HIS clinics IN PERSON, and have had a patch test done at another clinic, where I saw other people who have had it done IN PERSON. I have both met people first hand and had a small bit of SMP done on myself. At this point I think I am at least as well versed in the process as anyone else who has posted here.

If you cannot explain why you think SMP is such a bad, lazy, unethical, etc., procedure but continue to claim it as such, than I would say that you are either 1. Not familiar enough with the procedure to be making claims about it, or 2. Somehow profiting from the misinformation posted about the procedure.

ok..sorry for my english damnhair...trust me dont go yet for mht...
i saw Aldemar , Zang, IAN and his head looks GREEN BLUE i been with a really professionist tattooink friend he said to me :i know you want this to work but dots are too large ,fake, they dont have the experience , he told me they use semipermanent ink in this way you gonna have to go years later for touch-up thats why Ian head looks so unnaturall he had done many ..i saw another guy AL which was a costumer now is doing the treatment for you how sound if i had done tomorow a HT few days latter to be your ht doctor and him doesnt look ok he has 40 years old and his shaved head doesnt suit him and of course ppl will tell you why you dont grow your hair coz you dont really look so nice with shaved head lol and wont be nice to see in one day on tv the MHT advert near to your friends ...
First time when i had the consultation i met there a guy who had done in May and he doesnt feel so good with the treatment he told me his looking for a laser tattoo remove
he feel the treatment looks to dark , unnatural , dots are to big but acceptable now who knows after few touch-up or the sun, skin , feel allways worried what ppl will think about this if they youll noticed in one day ..
i did learn my lesson with this experience in the end im going to accept my baldness this was my second : first one i been in a consultation with a very good ht doctor in uk i left without even have a sit coz he had another young guy 22 old before and decided to take him money GOD 22 years old..yes his true is all about the money ..
they charge you when you had the test ? i am sure yes..expensive of course, why? 10 min for 100 pounds !! thats ok for you to pay for a tattoo concept 600 pounds per hour someone who doesnt know nothing about ART OF TATTOO? or 3000 pounds for all this kind of risk ..
ive lived in all my live around many dangerous ppl i know what they can do just to take your many here there is no difference ..
and this is all only our fault there is nothing wrong with a bald man..Take care!!

damnhair
07-16-2011, 06:16 AM
I apprerciate your perspective southeast_eu, but my experience seems to have been a bit different than yours. As I said, I've already had the spot test done, and the dots ARE NOT too large. As far as the color change to blue/green...I know of more than 1 company that provides a written guarantee that this will not happen. HIS clinic is one of them.

I realize that most SMP clinics use semipermanent inks which fade in 3-5 years, but to me that is actually an advantage. If there is a scientific breakthrough 5 years from now I will be in a situation where I had 5 years of benefit from the SMP, and am back where I started (after it has faded), to consider whatever new treatments are available (without ever scaring my head with a HT, or risking my health with prescription meds). If no better options are available, I can decide at that time to let my hair progress naturally, or touchup the SMP (which they will probably be able to do even more naturally by then).

Ians head does not look as good as their current clients, because his head has basically been used as the testing ground for all the different inks and needles that they've tried over the years. The dots on his head are therefore in different sizes, and have slight color differences. His wife (who did the procedure on him) explained that to me when I met them. Since Ian had his done, they have advanced their practice quite a bit, but I still feel as though his head looks quite good as it is.

Still...I did not go to HIS clinics to have my patch test done. I went to a practitioner that had offices closer to me. They DID NOT charge me for the patch test or initial consultation.

I dont think SMP is a good solution for people with light hair, or people who look bad with shaved hair styles, but if you have dark hair, and look good with your hair shaved with clippers, then I think SMP can be a good solution.

southeast_eu
07-16-2011, 08:22 AM
I apprerciate your perspective southeast_eu, but my experience seems to have been a bit different than yours. As I said, I've already had the spot test done, and the dots ARE NOT too large. As far as the color change to blue/green...I know of more than 1 company that provides a written guarantee that this will not happen. HIS clinic is one of them.

I realize that most SMP clinics use semipermanent inks which fade in 3-5 years, but to me that is actually an advantage. If there is a scientific breakthrough 5 years from now I will be in a situation where I had 5 years of benefit from the SMP, and am back where I started (after it has faded), to consider whatever new treatments are available (without ever scaring my head with a HT, or risking my health with prescription meds). If no better options are available, I can decide at that time to let my hair progress naturally, or touchup the SMP (which they will probably be able to do even more naturally by then).

Ians head does not look as good as their current clients, because his head has basically been used as the testing ground for all the different inks and needles that they've tried over the years. The dots on his head are therefore in different sizes, and have slight color differences. His wife (who did the procedure on him) explained that to me when I met them. Since Ian had his done, they have advanced their practice quite a bit, but I still feel as though his head looks quite good as it is.

Still...I did not go to HIS clinics to have my patch test done. I went to a practitioner that had offices closer to me. They DID NOT charge me for the patch test or initial consultation.

I dont think SMP is a good solution for people with light hair, or people who look bad with shaved hair styles, but if you have dark hair, and look good with your hair shaved with clippers, then I think SMP can be a good solution.

1.their guarantee is just for one year ..
2.i you think iis a god ideea if the treatment fade in time dont be sure about that DOTS wont fade completly (thats the problem they will become lighter ) then you need touch-up again and again,can you explain yourself how the guy will working on the same dots to create the same size of your ,,hair,, how the colour will blend again (imagine your fade color on your head and touch-up with your naturall color is sound like a mix? )
3.if doesnt matter the money for you have the remove service for the test you have done on your legs to see how the skin react and if that is possible leaving your skin without scars it will be a option if you are not happy with your treatment (yes i know a guy did the removal but it was after first session and very soon after he had done mht )
can be an acceptable option if you feel there is way back to your clean head without big risk (only few treatment and cost)
4.dont trust ppl..
good luck!!

damnhair
07-16-2011, 11:25 AM
1. - I understand that the guarantees given for color fading arent forever, but as we've already discussed...these inks aren't made to last forever like normal tattoos. The inks used in permanent cosmetics (whether for SMP, permanent lipstick, eyeliner, etc) are made to fade out in 3-5 years. If you are good about staying out of the sun, and the pigments used are very dark browns or black they may last a bit longer, and if you are in the sun more or the colors are lighter, they may fade quicker. I dont see it being an issue to only have a 1 year guarantee, when the ink is made to fade out in 3-5 years anyway. I understand that the dots may not fade COMPLETELY in 5 years, but they will be almost gone by then. Thats just how the inks are made to break down. I dont see any issue with going back for touchups every 3 years if I am pleased with how it looks. The money those touch ups will cost most likely wont compare to what people spend on concealers, hair growth prescriptions, etc.

2. - As far as difficulty blending in the touch ups to match the original color...I dont see that being an issue either. The inks dont change colors..they just get lighter. Dark brown will fade to a lighter brown. I dont see why it would be difficult to touchup light brown to make it look like dark brown again. Myself, I have black hair. Regardless of what color the ink faded to, it wouldn't be an issue to touch it up and turn it black again. It's not very difficult to make black match black lol.

3. -I certainly wouldn't pay to remove the dots on my leg. Theyre absolutely invisible now, and I wouldnt risk scaring my leg (or spending $ without cause). If I get SMP and am unhappy with it, I'll just grow my hair longer again and style it in a way to conceal the SMP dots until they've faded out. I'm not bald now...I'll only be getting SMP to fix my receding hairline. If I'm pleased with the SMP, i'll keep a shaved head style and be happy to finally not have to think about concealers and creative styling every morning to make my hairline look good. If I'm unhappy with it, I'll basically be right back to where I started...concealing the corners of my hairline with topical concealers and styling until it fades out.

If SMP is able to disguise my receding hairline and make me comfortable with it again AND do so through a method that doesnt require surgery and medications, it will be well worth the cost. The fact that it will always basically look the same (no more need for styling products) and allow me to swim anytime I want without concern is just the icing on the cake.

I'm not expecting any miracles, but if it can do for me what it has done for the few people I've met who have had it, it wouldn't be an overstatement to say it will have changed my life.

VictimOfDHT
07-16-2011, 12:45 PM
I didn't read the whole thing, but if those head "tattoos" only last a few years then what's the point of having them?

damnhair
07-16-2011, 07:40 PM
I didn't read the whole thing, but if those head "tattoos" only last a few years then what's the point of having them?

Well not every clinic offering SMP uses the same inks. I'm sure some use inks that are more permanent than others (or even permanent period). The ones that use inks made especially for micropigmentation (permanent makeup), are most likely to last 3-5 years and then fade out.

The point, is to have a relatively permanent solution that 1.- doesnt require any daily attention like topical concealers, hair pieces, or comb overs, 2.- doesnt require you to take any medications with potentially harmful side effects, and 3.- doesnt require you to have surgery and risk any complications related to that.

The only maintenance required (which is more of a suggestion to help it look more natural), is that you keep the rest of your hair shaved low to blend with the SMP.

I guess the point is pretty much the same as a normal temporary tattoo...to give you the appearance you're looking for without the commitment of it being forever.

rassoul
07-17-2011, 02:08 PM
Saw some pics (non professional ones) on the net and it looks like shit :D

trapps91
08-22-2011, 04:04 PM
I have seen scarred people with skin disorders to get micropigmentation done and it looks alot better than the scar,,,
Holy shit guys.....is it ethical for a doctoe to leave a 20 inch scar on the back of yur head??
ethical for a HT doctor to place hairlines too low and no future donor?/
I have seen REDICULOUS tranplants, and REDICULOUS hair systems.....but your all ok with those right??
You tell me how rediculoous it is to have a huge scar on your head with grey hair....are you telling me THAT looks ok instead of micro dots??
Dont worry people...these are probably the same people that disourage guys who work out as well.....
Delphi...could you at least tell us your reasons or credentials for having these views??? Have you had it done before and had bad results???/
I remember when FUE was coming out and EVERYONE was bashing it and couldnt believe it could be possible,,,,,,
i Do believe Artistry concepts and goodlook ink are VERY shady.....they will overcharge you becasue there arent many that offer this service....Good look ink for 5 hours work will chard over 4 thousand dollars...

JonB.
08-22-2011, 05:09 PM
I have great confidence in HIS hair service and I will be having this service done this fall as they open their NY clinic. I will make myself available to those in the tri state area who want to meet for a cup of coffee after I have the service done because thats what one of the clients did for me about 4 months ago?

I liked what I saw. I thought the HIS service was totally realistic...otherwise I wouldn't bother with it.

I think this is a nice clean crisp look.

I could probably go another 10 years with couvre and toppik. Takes me all of 2 minutes to put it on and blow dry my hair with Gel. Nobody can tell I'm loosing my hair with these products in my hair. At 52 ...I just want a new look and I'm tired of using toppik and couvre..

Like I said...in a few months...after I have the HIS service in the Clinic opening up in New York City.... I'll be more than happy to meet up with anyone at a starbucks or any coffee shop...to shoot the breeze and let them check out the excellent results.

I still think hair transplant surgery is great for those who don't have to go multiple times.. I met with three highly regarded HT surgeons...and they suggested multiple transplant surgery's.....they wanted me to go on propecia and I'm not a fan of that drug. It masks the PSA test for prostrate cancer and thats the cancer that metastized (SP) into bone cancer for my dad..

I also didn't want the recovery time...of a hair transplant....and when the highly respected surgeons recommended here suggested multiple surgerys to get the job done to their satisfaction.. I'm not going that route..

I'll do the HIS service...2 or 3 hours the first time....then 3 or 4 days later..another hour and a half...and if need be a third session.. for one hour and I'm done..

I'm good to go.. (I'm not a model, I'm not an actor so I don't have to have flowing locks of hair and I really do think this HIS service will give me a nice crisp look)

JMO and best wishes to all you guys. You were all very helpful in my quest...(even if I'm going a new route)

JB

jt1212
08-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Damnhair you've got all of 12 posts to your name whether a persons got 1000 posts or 1 it doesn't matter its all about opinion what I want to know is are you on some sort of percentage from this clinic you sound like a representative of theirs I can't say too much as my case is still ongoing thats why I haven't replied to your post but I have had this procedure done many times this year in birmingham and london I totally agree with delphi and a few of the other guys people are trying to help you in making a decision at the end of the day its upto you only you can choose I had a patch test aswell beforehand and to be honest a small patch test is nothing compared to the procedure as for the guarantee it means nothing people in the hair transplant business will tell you what you want to hear we all know that its all about money pure and simple you can count the genuine clinics on one hand as soon as a client complains they don't want to know sound familiar to people they can't take your money quick enough when you complain all you get is unanswered calls and emails hopefully this clinic is different because I have no problem with their professionalism just the procedure.I'm not saying smp is unethical or lazy its upto the individual to make their own decision I'm just telling you my situation I thought this was the answer to my dreams a crew cut look wasn't really what I wanted but for the look of a full head of hair for the first time in years I decided to go for it what could go wrong its a tattoo giving the illusion of real hair I have to tell you I was slightly worried at the consultation when someone said don't get your hopes up too high I thought hang on this is a tattoo not a hair transplant I do agree with you about age it shouldn't matter how old you are but experience is very important I've had three different people doing my procedure which isn't ideal and two of the three are former clients this procedure is supposed to take take years of training to perfect I just wonder how much training has been given you know more and more clients not enough practioners train them up quickly I'm due to sort my case out in the next month or so but at the end of the day I'm a genuine person giving a genuine opinion on my procedure you might get 100 people telling you how brilliant it is you haven't had the procedure yet a lot of people have and aren't happy don't believe the stuff about no ones ever complained in eight years the guy who did one of my procedures told me how unhappy some clients are its just dealt with and swept under the carpet as for people not being familiar enough about the procedure I think thats you talk more once you've had it done not before I was like you before I had this done the inks do run and it fades out very very quickly(I guess you don't want to be in there every two or three weeks for repeat procedures)whats the point I stand by what I said I think its suited better to dark afro caribbean type people it does go very very dark when you first have it I was constantly asking them to lighten it if this clinic had done what they claim and a really good job I would have been the first to say how good they were the mistake wasn't mine it was the clinics I believed they could do what they said they could do it just didn't turn out that way how many times do you need to keep going back before saying enough is enough good luck with your procedure if you go ahead I hope it works for you.

trapps91
08-24-2011, 03:14 PM
thats one long sentence dude...
On some other forum Dr ron shapiro had some great comments...he said basically yo approach with caution, some tattooing might work for some and not others...which is what an intelliogent, realistic person would say about any procedure...risks are always involved...im SURE people that have had transplants totally regret it to this day and whis they just shaved the melon

trapps91
08-24-2011, 03:17 PM
amd i totally agree..i think Goodlook ink and artistry concepts ..there is something drastically wrong with these places...you can smell the reptile scent when you talk with them....and again that makes you thnk they only want certain people for clients....so im assuming its the desprate pussies who will do anything and wont complain afterwoards...

ripper
09-14-2011, 07:26 AM
can anyone explain the ridiculous costs associated with this. i have been around the tattoo industry for many years. I've had several tatts performed over the years by some of the words best artists. on average even the most talented guys charge about 200.00/hr and that is the high end. it looks like the total time involved is about 4hrs of tattooing. could someone please explain why this proceedure is over 4000.00??

RichardDawkins
09-15-2011, 03:52 PM
Damn good question :-)

the answer is simple "no one would offer it if the would charge a normal rate"

southeast_eu
09-15-2011, 05:08 PM
fake..fake..TATTOO ...I AM BALD 28 YEARS OLD , EVEN ME I WONT NEVER ACCEPT A TATTOO ON MY HEAD AS A CURE OF BALDNESS ,MAYBE ALL OF THEM CAN BE HAPPY WITH HOW THEY WILL LOOK IN A MIRROR FROM DISTANCE BUT IS DOES LOOK BAD HOW Y CAN TELL SOMEONE WHAT THE F..K HAVE DONE YOUR HEAD ..
MOST OF THEM THEY LIVING IN A GRAVE...
WHERE IS YOUR DEGNITY AND RESPONSABILTY...
MAN LOSE THEIR HAIR , GOING TO SHAVED ITS THE ONLY NICE SOLUTION IN THIS DAYS..
GOOD LUCK!!

JonB.
09-21-2011, 08:56 AM
Actually the specialized nature of the HIS MHT service has several visits to complete the 3 dimensional look of this short crisp clean hair style.

I'm planning on having this done in the the HIS New York Clinic in the beginning of October.

There are several visits to complete the process...either two or three sessions...and I feel comfortable with the business ethics and the costs and most importantly the looks.

I'll check back in a few weeks.. and update you guys. ...

I do appreciate the information and suggestions over the years I've been a member here...I've met with several of the hair transplant doctors recommended here on this site and they were all gentleman..

I just decided to go a different route. I just did not feel comfortable with the longer recurperation time...nor the fact that propecia was recommended after the surgery.

My Dad pasted away 20 odd years ago from prostrate cancer that metasized (SP) to his bones.. so I really prefer to have appropriate results from the PSA test..

Propecia does alter the ability to utilize the PSA test results....

Like I said...I'll fill you guys in on the end results..and I really do believe that HIS can work closely with hair transplant clients to get the best results..

For me its a way....and the path I'm taking for my hair loss situation.... but for those who have hair transplants and want a greater density look...I believe the HIS service combined with the hair transplant can offer a nice combination...

I'm just doing the short clean crisp look..no hair transplant until cloning becomes readily available....

Piscium
09-28-2011, 08:34 AM
Here’s my two cents on this one:

I came across HIS MHT Scalp Pigmentation on the web recently and was instantly fascinated. I thought it was as brilliant as it was ridiculous.

In answer to the person who asked about the disproportionately high costs of this treatment, the explanation is simple: desperate men will pay a high price to regain the appearance of hair, however short!

So here’s my new hair restoration idea: I call it the Scalp Micro Transfer System™ (Patent Pending). It’s basically a sheet transfer that you wet and apply to your shaven head. As the sheet dries, a semi-permanent transfer is applied to your head of a short cropped hairstyle. Available in 6 colours, in packs of 12 sheets for, let’s say, $97, no, $47, no, $197.

Also available is my new Scalp Micro Stencil range. A laser cut stencil made from surgical-grade latex that you apply to your head and paint over with a specially formulated, uh, stem cell ink. Peel off and presto, a natural looking head of cropped hair.

I’ll admit that the galleries and the sales copy on the HIS site are compelling, but I would want to meet 6 people in person who have had this procedure done before I signed up. It’s a permanent treatment, and as with anything permanent, proceed with extreme caution.

JonB.
09-28-2011, 12:42 PM
Well...I'm getting it done monday! and the second treatment on the following friday. The cost is totally reasonable...and if it looks as good as the two guys who I've met in person that had it done ...I'll be pleased.

I hope this helps others who are in the same boat as me.....and considering this path..

Wish me luck!

JB

charity
10-11-2011, 09:44 AM
so Jon B, where's your results? happy?

RichardDawkins
10-11-2011, 10:07 AM
Ha i guess not :-) or he was just a shill to prising this awesome technology. Seriously what a huge load of BS the more we come closer to a solution the more stupid stunts are offered

JonB.
10-11-2011, 04:37 PM
Guys! I love this new look. Its seamless. I've had it for a week and all I get are complements.

Of course you have to like the clean crisp look this service offers but thats a personal choice. I totally respect the guys who have gone for hair transplants and this is in no way a slam on that avenue.

I have kept a dairy with photos on this link. (if its not allowed then moderators please accept my apologies and just remove the link)

http://forum.*************.com/topic/ready-set-go-oct-3rd-in-the-nyc-clinicis-my-first-treatment

I love this new look so for me this was a great choice. Each person needs to decide whats best for themselves.

Again..thank you to all the members that guided me on this site when i was considering the hair transplants as well as the fine Hair transplant doctors who were complete gentleman and offered me free consultations.

JB

JonB.
10-11-2011, 04:46 PM
I'm sorry the links not working as I imagine supporting vendors of this site would not feel its correct..and I can totally respect that.

My blog is five pages long with all my insights along with photos.. Before and after photos as well as well as photos after the first session and after the second..

I was a norwood five with the horseshoe and a two finger band over the top that I grew real long to cover the crown. I had profusely thinning hair in the front with barely any hair remaining. I used a routine of courvre as a foundation after showering and then heavy gel to hold my hair in place once dried..then topped with toppik to take the shine away each time I washed my hair. The photo of me before the product shows the extent of the baldness as I described and then the photos of the after show the clean crisp hair style offered by going with the MHT service.

If you google HIS hair tattoo clinic forum then you will see my thread entitled" oct 3rd ready set go thread.. "

I personally believe that for those who get hair transplants and don't get all the density they might find this something to assist them.

I'm not a doctor though nor a representative of either faction so its just a personal idea to assist in each of us getting the look we desire.

For me..(other than catching the flu a few days ago) I found this to be a great look and a great path to take.

Check out the other forum. Join if you like to discuss any questions etc..or come back here and be free to comment.

The only thing I might ask is that you consider and respect that I just am an individual who chose this path and I am sharing information with you so comment how you like or dislike the look as if we were standing next to eachother in person.

If any of you guys are in the tri state area and ever wanted to meet at some coffee shop for a cup of coffee to shoot the breeze. As a member of this site I would be glad to do so.

I actually started to google this idea based off of a gentleman who dreamt up this idea ON THIS GREAT SITE HERE and he used a mascara pen with photos to speak of this idea. I then found who I believe to be the most reputable firm that does this with the best reputation for meeting and exceding client expectations.

Let me stop and allow those interested in exploring this path to just check out my blog on the entire exciting and what I consider excellent process.

I look forward to any respectful comments and questions that come my way either on this forum or at the link of the forum I mentioned to google should you be so inclined.

JonB.
10-14-2011, 10:37 AM
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss213/JBsC6/IMAG0125-1.jpg

JonB.
10-14-2011, 10:45 AM
Just in case you guys are wondering the look is very nice for a 52 year old and I have I think a few photos on the HIS hair clinic tattoo google search link that I suggested to google if you are interested to show also show this look in a sports jacket etc that its a nice look for any young professional who is having some Male pattern baldness issues ..

This is just an option that I chose and again...hair transplants may also be an excellent choice for those who prefer that route.

futbol9
10-14-2011, 08:34 PM
JonB you cant see anything on that picture is that before or after the procedure? it will be good if you can post before and after pics. good clear pics. thanks

JonB.
10-14-2011, 08:52 PM
the picture came in Huge..sorry about that..

If you can't see anything from that photo and want to see more photos that might help you out more...and if you want to hear more about my impressions....I'd rather suggest you head over to HIS Hair clinic forum website...''

It really good looks great and I'm very happy with their service.

Its not flowing hair locks of a hair transplant but its a nice look that is crisp and clean.

ProlongedTelogenCycle
12-27-2011, 10:28 PM
In my research, I see that one of the risks is the fading and bluish tint.

What happens when/if that occurs?

I have no tattoos, so I am don't know if it is possible to tattoo over a blue to make it back to a black or grey tint.

I think this would be a good option for diffuse patterned guys, but I am not sure where is this best place to go to have this done.

JonB.
12-28-2011, 07:53 AM
I didn't have any bluish tint and any fading would be a non issue as I could easily go in for a touch up at anytime.

My suggestion and its really just a personal choice is to really consider HIS as the company to go to...

Their desire to meet and exceed clients expectations would be the preferred path to take.

The reason the HIS is a multistaged process is to properly meet the clients expectations...

its not a wham bam thank you mam operation....

Some guys find it hard to understand the value of a multistaged process because its more costly for the provider yet it really is a key factor in achieving the very realistic look...

So far the history on lack of fading or turning blue of this new HIS technology is 10 years..

Most of the rumors of that stuff is from competitors in or out of this particular field...

It really boils down to whether a person wants the hair style that says....I have hair and I've chosen to shave it down.

If you want long flowing locks of hair or any real length of hair...a qualified hair transplant suregon from this site would be a better way to go..

Originally before I did this HIS service...I said to myself...down the road....eventually the expert doctors etc will find a manner in which to clone hair so at that point....maybe I'll just have cloned hair on my head but till then...the HIS look wold be the way to go..

Now..I'm so pleased with the HIS MHT look...I'd probably just stick with what I have now...

Hope this helps..

JB

JonB.
12-28-2011, 07:58 AM
Please accept my apologies.. I hadn't realized this was a new hair institute thread....

I was just giving personal experience with the company I did the research on and felt comfortable with..

Good luck

JB.

Cowboy
01-22-2012, 03:46 PM
I find it funny that there are folks on here that are so dramatically opposed to the thought of scalp pigmentation/MHT or whatever you want to call it.

They've even gone as far as to say it's unethical.

Funny that they think slicing out a piece of flesh from the back of your head, leaving big jack-o-latern smiling scar from ear-to-ear, and having the risk of losing native hair due to shockloss is such a far better option.

Further, the funniest bit is the consternation about the possibility of having to go back for refreshening or retreatments.

Hmmm, that neeeeeeeeeeever happens with people that get traditional hair transplants, right? Lol, please. There are guys on here that have had two, three and sometimes four hair transplants at a far greater cost than MHT.

And before someone starts in with some "you're just an MHT hack," no, I've never had the MHT done. I've only researched the procedure just as I've researched FUE or FUT treatments.

There is a ton of misinformed nonsense being spewed by folks that simply have a negative kneejerk reaction to something new. Research the procedure yourself, get a consultation, meet with former patients, fire away your questions.

krauss
01-31-2012, 10:07 AM
Found this You Tube Video:

RCNV5J83F7Y
This poor guy's head was done by Rassman at NHI. Rassman was taught by HIS Hair Clinic. Looks like ##@* to me, solid and blue.

JonB.
01-31-2012, 10:32 AM
Found this You Tube Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCNV5J83F7Y&feature=related

This poor guy's head was done by Rassman at NHI. Rassman was taught by HIS Hair Clinic. Looks like ##@* to me, solid and blue.

THATS NOT HIS MHT WORK.

Guys if you want a short hair look that HIS offers than go to HIS ...Don't listen to other people from other firms or people who have never had the HIS treatment.

The danger is people going to hacks like the guy who did the video patient.

I don't really care one way or the other but misinformation is unacceptable.

I watched the video and it was ridiculous to even mention HIS in the same post as you have done.

Krauss, You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a ridiculous connection and one that is deragatory.(SP)

Delphi
01-31-2012, 10:41 AM
THATS NOT HIS MHT WORK.

Guys if you want a short hair look that HIS offers than go to HIS ...Don't listen to other people from other firms or people who have never had the HIS treatment.

The danger is people going to hacks like the guy who did the video patient.

I don't really care one way or the other but misinformation is unacceptable.

I watched the video and it was ridiculous to even mention HIS in the same post as you have done.

Krauss, You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a ridiculous connection and one that is deragatory.(SP)

JonB is just a shill for "HIS"! How many times can you pimp "HIS" in in a single post? We should turn this into a drinking game!:)
You have to be a fool to have your head tattooed!

Cowboy
01-31-2012, 12:09 PM
JonB is just a shill for "HIS"! How many times can you pimp "HIS" in in a single post? We should turn this into a drinking game!:)
You have to be a fool to have your head tattooed!

You have to be a complete nitwit to keep spouting off misinformation in blind ignorance.

If you keep attributing poor work or false claims against one company, of course the name of that specific company is going to come up.

You keep trying to generalize and lump HIS clinic with Rassmasan or other transplant clinics that have tried to get into the pigmentation business. Rassmasan doesn't even use the same inks and techniques that His Clinics do. Rasmassan utilizes a straight-up tattoo grade ink which is completely misguided on his part. His folly doesn't make the procedure of scalp pigmentation a poor option in the hands of experts in this specified field. It simply means: Don't go to Rasmassan if you want this type of procedure done.

That's basic sound reasoning.

It would just as inane as if someone posted a YouTube video or pictures of someone who got hacked up by a poor hair transplant. Should the takeaway from that be that nobody should ever consider getting a hair transplant?

Cowboy
01-31-2012, 12:21 PM
Found this You Tube Video:
This poor guy's head was done by Rassman at NHI. Rassman was taught by HIS Hair Clinic. Looks like ##@* to me, solid and blue.


Please detail the following:

1) How do you know this patient had a procedure done at NHI?

2) After confirming point #1, please inform us which procedure he had done: the hair transplant or the scalp pigmentation?

3) Please confirm how you know Dr. Rasmassan was trained at HIS Clinic? (*His Clinic are not big fans of Dr. Rasmassan...)

JonB.
01-31-2012, 12:35 PM
JonB is just a shill for "HIS"! How many times can you pimp "HIS" in in a single post? We should turn this into a drinking game!:)
You have to be a fool to have your head tattooed!

I'm not a shill. If you want to know about a service I had then thats what you get.

I happen to get an email message on every post from this thread since I posted to it and when I read total nonsense I come back to make sure guys who are looking for real alternatives don't get steered wrong by know nothings like yourself.

The HIS service rocks!

For those that prefer long flowing hair...Hair transplants from qualified and reputable surgeons make sense.

Do research, decide which look you prefer and best of luck.

JB

Delphi
01-31-2012, 12:35 PM
Please detail the following:

1) How do you know this patient had a procedure done at NHI?

2) After confirming point #1, please inform us which procedure he had done: the hair transplant or the scalp pigmentation?

3) Please confirm how you know Dr. Rasmassan was trained at HIS Clinic? (*His Clinic are not big fans of Dr. Rasmassan...)

Looks like we've got another shill for "HIS" :) Don't these spammers ever learn?

Cowboy
01-31-2012, 01:55 PM
Looks like we've got another shill for "HIS" :) Don't these spammers ever learn?

Lol, yup, I was right with my initial assesment of you. You're a nitwit.

"...izzz a headz tatoooz guyz! Theys just shillz for HIS!! donu't lissen to them..."

Delphi
02-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Lol, yup, I was right with my initial assesment of you. You're a nitwit.

"...izzz a headz tatoooz guyz! Theys just shillz for HIS!! donu't lissen to them..."

Thanks for proving my point.

krauss
02-02-2012, 07:40 AM
Check out this link on the HIS website: http://www.*************.com/scalp-micropigmentation/

Quote from that link: "The reason why Dr Rassman is now offering scalp pigmentation as a solution for hair loss, is due to a recent visit paid by Dr Rassman to our Birmingham clinic in the UK, and Ian Watson and Ranbir Rai-Watson of HIS performing our MHT® technique at his Medical Center in Los Angeles."

They sound pretty chummy.

Apparently got a bad SMP and went to that dr. to get ht to fix it.

Delphi
02-03-2012, 09:05 AM
What the hell kind of doctor would stoop so low to do head tattoos? Rassman must be desperate for money. It’s unethical on so many levels!

Oyster
02-06-2012, 07:19 AM
should be a bad bad joke

gmonasco
02-06-2012, 01:53 PM
What the hell kind of doctor would stoop so low to do head tattoos? It’s unethical on so many levels!

Plenty of people get head tattoos. Why is it fine when a tattoo artist does the work but unethical when a doctor does it?

Freeman@last
02-08-2012, 12:51 PM
Been wearing a system for 15 years. Tired of being a slave to it and not being able to do all the things I wanted to do in life from fear of being discovered. Done my homework and decided what I saw at Good Look Ink looked the best.
Yes they are a new business and very small. Of course that makes anyone nervous but I was sick of wearing that stupid rat on my head even though everyone thought I had great hair. I went to them a mess. My head had really bad sores on the back from years of glue. They worked with me though and basically stayed away from those areas and I will have them covered when they heal and I go back for my enhancement. I was expecting a return visit anyway because i have tattoos and you always need to go back for a touch up. Even if I need some touch up years from now I believe and hope it will be worth it. I know right now even though I feel naked and having a hard time dealing with the buzzed look that I am loving not having to worry about my stupid hairpiece. I can be ready to go in 10 minutes now. I couldnt believe how I really didnt get many reactions or comments either way. I am in the military and getting ready to deploy so basically I had to do something and I didnt want to just shave it smooth again like before because I did get discovered then and was very embarrassed. It looks really good considering she had to skip those 2 spots. It is not as low as I wanted my hairline to be but they are really careful about not going to bold because you cant go back. I will probably have her lower it just a tad and fill in my temples a little more as well. The biggest maintenance is you have to keep it buzzed close every couple of days. Fortunately I have quite a bit of hair across the top of my head which helps camoflage and create the illusion. Not sure if this would be for peeps who are completely slick on top. I am 47 and since my genes were mixed with baldys and full head of hair guys I think I will probably always have quite a few hairs sprouting to keep the texture. Also I did have one very sparse HT in front so that helps too. I was really impressed with the owner of this company. He spent alot of personal time and attention with me because of our similar plights. We are both musicians who always kept this persona of alot of hair and style. He looked great and I believe his procedure was done in 2008. He also helped me by talking with me days later about everything I was going through with the transformation. There is a huge shock when you go from full head of hair to buzzed. I would love my hair back but it is not worth it. I hope I can adjust to this and my biggest fear was losing my wife's attraction. Fortunately she is not that shallow. I do hope one day there is something else like cloning but for now I have to rediscover myself and enjoy life without worrying about my hair flapping in the wind.
Hope this helps.

Freeman@last
02-08-2012, 01:11 PM
I have 4 regular tattoos that are over 20 years old and still look good and have not turned grey or blue and have had lots of sun exposure. Ink and pigments have come a long way. After dealing with these people on a real personal basis I was greatly reassured that they are not the type of individuals who would mark people up just for a quick buck. Alot does go into this procedure and I am sure they have alot of overhead to pay for and that is why it costs more than a regular tattoo. I have some pretty detailed tattoos and they took less time than she did just doing "dots". I got a really good feel from these people and I consider myself a good judge of character.

jholcollege11
03-14-2012, 06:28 AM
Hey Freeman, I am 30 and have been dealing with hair loss eight years. I shave my head and like the look but I need a more full look. Im trying to decide between Goodlook Inc, HIS, and Artistry Conceptions. Did you learn anything about the other two companies when you were at Goodlook, and how long do they say it will be before you need touchups. Thanks in advance

Freeman@last
03-15-2012, 08:34 AM
I went with GLI. They seemed the most personal and the others a bit shady. I was taken back a bit at first after I inquired about the procedure with several calls but after I committed and got to actually deal with the owner (who had a worse story than mine and had the procedure) I was convinced. It was hard to get used to at first and I do miss my hair but I feel so free now. My problem was from wearing the stupid hairpiece so long I had scarring in a couple of places that left 2 bald spots and they got infected from years of glue. They worked around those areas and they have finally healed up. So now I get to go back for my free touchup in April. I need it mainly in the areas where I had the HT in front and on my crown I dont think it took so well because it was like baby's skin and my whole perimeter is a bit lighter because of it. GLI actually tells me their procedure is not Micropigmentation because it goes deeper and is permenant. My procedure was $4400.
Hope this helps

jholcollege11
03-15-2012, 08:45 AM
Thanks Freeman. Yea I got a shady feel when I called one of the other two places also, and the guy over the phone did not seem very professional, courteous, or interested in helping me learn about their supposed one of a kind process. I talked to HIS and a british guy (operator) made me feel like customer # 2,888,777. I got a really good feel from the goodlook inc guy Alex, and they seem like an actual business as opposed to a tattoo parlor with microscopes and rulers. So did yours fade quickly on the front and the crown area, and if so was it because of the soft tissue damage of a hair transplant?

Freeman@last
03-15-2012, 09:04 AM
Yea, Alex is great. Just a young guy who needed it done and happened to be ready to start a new career and was able to move. If you can, talk to the owner. We really bonded because he lived an even worse nightmare and is a musician like me. For some reason I cannot think of his name right now. Darrin the president is a good guy to talk to as well. It is a small crew but they are very personal and proffesional. Yea, my perimeter didnt take ink I think as well as the top of my head probably due to the 15 years of wearing the system. I should have stopped wearing it for longer than I did but with my life it was really not possible. I do believe though now when I do my touch up I will be extremely happy. It is always the same even with regular tattoos which I have. You have to touch up areas later that didnt take or it is really hard to see micro dots when there is redness, swelling, etc. during the tatt process.

Freeman@last
03-15-2012, 09:08 AM
I highly recommend Leah as your artist. She is their top one.
Plus I am seriously thinking after I am done with this touch up, looking into opening a franchise locally when they become available.

jholcollege11
03-15-2012, 09:36 AM
Thanks, I will request her. That is one thing I was concerned about-the artist performing the procedure. I have some tats and after 11 years I notice small specks of fading so I see what you're saying. I know it is impractical to think this will last forever without fading, but i only hope that it will provide the illusion of hair for a while before fading occurs. I already shave my head so all i want for my bday is alot more black dots lol, bc i have some but wana fill in gaps. Thanks for the inside info it really helps! Are u planning on getting into that line of work if they expand?

Delphi
03-15-2012, 02:45 PM
Getting your head tattooed is such a bad idea. Even it it looks perfect when you have it done, it will not last. It’s much easier to retouch or fix and regular tattoo that has lost color or gets blurry, you will not be able to repair the damage once it is done. These people might be happy in the short term, but they will be very upset in the long run.

jholcollege11
03-15-2012, 03:14 PM
Hey Delphi, I appreciate your feedback. What are you basing your belief that this will damage scalp,off of? Do you know someone who has had it done and looks bad now or is this your opinion? Im curious to know b/c Im trying to educate myself as best as I can before I can make informed decision? Thanks in advance

Delphi
03-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Hey Delphi, I appreciate your feedback. What are you basing your belief that this will damage scalp,off of? Do you know someone who has had it done and looks bad now or is this your opinion? Im curious to know b/c Im trying to educate myself as best as I can before I can make informed decision? Thanks in advance

I base my opinion on the fact that I have several tattoos and understand how they react over time. They will in time blur and fade. Imagine when that begins to happen on your head. Do you think it will be easy to go back in and fix the blurred dots? It will end up being a big mess. It's not a good idea. I know there are several companies marketing this concept as an alternative to other hair loss treatments, but it makes no sense if you really think about it and understand tattoos.

jholcollege11
03-15-2012, 05:18 PM
All good points and things to consider. Thank you for the advice.

jholcollege11
03-17-2012, 08:10 PM
So Ive been searching and searching the internet trying to make a decision between Good Look Ink in Minnesota, and Artistry Concepts in Florida. I believe my best option is AC in Florida b/c their pics look amazing and I believe they are the leaders in this field at this time. The replicated follicles AC produces are so tiny that they look real. I find Good Look Ink to be very courteous and professional, but this may very well mean that they are just good salesmen who are only about money and don't care about results, idk. I do know that their pics on the GLI site do not look too good. It seems the replicated follicles are too large and bunched together too close. They almost look like freckles. I hear the two guys that do the procedure in Florida are very talented, but I still wish I had more info. If anyone knows anything about either of these companies, or has had this procedure done or knows someone who has, please comment, I'd really appreciate it. Please no more comments from people with no fact-based information as this does not help me. Having tattoos on your body does not in any way make you an expert in scalp micropigmentation. I have tattoos all over my arms so thanks anyway. Also no more shills please. Thanks guys!

jholcollege11
04-07-2012, 09:24 PM
Just wanted to update this particular thread. I did a complete 180 again since I posted that last one. After doing pleanty of online research as well as emails and phone convo's with different providers, I decided on a clinic and am having smp done on May 1st. I am not going with artistry concepts. They are honestly just too sketchy, or shady if you prefer. They seem to be hiding something, and they do not seem like very educated or professional people. If I want a fire breathing dragon or something like that on my back, I may call them, but when it comes to a cosmetic procedure, I HAVE to go with a place that treats clients and potential clients with courtesy and honesty, and one that does not bash all competitors. This type of bashing reveals the true character of a business, and if they are quick to treat their competition this way, I do not want to find out how little they think of the client (although my research has given me a foreshadowing as to what to expect if I went with AC). Good luck to all who decide to have Scalp Micropigmentation done, wherever you choose. From personal investigation though, I would stay far away from Artistry Concepts in Englewood, Florida.

JonB.
04-26-2012, 04:23 AM
Just wanted to update this particular thread. I did a complete 180 again since I posted that last one. After doing pleanty of online research as well as emails and phone convo's with different providers, I decided on a clinic and am having smp done on May 1st. I am not going with artistry concepts. They are honestly just too sketchy, or shady if you prefer. They seem to be hiding something, and they do not seem like very educated or professional people. If I want a fire breathing dragon or something like that on my back, I may call them, but when it comes to a cosmetic procedure, I HAVE to go with a place that treats clients and potential clients with courtesy and honesty, and one that does not bash all competitors. This type of bashing reveals the true character of a business, and if they are quick to treat their competition this way, I do not want to find out how little they think of the client (although my research has given me a foreshadowing as to what to expect if I went with AC). Good luck to all who decide to have Scalp Micropigmentation done, wherever you choose. From personal investigation though, I would stay far away from Artistry Concepts in Englewood, Florida.

Wow! Well best of luck who ever you decided to use. May 1st will be an exciting time.

I used HIS for MHT and it really improved the quality of my life. I wish you the best and enjoy!

JB

Horseshoe
04-26-2012, 02:50 PM
Just wanted to update this particular thread. I did a complete 180 again since I posted that last one. After doing pleanty of online research as well as emails and phone convo's with different providers, I decided on a clinic and am having smp done on May 1st. I am not going with artistry concepts. They are honestly just too sketchy, or shady if you prefer. They seem to be hiding something, and they do not seem like very educated or professional people. If I want a fire breathing dragon or something like that on my back, I may call them, but when it comes to a cosmetic procedure, I HAVE to go with a place that treats clients and potential clients with courtesy and honesty, and one that does not bash all competitors. This type of bashing reveals the true character of a business, and if they are quick to treat their competition this way, I do not want to find out how little they think of the client (although my research has given me a foreshadowing as to what to expect if I went with AC). Good luck to all who decide to have Scalp Micropigmentation done, wherever you choose. From personal investigation though, I would stay far away from Artistry Concepts in Englewood, Florida.


Can you let us know how the results of the procedure went and if you are happy with your new look? Also if you are pleased, will you recommend and name the business/location? Others may benefit from your experience.

krauss
03-15-2013, 08:52 AM
Well, since this moron was too busy bashing other companies, he made an enormous mistake. I guess he went to this place and got a real hatchet job. He fell for their used car sales pitch and fake promises, so they told him what he wanted to hear, not what he really needed to hear. Check out his complaint on the BBB site:

http://www.bbb.org/minnesota/business-reviews/hair-replacement/good-look-ink-in-edina-mn-96158792/complaints

There are two extensive complaints here. jholcollege 11 is the one posted on 12/28/12.

There is also a complaint on another forum about this rip off company.