IS Finasteride better than untested treatments

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  • doke
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1464

    IS Finasteride better than untested treatments

    Well on looking at this study on finasteride i think that this combined with topical minox is still the treatment to continue with at this time the study on over 2,000 japanese men seems its safe look at pubmed
  • Tracy C
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 3083

    #2
    The thing is that the safety profile of those untested treatments has not been adequately and appropriately established. Those guys who were terrified to take Finasteride and flocked to those untested treatments are likely in for a very unwelcome surprise.

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    • clandestine
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2002

      #3
      Why the fuᴄk are you posting this in Cutting Edge / Future Treatments?

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      • clandestine
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2002

        #4
        Originally posted by Tracy C
        The thing is that the safety profile of those untested treatments has not been adequately and appropriately established. Those guys who were terrified to take Finasteride and flocked to those untested treatments are likely in for a very unwelcome surprise.
        Citation needed.

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        • doke
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1464

          #5
          Go to pubmed ask for the japanese 1mg finasteride study and remember this was effective in over 2,000 men so we cannot dismiss it unless your a dope and this is still really a cutting edge treatment and does work in many i as said think you need to use minoxidil with it and keep using.

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          • doke
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1464

            #6
            I think just because you do not agree there is no need for angry outbusts or throwing your dummy out of the pram hahaha as you cannot disagree with the study as it was over three years on the 2,000 men with androgenetic alopecia.
            Now as for the ru and other untested on the many human trials we do not know what they may or maynot do as the drugs have not had approved safety tests over the long term even though i have myself used some i wonder what if they cause us problem we do not now until its too late so i have dropped them and returned to what has been safety tested.
            This post is not to have a go at anybody only to point out the truth out there before you make the mistake in wasting a lot of money on unproved untested treatments and to say its at your own risk to use these experimental drugs.
            So tracy you are right what you have said and say.

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              #7
              Originally posted by doke
              Go to pubmed ask for the japanese 1mg finasteride study and remember this was effective in over 2,000 men so we cannot dismiss it unless your a dope and this is still really a cutting edge treatment and does work in many i as said think you need to use minoxidil with it and keep using.
              Finasteride combined with minox is not a cutting edge treatment, sorry. As such, this really doesn't belong in this forum.

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              • doke
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1464

                #8
                I think its the only proven treatment up to this time is minox and propecia on a large number of men of over 2000 for a year or more use unless you now of a mpb treatment that has the safety and regrowth studies prove to work is all we have at this time which im not happy about but its as i see it after many years of trying different naturals and drugs all i have really done is line company snake oil sales.
                It been said that histogen was going to be a good new treatment but i have seen even that you may have to keep using minoxidil otherwise you will get massive hairloss as with mpb we have to use most things at this time for ever which is a pain and costly but until some gene therapy can cure mpb i think thats what we have to do.
                A transplant if we have enough hair may be good at this time with fue but its too expensive for many of us if we could have it on uk nhs i would have one straight away, even then do we still have to keep using minox with that as well?

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                • clandestine
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2002

                  #9
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                  • rdawg
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 996

                    #10
                    Well it's the safest as in it's actually been tested and such through the FDA.

                    but that doesnt make the other stuff unsafe, we just dont know if the other stuff will work.

                    Propecia and Minoxidil are actually solid products, they both at least to some extent, slow the loss(min may give some minor growth), propecia specifically can potentially save your hair if you start it early.

                    our problem is growth, nothing right now turns a NW3,4, 5 etc. into a NW1. I beleive something will soon, it's only a matter of time.

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                    • doke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1464

                      #11
                      Well why have they not come to market if they were the cure all we would be using it by now not after 20 years gone buy.

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2002

                        #12
                        Shh doke, no tears. Only dreams now.

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                        • BaldinLikeBaldwin
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 223

                          #13
                          you're really funny klandestined

                          ****in wasteman

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                          • clandestine
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 2002

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BaldinLikeBaldwin
                            you're really funny klandestined

                            ****in wasteman
                            lol

                            10char

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                            • Tracy C
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3083

                              #15
                              Originally posted by clandestine
                              Citation needed.
                              Um... That's the whole problem. You cannot provide a citation for a safety profile that has not yet been adequately and appropriately established. Such a citation cannot not exist until it has been adequately and appropriately established. Shoving your head in the sand about it does not automatically make it safer.



                              Originally posted by rdawg
                              but that doesnt make the other stuff unsafe, we just dont know if the other stuff will work.
                              Nor do we know if they are is safe - or how safe they are. It is completely possible for them to have a much worse safety profile than Finasteride - but we just don't know. The is no adequate data to show one way or the other. Everyone using it is taking huge risks.

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