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  • Maradona
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 822

    #16
    Originally posted by chrisis
    Take a lot at the photo in my thumbnail. That's me 6 months ago. Since the shock loss of minoxidil, I have thicker and fuller hair now if anything. I'm not in any rush right now to make decisions that aren't thoroughly researched.
    Chrisis you got enough donor for 3 norwood 7s. Make sure you choose the right doctor, don't rush at all.

    You don't even need donor regeneration.

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    • amadeus
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 288

      #17
      If you're going to get a hair transplant you really have to go to a world class hair transplant surgeon that you can communicate well with and who will listen to your needs. Not only is Gho’s HST not a proven method, his aesthetics and density clearly can not compare to the masters. These guys that jump into to going with Gho based on a couple of celebrity patients and a lot of hype on message forums might regret it after the fact when they realize that their hair could have looked much better if they went to one of the top doctors.

      Take a look at these results.
      Hi All, Been away for some time and just wanted to ensure that people saw the difference that a FUE 2400+ can do after 6 months to a NW3... Please have a look at my before and after shots below... The before shot is of course without products and I was not wearing my hair like this - but wanted to show my hair loss. The


      You won’t see this type of work with Gho, it's just the way it is. So why take a chance on hearsay from a bunch of nuts on the web? It makes no sense at all. You only have one chance to get the best results possible from a hair transplant. Each mistake you make lessons your chances of looking your best. If Gho can not regenerate hair AND gives you an inferior hair transplant you lose on two levels. To pay to be a guinea pig is just plain stupid.

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      • JJJJrS
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 638

        #18
        Originally posted by amadeus
        If you're going to get a hair transplant you really have to go to a world class hair transplant surgeon that you can communicate well with and who will listen to your needs. Not only is Gho’s HST not a proven method, his aesthetics and density clearly can not compare to the masters. These guys that jump into to going with Gho based on a couple of celebrity patients and a lot of hype on message forums might regret it after the fact when they realize that their hair could have looked much better if they went to one of the top doctors.

        Take a look at these results.
        http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=9311
        Very nice result but is that the same doctor who took Gho to court and ended up having to publicly apologize and retract:



        Dr. Feriduni's Statement

        People who are interested in getting a hair transplant should proceed very cautiously. There is a lot of interesting evidence in Gho's favour, which I think you have been totally neglecting, and patients owe it to themselves to wait until the picture totally clears up.

        Most people don't have enough donor to adequately cover the large area needed to restore a patient at an advanced stage of hair loss with a standard hair transplant. Clinics often downplay the number of grafts you really need to accomplish this - it's a lot more then they let on. There is a reasonable possibility that a procedure that produces minimal scarring and donor regeneration exists and anybody considering FUT/FUE should keep that in mind.

        Edit - Make no mistake though. If HST is proven to work as claimed, I'd love to see it in the hands of a surgeon like Dr. Feriduni.

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        • chrisis
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1257

          #19
          That's a very humble and honest letter from Dr. Feriduni. I respect someone who can admit to making a mistake.

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          • amadeus
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 288

            #20
            You Gho guys are so very thick. There was never a court case! What on earth would they have taken Gho to court for, bullshitting people? What you are linking to is a retraction letter that was obviously written by Gho’s attorneys since the same exact letter was signed by multiple parties who apparently complained about Gho’s advertising to some state authority. They signed that document to avoid being sued by Gho. It happens all the time. There was never a court case this is just a retraction letter that these doctors and others were bullied into to signing. You people are ridiculous! Let’s see the court documents. Where are they? They do not exist.

            Originally posted by JJJJrS
            Very nice result but is that the same doctor who took Gho to court and ended up having to publicly apologize and retract:



            Dr. Feriduni's Statement

            People who are interested in getting a hair transplant should proceed very cautiously. There is a lot of interesting evidence in Gho's favour, which I think you have been totally neglecting, and patients owe it to themselves to wait until the picture totally clears up.

            Most people don't have enough donor to adequately cover the large area needed to restore a patient at an advanced stage of hair loss with a standard hair transplant. Clinics often downplay the number of grafts you really need to accomplish this - it's a lot more then they let on. There is a reasonable possibility that a procedure that produces minimal scarring and donor regeneration exists and anybody considering FUT/FUE should keep that in mind.

            Edit - Make no mistake though. If HST is proven to work as claimed, I'd love to see it in the hands of a surgeon like Dr. Feriduni.

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            • JJJJrS
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 638

              #21
              Originally posted by amadeus
              You Gho guys are so very thick. There was never a court case! What on earth would they have taken Gho to court for, bullshitting people? What you are linking to is a retraction letter that was obviously written by Gho’s attorneys since the same exact letter was signed by multiple parties who apparently complained about Gho’s advertising to some state authority. They signed that document to avoid being sued by Gho. It happens all the time. There was never a court case this is just a retraction letter that these doctors and others were bullied into to signing. You people are ridiculous! Let’s see the court documents. Where are they? They do not exist.
              From HASCI's website (all information can be found by clicking 'News' then 'File: Hair Stem Cell transplantation'):

              August 2010: HSI wins legal action with advertising code committee!

              On 15 July 2010, HSI successfully defended itself before the Advertising Code Committee (RCC) against a complaint which had been submitted by a number of hair transplantation clinics in regard to the claims by HSI. This complaint was the most recent episode in the series of attempts by those clinics to discredit HSI. The immediate cause for the complaint concerned the HSI-claim of ‘hair multiplication’ as a result of the Hair Stem Cell Transplantation ® patented by HSI. Supposedly, there was no evidence for the hair multiplication claim. The complainants were:

              Transhair BV
              Aesthetic Team BV
              Laser Surgery
              Prohairclinic
              Hairplus Medical Care

              After hearing both parties and experts, the Committee reached the judgment that HSI had substantiated the claims sufficiently and that the complaint was therefore ruled unfounded.
              The additional complaint that the well-known Dutch entertainer Gerard Joling had ‘linked his name’ to HSI was brushed aside as irrelevant.

              March 2011: board of appeal ruled in favour of HSI after legal action!

              Following the decision by the Advertising Code Committee on 10 August 2010, Transhair B.V., Aesthetic Team B.V., Laser Surgery, Prohairclinic and Hairplus Medical Care appealed that decision by the Board of Appeal. But, once again, the ruling was in favour of the Hair Science Institute. And this time the decision is binding. The apparent frustration of aforementioned clinics in regard to the success of our Hair Stem Cell Transplantation® is an on-going story of accusations. All grievances were thoroughly refuted by Prof. Neumann of the Erasmus Medisch Centrum (Erasmus Medical Centre) and Dr Coen Gho of HSI. In addition, HSI’s claim of ‘hair multiplication’ was supported by Prof. P. van Zuijlen, Burn Medicine VUMC and Dr C. Lafaire, Medical Department, Head of the Burns Unit (Antwerp, Belgium).

              The questions that, among others, Transhair has raised on its website in regard to our patented method have made it clear to us that there were good reasons for us to patent Hair Stem Cell Transplantation®.

              You will find the complete judgment by the Board of Appeal plus the judgment of the Advertising Code Committee of last year which initiated this new appeal in the pdf below.
              Pretty clear cut case to me. Spin it any way you want but that's Dr. Feriduni's name on that retraction and that speaks very loudly.

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              • amadeus
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 288

                #22
                There's no spin, there was never a court case. You just proved it with this post!! How can you not see that? There was a complaint filed with the advertising committee and the committee found it to be inaccurate. That’s it. There was a settlement and these guys had to sign a retraction. There was never a court case! So why do you keep posting that these guys took Gho to court? You are making yourself out to be extremely naive if not unintelligent. Can’t you read? It’s all there in black and white.


                Originally posted by JJJJrS
                From HASCI's website (all information can be found by clicking 'News' then 'File: Hair Stem Cell transplantation'):






                Pretty clear cut case to me. Spin it any way you want but that's Dr. Feriduni's name on that retraction and that speaks very loudly.

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                • JJJJrS
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 638

                  #23
                  Originally posted by amadeus
                  There's no spin, there was never a court case. You just proved it with this post!! How can you not see that? There was a complaint filed with the advertising committee and the committee found it to be inaccurate. That’s it. There was a settlement and these guys had to sign a retraction. There was never a court case! So why do you keep posting that these guys took Gho to court? You are making yourself out to be extremely naive if not unintelligent. Can’t you read? It’s all there in black and white.
                  This guy is talking about uncivilized discussion... Do you read the crap you post?

                  Please stop acting dense, everything is crystal clear for anybody who wants to read what was posted. You're more interested in supporting your agenda and arguing semantics.

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