Spexhair SMP into scar with Beauty Medical in Milan 19th July 2012

[topcat]

If there is anything that my experience has taught me it is never to jump into something that is new in hopes that it is a solution. Just read a post by someone who jumped into FUE as soon as a clinic here in the States starting performing it. It was big mistake and the poster stated he should have waited at least 10 years. That is exactly what I did because of my previous experiences I waited 10 years and just watched.

At a minimum most should wait at least 5 years until you see what happens to those that decide to jump in, regardless of its plucking, Acell or tattooing or anything else that is promoted as a solution.

I understand that at an average of 2000 Euros per procedure it only takes 1000 patients to step forward which is a very small number and you have a total of 2 million Euros being generated. Obviously it becomes an emotional issue with these types of numbers and especially with its potential of recurring income which is akin to having a goose that lays golden eggs but if you look at history it is best to just watch.

[Stevie R]

It was nice talking to ya today Spex, I hope this SMP thing is safe and gets dudes squared away with their scar problems. However, I guess I will have to just have to ride in the back seat for a bit and see how things progress cause I still am not 100% convinced...time will tell though that'f for sure.

[topcat]

Spex it is my understanding that the titanium and iron oxides do not just disappear but have to go somewhere. Most likely building up in the lymph nodes do you believe this to be true or false? Should caution be advised?

[Spex]

Stevie, It was nice to speak to you also. Be patient with all your ventures based on the fact your scar is more of a phycological battle rather than a physical one. Your scar is very small - you are lucky! Its all relative however!

I think your plan to BHT or FUE into it initially is wise to try break it down and then as i explained given that realistic time scale of 18 months minimum even off the first session and as i recommended make sure its a test session too especially with BHT. Keep your expectations in check and be aware yield can be lower transplanting into scars.

You have a journey ahead of you with transplanting into the scar as your first mission then by that time which is realistically 2-3 years temporary SMP will have a lot more to show you in terms of results and patient opinions. Try not rush anything though brutha. And keep expectations in check! I know you were stung and didnt due your due diligence initially with your first HT - so do it now!

Topcat, Hi and hope you are well. Here is the reply i just recieved from Milena for you - she is in transit to NYC as will also be in a couple of hours. I hope this helps.

No.
Non ostruiscono i linfonodi.
I pigmenti non sono tossici!!
Vengono "mangiati" dai macrofagi ed eliminati col sistema urinario come qualsiasi scoria/ corpo estraneo.



I hope you guys all appreciate and understand but if not allow me to try explain that there is a great deal of difficulty with the communication barrier that exists here as Milena doesnt speak a word of English, only Italian. This isnt helping matters, so please be patient and understand that given time we will all know a lot more as we are looking into ways to resolve the communication barrier.

Best
Spex

[topcat]

Are you saying that the pigment does not accumulate in the lymph nodes?

What does Spencer Kobren think about all of this or is that what the meeting in September will be about? Will he be considering tattooing his own head?

[Spex]

Topcat,

I have no idea. Milena's direct reply to your previous question.

In English :

No.
Do not block the lymph nodes.
The pigments are non-toxic!
Are "eaten" by macrophages and eliminated by the urinary system like any slag / foreign body.


I have not spoken to Spencer since we did the live interview. He is interested to see how things progress based on the meetings with Dr Hasson/Jotronic/Dr Feller/Dr Lindsey as he values their opinions. I have no idea if this is something he wants to do himself - Have you considered calling the show and speaking to him ? Why dont you.

The meeting in september is nothing to do with SMP - its to do with interviews for a potential documentary on hair loss /Hair transplants.

[sp8rky]

Google translate maybe getting it slightly wrong though.

[Kiwi]

Your scar is very small - you are lucky! Its all relative however!

I think your plan to BHT or FUE into it initially is wise to try break it down and then as i explained given that realistic time scale of 18 months minimum even off the first session and as i recommended make sure its a test session too especially with BHT. Keep your expectations in check and be aware yield can be lower transplanting into scars.

I would not waste more hairs via FUE by putting them into a scar! If you're determined to transplant hair into a scar use your body hair. I agree with spex about testing with BHT too.... if it doesnt work you've wasted nothing but THOUSANDS of dollars. As opposed to precious FUE donor hair.

I've got a stupid scar too.

I wish I just shaved my head.

But I didn't. The only logical non wasteful and affordable option for people like us (especially if you get propecia sides) is tattoo / maybe fraxel scar repair first... and then wait out till aderans or histogen hit the market.

The last 2 years have flown by in all respects apart from my hair loss.

You can do it!!!

[topcat]

It’s not iron poisoning that’s the problem. Excess iron in the systems leads to cancer and since this is not a permanent tattoo it could very well be even more problematic.

But hey if someone wants to tattoo their head more power to you.

It will be interesting to watch.

[topcat]

The part about the iron oxides being removed through urine doesn't make much sense to me as iron builds up in the blood, organs and tissues. Maybe that part can be better explained