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  • Picked1st4Kickball
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 4

    I Need A Hair Loss Veteran

    So, I just turned 20 and I've really been noticing how thin my hair is. It's thin to the point that you can see my scalp all over. It really bothers me. I have a NW1 hairline, hasn't really receded at all, but the hair is paper-thin all over. It's been like that since high-school, but I've never really paid attention to it, or cared until now. My question for the hair loss veterans is, HOW DO I THICKEN MY HAIR? I'd like to use natural products primarily. Obviously, through research I've read up on finasteride and I can confidently say... there is no way in hell I'm ever trying it. When you weigh the pros and cons, it just is not worth it, in my opinion. I'm going to give minoxydil a try, but is there anything additional that others in the early stages have found fruitful? I don't expect immediate results, I'm aware of the time it takes. Does anybody have any good suggestions backed up by results? Having thin hair sucks. Other than shaving it (which I recently did), there seems to be no way to make it look good. It's just too obvious. Lame
  • clandestine
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2005

    #2
    Sounds like you're a diffuse thinner. Finasteride is your best bet, yet has the potential for sexual sides. Minoxidil alone won't do much, you need something to arrest hair loss before considering regrowth.

    Perhaps, if unwilling to try fin, go with RU or a topical sitosterol-based DHT inhibitor.

    Cheers.

    edit: ps, 'naturals' won't get you far.

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    • Picked1st4Kickball
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 4

      #3
      Originally posted by clandestine
      Sounds like you're a diffuse thinner. Finasteride is your best bet, yet has the potential for sexual sides. Minoxidil alone won't do much, you need something to arrest hair loss before considering regrowth.

      Perhaps, if unwilling to try fin, go with RU or a topical sitosterol-based DHT inhibitor.

      Cheers.

      edit: ps, 'naturals' won't get you far.
      Hmmm, interesting. What is RU? I've heard of it before, but haven't researched it. Yeah, I've come to realize that naturals won't get me very far, considering I've tried a few

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      • Tracy C
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 3125

        #4
        Originally posted by Picked1st4Kickball
        My question for the hair loss veterans is, HOW DO I THICKEN MY HAIR? I'd like to use natural products primarily.
        There is no compelling evidence that any "natural" hair loss treatment actually does anyone any good.

        Neither Propecia (Finasteride) or Rogaine (Minoxidil) are appropriate for your specific hair loss situation. If you are diffuse thinner, you might want to think about giving the laser comb a try. The laser comb increases the caliber of the hair that you have. It increases the strength of the hair that you have. It improves the quality of the hair that you have. And it makes your hair grow faster. All these things combined are very helpful for a diffuse thinner.

        It would be a good idea for you to replace your shampoo and conditioner with sulfate free shampoo and conditioner. It would also be a good idea to use Nizoral A-D shampoo once or twice a week.

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        • MinorSixth
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 19

          #5
          Originally posted by Tracy C
          Neither Propecia (Finasteride) or Rogaine (Minoxidil) are appropriate for your specific hair loss situation.
          Huh? Doesn't both fin and rogaine work best for diffuse thinners?

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          • AGL
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 32

            #6
            I would think that fin would be a good option for diffuse thinner's.

            Natural doesn't always (not just in relation to hair) = good or safe, example botulism.

            I was shit scared and on the fence for over a year on using fin. After careful study, consulting with many people (doctor's included) I decided to give it a go, but at a low dose, half the recommended amount and have experienced no side effects. We are all different and one size fits all is my belief, so I tried a lower dosage. My sex drive has in fact increased and I have noted stronger hair.

            If you don't want to use any drug therapy, then I would recommend concealers like toppik. This won't solve the problem, but your hair will look thicker and you will buy yourself some time. There is so much on the horizon with respect to new therapies for hair loss, so maybe buying time would be a good alternative for you.

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            • dex89
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 809

              #7
              Originally posted by Tracy C
              There is no compelling evidence that any "natural" hair loss treatment actually does anyone any good.

              Neither Propecia (Finasteride) or Rogaine (Minoxidil) are appropriate for your specific hair loss situation. If you are diffuse thinner, you might want to think about giving the laser comb a try. The laser comb increases the caliber of the hair that you have. It increases the strength of the hair that you have. It improves the quality of the hair that you have. And it makes your hair grow faster. All these things combined are very helpful for a diffuse thinner.

              It would be a good idea for you to replace your shampoo and conditioner with sulfate free shampoo and conditioner. It would also be a good idea to use Nizoral A-D shampoo once or twice a week.
              which laser comb do you use Stacy?

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              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3125

                #8
                Originally posted by MinorSixth
                Huh? Doesn't both fin and rogaine work best for diffuse thinners?
                Both Rogaine (Minoxidil) and Propecia (Finasteride) are appropriate for those who have thinning in their vertex and/or mid-anterior areas. Both Rogaine and Propecia work best for those who have thinning in their vertex and/or mid-anterior areas. Neither are appropriate for those who do not have thinning in their vertex and/or mid-anterior areas. If he has general over all thinning, he needs to see a qualified doctor for advise. The doctor may recommend Rogaine and Finasteride if the doctor feels it would help him.

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3125

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dex89
                  which laser comb do you use Tracy?
                  My sister and I have and use the old original 9-laser Hairmax laser comb premium. This model is no longer available brand new and has been replaced by the 9-laser cordless "Lux-9" model. Our sister-in-law uses the battery operated 7-laser model. Our sister-in-law doesn't actually have FPB though, she uses it because she went through chemo for breast cancer. Though she did not lose all her hair, it did thin out a lot. She was able to thicken it up quite a bit user her laser comb. Now, six months later, you can't even tell her hair had thinned out.

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                  • dex89
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 809

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    My sister and I have and use the old original 9-laser Hairmax laser comb premium. This model is no longer available brand new and has been replaced by the 9-laser cordless "Lux-9" model. Our sister-in-law uses the battery operated 7-laser model. Our sister-in-law doesn't actually have FPB though, she uses it because she went through chemo for breast cancer. Though she did not lose all her hair, it did thin out a lot. She was able to thicken it up quite a bit user her laser comb. Now, six months later, you can't even tell her hair had thinned out.
                    Gosh, they're really expensive, this is out of my budget at the moment but thanks for the reply Stacy.

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dex89
                      Gosh, they're really expensive, this is out of my budget at the moment but thanks for the reply Tracy.
                      They are expensive. They cost a little less now than they did when my sister and I bought ours, but I do feel Lexington should come down more on the price. There are clones available, but the clones do not have FDA clearance and I do not know first hand if the clones work or not.

                      P.S. Notice that I corrected my name when I quoted you?..

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                      • stratofortress
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 124

                        #12
                        I believe propecia can work for diffuse thinning- I've seen examples of this.

                        Diffuse thinning being where the hair on top thins evenly and the 'horseshoe' area is unaffected.

                        This is a variant of MPB.

                        If it thins everywhere including the donor area there may be something else at play other than MPB.

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                        • dex89
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 809

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          They are expensive. They cost a little less now than they did when my sister and I bought ours, but I do feel Lexington should come down more on the price. There are clones available, but the clones do not have FDA clearance and I do not know first hand if the clones work or not.

                          P.S. Notice that I corrected my name when I quoted you?..
                          OHH wow, I apologize Tracy, It won't happen again.

                          I'll take a look at Lexington and check out the reviews. If anything, I'll just save up for the FDA approve laser comb. Thanks again Tracy.

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                          • Tracy C
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3125

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stratofortress
                            I believe propecia can work for diffuse thinning- I've seen examples of this.
                            I am not saying it won't. I am saying a doctor needs to make that recommendation. Diffuse thinning can be MPB, but it can also be something else that is not MPB. The two proven FDA approved medications are for those who have MPB. Without a defined pattern, you do not know if it is MPB or not. If you do not know for sure that it is MPB, neither Rogaine or Propecia are appropriate.

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                            • Tracy C
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3125

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dex89
                              OHH wow, I apologize Tracy, It won't happen again.
                              I forgive you. You are not the only one so I thank you for trying to get it right.

                              One of the members here mentioned an 8-laser clone called the "energy comb" that was a lot less expensive. I can't find it anymore through google but it did look like it should work at least as well as the 7-laser Hairmax.

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