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No need to be belittling.
I do believe the jury is still out on the full mode of action of this drug.
Some people take one dose, and they swear it has messed them up for life.
Others like Spencer have been taking it for years with no issues.
Some people find their baldness accelerated on this drug and some grow breasts.
Nobody really knows why results vary.
I will state a simple truth: My hair has stopped falling out on a dose of 2X 0.25mgs of Finasteride in one week. My hair stopped falling out on the days between the first (Thursday morning) and second (Sunday morning) dose. I may not be thickening, but I am maintaining.
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I'm not belittling you, I'm just stating a simple fact... That don't know what you are talking about with regards to the drug.
As another point. Have you ever considered the following (and I have NO idea exactly what is going on your life in this regard, but can guess quite accurately that you are fairly high stress and hair obsessed by details of your first post). We all know that stress can be a major factor in hairloss as well. There are many times in a persons life when extreme stress can cause hairloss in people with or without typical allopecia. College exams, sickness or death of a loved one, physical trauma, obsessive worrying. When you took that first .25mg pill you either consciously or unconsciously told yourself that.. "this will stop my hairloss", or something even simpler "now I'm dealing with this problem". As an immediate effect, this could immediately lower your stress levels and hence ameliorate your hair loss. I want to point out that this effect is very real, but has NOTHING to do with the actual taking of the drug. It's the placebo effect of taking medication, which is something I think you may have overlooked.
The other point is, that you are dealing with a whole hormonal system in your body which works in phases that are impossible to manifest in physical appearance so quickly. It's not just my opinion, it's medical science. If you do your research on this drug, you will understand exactly what I am saying. This drug doesn't instantly work like magic, which is what you seem to be describing.
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Originally Posted by skipstah70
I'll tell you that if you are showing any problems this early on and on such a small dose, that is not a good sign. My best advice, find out if this is real or in your head by taking a regular 1mg dose for two weeks to a month.. then you will know what you are really dealing with. You will be able to sort out much better what is "in your head" and what isn't because the changes will be that much more dramatic.
This is absolutely shocking advice. Do not take Propecia at all if you suffered sides on 0.25mg every few days. You were cautious and discovered it's not good for you, so back the heck away from it. Anything else would be sheer lunacy.
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Originally Posted by chrisis
This is absolutely shocking advice. Do not take Propecia at all if you suffered sides on 0.25mg every few days. You were cautious and discovered it's not good for you, so back the heck away from it. Anything else would be sheer lunacy.
Oh, I know.. What SHOCKING advice... that I tell him to STFU and take the prescribed dosage for a short period to EVALUATE ACCURATELY ANY SIDE EFFECTS before coming to a forum and cawing about how taking only 3 doses of .25mg finasteride has cured his hair loss!!!! Positively SHOCKING!!!! Isn't it even more shocking that the doctor gave him a prescription in the first place with the advised doseage of 1mg/day? That's just shocking!!!
Really.... are you guys for real? Do they even teach science and rational thinking in schools anymore?
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Originally Posted by skipstah70
Oh, I know.. What SHOCKING advice... that I tell him to STFU and take the prescribed dosage for a short period to EVALUATE ACCURATELY ANY SIDE EFFECTS before coming to a forum and cawing about how taking only 3 doses of .25mg finasteride has cured his hair loss!!!! Positively SHOCKING!!!! Isn't it even more shocking that the doctor gave him a prescription in the first place with the advised doseage of 1mg/day? That's just shocking!!!
Really.... are you guys for real? Do they even teach science and rational thinking in schools anymore?
You seem pretty certain on this drug's mode of action. You're doing better than most, if not all (Doctors included) in your understanding of this drug.
That's enough for me to call into question your motives for posting in my thread- Especially as your wording indicates to me you're having a bit of a tantrum.
It seems very apparent to me (and I'm not alone) there is still a lot we don't know about how this drug is effecting us- for better or worse. I'm inclined to think it is doing something negative to my genitals- but that's pure conjecture.
Perhaps it upsets you that thus far I am experiencing very good results (touch wood). There is plenty of evidence to suggest that a one-size-fits-all 1mg dose is going to be too little for some, just right for others, and far too much for yet another proportion of users.
I suspect, without doing any tests, that my endocrine system is more finely balanced than most other users (would explain my naturally depressive tendancy, mood swings etc)- perhaps this is coupled with my hair being extremely sensitive to DHT and therefore being more responsive to its suppression- Again this is unqualified conjecture on my part. Put simply, I don't know why this is happening to me. I was hoping to find an answer here.
I care about my dick and my brain and I was prudent in my intial dose. I did not expect results from the current levels of Finasteride I am taking. The dose of 0.25mgs twice a week was purely to test for side effects.
I won't spend too much time trying to convince you otherwise. I will spend it enjoying my current results instead!
The purpose of this post was to let other people who are considering a smaller dose know that 0.25mg twice a week has worked for me.
I will be posting immediately if things take a turn for the worse- and believe me, I'm prepared for that if/when it happens!
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Originally Posted by chrisis
This is absolutely shocking advice. Do not take Propecia at all if you suffered sides on 0.25mg every few days. You were cautious and discovered it's not good for you, so back the heck away from it. Anything else would be sheer lunacy.
He has no sides. He is completely delusional.
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Originally Posted by WarLord
He has no sides. He is completely delusional.
How is anyone supposed to take seriously the comments of a supposed War Lord?
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Originally Posted by Loomings
How is anyone supposed to take seriously the comments of a supposed War Lord?
Your hair loss stopped after two doses of 0.25 mg fin, sure. I am sorry, but I can't take anything of what you write seriously. Not since the moment you have written this nonsense.
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Guys,
Thanks for your input.
Skipstah, I do not believe my hairloss is stress-related. I do have a stressful job, but my pattern is following that of my father's who is now totally bald (wheels fell off for him well and truly at 30). I have his genes. I can track his progression through photos.
Khan, thanks mate. My balls feel better today. I know how much libido/erections depends on psychology- Fearing sex is not sexy and it's a downward spiral.
Chrisis, I've followed your posts in the past with keen interest. I know you have had some serious problems with this drug. I take that very seriously hence my low dose regime. I agree that upping my dose to 1mg to test for more severe side effects is a bad idea.
Have taken 3rd dose of 0.25mg this morning.
This is the first day where side effects seem to have abated. Pretty normal day, feel calm.....I would say I'm presently in a good mood.
Hair looking, feeling better at the front. This is subjective.
Hair has stopped falling out. This is objective.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but Finasteride has taken effect very quickly in at leats halting my progression (thinning). At present (fingers crossed) I think starting this treatment was an excellent choice.
Had sex with my girlfriend last night and definitely lost a bit of wood mid-insertion from time to time, but ultimately got the job done to normal standards and she was happy. I think my loss of wood was purely psychological, and not a result of finasteride. I think the less I think about it, the better I'll perform (easier said than done).
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No worries Loomings. By all means continue if you think your sides may be related to psychological factors, but I'd stick at the dose you're at unless you're absolutely sure about moving up. I think at max you could get away with 0.25mg daily. I don't really see the benefit in anyone being at 1mg, because for the minor comparative difference, the risks of upping dose just aren't worth it.
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